Yeah, on first look, why report them.

On second thought, report them because the longer they play, the more they can improve.

Relevant:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...u-bots-756054/

and winnings from ladders and other stuff.

Not worthwhile detection? B00 has still played every $10 & $20 SNG since I started this post, all through the night again, that was already continuing on from an already impressive 12 hour breakless session. Maintaining that steady 3 seconds per play momentum.

It's strange how Ipoker don't have a representative on here being the largest poker network, you'd think they don't care.

boycott the filthy cheat haven

I quit when they changed from delt to contributed and left the rb requirements the same ..wtf

Here is part of T&C from iPoker site.

"10.1.1.4 in games offered via the Website which benefit from more players or greater liquidity we may deploy electronic players (known as robots, and whose usernames will be "bot") who are pre programmed to play and join in with the game in order to assist the liquidity or the number of players gaming"

The bot has a -1% roi which means it is beating the rake comfortably, therefore they are significantly better than your average player. They are taking money out of the games with good rb deals. This is a bad player to have in any game.

The only players you truly want to keep in the games are the ones losing before rake is taken, they are contributing to the profits of other players playing the game.

WHAT ??

What a load of absolute nonsense.

They are admitting they use bots.

Although, it would appear from this, that the usernames of iPoker's own bots would contain the word 'bot,' so I don't think the one's mentioned above are connected to iPoker.

Stop being a drama queen. If you read through every T&C for poker rooms or anything else and you will find all sorts of stuff that seems crazy because they are there to give the places protection for anything they can think of at the time.

Every online casino has in their terms a basic clause that they have the right to basically do what they want, especially when it comes to bonuses.

The OP has a legitimate issue and it's one I wrote about a while ago when the various rooms rake races had some players (whether live or bots) folding every hand in full ring PL Omaha games which messed up the actual games quite a bit.

There have also been other threads about bots on ipoker.


In the end it is up to the player to decide if they want to play on a site that is lax on bots (and it seems fairly obvious the ones in this case are likely bots), and it is perfectly valid to write them and tell them you are moving elsewhere if they do not change their policies on how they handle bots.

That's a standard business decision any customer can make, but the reality is that if the rooms allow for bots or will not go after bots for whatever reason that is a game condition that either has to be accepted or rejected by the players as there is no golden rule that requires a network to go after bots.

Make the public aware of these issues as well (much like what happened with AP/UB and other sites), and they can choose where they want to play based on that information, and if enough leave ipoker due to lax treatment of bots then they have to change how they do business or else suffer.

If the marketplace does not care in general about these bots then the business reality is ipoker can choose whether to do anything they like and then players are the ones that have to decide what to do.

I personally left ipoker due to their software and how they handled the rake race fold bots early in 2009, and others can always make that choice as well.

I think that T&C quote is left over from old times and not actually used in practice.

When I played on the ipoker skin, Poker 770, I reported Jhunnius2 as a bot for exactly the same reasons - playing for long periods without taking a break, multitabling but never timing out on a decision etc. After nearly 24 hours I got this reply:

"In reply to your message we assure you that the use of cheating software is not possible on Poker770 and that all the actions at the table behind the player avatars are human".

It was painfully obvious that the content of my email had been ignored. That was one of many reasons why I no longer play there.

jhunnius2 is about a break even "player". If a bot, then it is taking money through rakeback etc and reducing others' ROIs. Each person has to make their own decision about whether to play on ipoker in these circumstances.

I've had it confirmed by Betfred staff that bots are indeed illegal on their site.

unless they are being used by the site!!

The last chart is pretty impressive, if that indeed is a bot.

Unless you plan to file a police report of some kind and press criminal charges, the conditions of my original post still apply.

If the ipoker skins do not act against bots (whether they violate their rules or not - bots are not "illegal"), then it is up to the customer to decide if that is a reason to switch sites and then act on this belief accordingly.


That's the power of the marketplace.