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Old 06-05-2016, 03:30 AM   #1
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IDN Poker network

Anyone played on this IDN network, has quite alot of skins.
Claims that there are upwards of 5000 players online at times.
Their main skin seems to be shenpoker.com

http://www.shenpoker.com/index.php
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:16 PM   #2
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Re: IDN Poker network

Is that Chinese? I've never heard of it, and I don't see it listed on Pokerscout's massive list of sites/networks.
We're more Euro/Americas-centric in BQ, but maybe there's someone in the far east that can help you.
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Old 06-06-2016, 06:06 AM   #3
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Yeah think it's an Indonesian site all of their skins are geared towards an asian market. They claim they aren't tracked by pokerskout but if they were they'd be in the top 3.
What do you think about hudless asian sites?
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Old 06-06-2016, 11:25 AM   #4
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What do you think about hudless asian sites?
Being HUD free doesn't worry me. I'd be more concerned with the ability to get money on and off the site easily. I wouldn't put money on a site if it wasn't clear how payments are processed, or if I had fears about incoming legislation/regulation or the site shutting down and taking all your money.
There have been literally thousands of sites/skins that have popped up over the years. Most of them went busto, and quite a lot took their customers' money with them. (Everyone knows about the big/popular sites that got shut down for one reason or another, but there have been tons of failed sites that also disappeared). For all I know, that particular network/skin IS a solid business, with decent traffic, software, customer support etc. But I couldn't immediately find any independent English language feedback/testimonials about it, so I wouldn't consider it for myself. There are plenty of other "trusted" brand names I would look at first. I think you need to find some other people in that locality, or keep googling and see what you can find out.
The Asian poker market is supposedly massive, but it's largely hidden from (or completely unavailable to) potential customers in the Western hemisphere.
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Old 01-20-2017, 08:46 AM   #5
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idn now tracked on pokerscout; being the the largest network right now!
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Old 01-21-2017, 02:48 PM   #6
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idn now tracked on pokerscout; being the the largest network right now!
Just saw this and was brought to this thread upon search, wtf network is this?
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Old 01-26-2017, 09:14 PM   #7
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wonder if they can really have that amount of players when no one seems to have heard of them...... :/
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Old 01-27-2017, 04:12 AM   #8
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Re: IDN Poker network

Website looks quite sleek and is in English. Software kind of looks pretty generic, I mainly play on Stars and this is how I usually picture 'other' sites looking.

I have not played on this site, just linking some stuff over.

From http://www.idnplay.com/idnpoker

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IDNPoker utilizes the latest technology to provide outstanding online gaming experience. With over 200,000 monthly active players and more than 100 million users with all our partners, IDNPoker is considered as the largest poker network exclusively for Asian players. IDNPoker also features a variety of other games in addition to poker and supports multi-currency platform for convenient transactions.
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IDNPlay is a leading B2B provider of poker gaming systems in Asia. Armed with passion and determination, the group began to conceptualize and develop an online gaming platform that will later on dominate the Eastern poker scene. The group has eventually evolved into a multinational company working with numerous partners all over Asia to advance the industry of online gaming in the largest continent in the world.
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Old 01-27-2017, 12:28 PM   #9
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Anyone played on this IDN network, has quite alot of skins.
Claims that there are upwards of 5000 players online at times.
Their main skin seems to be shenpoker.com

http://www.shenpoker.com/index.php
Thanks for sharing. I think some players will be enjoyed.
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Old 01-27-2017, 07:30 PM   #10
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#AsianPokerBoom

I wonder if it will ever allow Western players.
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Old 01-27-2017, 10:32 PM   #11
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#AsianPokerBoom

I wonder if it will ever allow Western players.
Are Eastern Euro's allowed?
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Old 01-27-2017, 11:20 PM   #12
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#AsianPokerBoom

I wonder if it will ever allow Western players.
no western players allowed ? makes their numbers even more impressive :O
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:54 AM   #13
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Did anyone 'western' try to play on this network? Is the western ban strict?
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:00 AM   #14
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Couldn't you open an account/load the client with a VPN? Then deposit money with Skrill or something location independent?

Obviously if you get caught your account is going to be deleted along with you BR.

Just thinking out loud.
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Old 03-03-2017, 01:27 AM   #15
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I just posted review @ Pokerscout to warn everyone.
First of all i'm reg of mid-highstakes and I've been playing IDNPoker for like 24 hours and I was waiting on NL1600 table for players and just joined one player called C4R4SHOTS, he won me 20 out of 20 hands of 8 of them were coolers in 3 minuts lost 2.5k 8 buy in of 20bb.

I had two times AA he raise flop 2 times with top pair dobles turn when All in flop 1 of em other I call letting him bluff and J turn obv (trips)

3 times trips over trips

1 time 2nd nuts flush vs nuts

1 time board 96767 I had 65 he had 97 over full.

You believe this? loose 20 out of 20 hands and 8 coolers in 3 min vs 100-x fish?

I've never had this feeling been playing poker for 6 years professionally i'm reg NL400-2000 and I just wanted to try this site and I see all players limping so so many fish but is like the site always puts u in the spot to rake big all the time coolers, I think that guy was with a partner knowing my cards and playing accordinly and putting the board perfect always to win, there's no way a Fish 100-x vpip can win 20 out of 20 hands in HU and crack me all top range.

Be carefull I wont recommend anyone play that site, also the software is very bad, no hud, no rebuy no preflop or postflop betting when u are stacked off u are kicked of the table and u need to rejoin and during that time another guy can steal ur seat, all players play 5-10-20bb and they can rejoin at any time with 20bb. Worst site ever rigged.
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Old 03-03-2017, 01:56 AM   #16
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I just posted review @ Pokerscout to warn everyone.
First of all i'm reg of mid-highstakes and I've been playing IDNPoker for like 24 hours and I was waiting on NL1600 table for players and just joined one player called C4R4SHOTS, he won me 20 out of 20 hands of 8 of them were coolers in 3 minuts lost 2.5k 8 buy in of 20bb.

I had two times AA he raise flop 2 times with top pair dobles turn when All in flop 1 of em other I call letting him bluff and J turn obv (trips)

3 times trips over trips

1 time 2nd nuts flush vs nuts

1 time board 96767 I had 65 he had 97 over full.

You believe this? loose 20 out of 20 hands and 8 coolers in 3 min vs 100-x fish?

I've never had this feeling been playing poker for 6 years professionally i'm reg NL400-2000 and I just wanted to try this site and I see all players limping so so many fish but is like the site always puts u in the spot to rake big all the time coolers, I think that guy was with a partner knowing my cards and playing accordinly and putting the board perfect always to win, there's no way a Fish 100-x vpip can win 20 out of 20 hands in HU and crack me all top range.

Be carefull I wont recommend anyone play that site, also the software is very bad, no hud, no rebuy no preflop or postflop betting when u are stacked off u are kicked of the table and u need to rejoin and during that time another guy can steal ur seat, all players play 5-10-20bb and they can rejoin at any time with 20bb. Worst site ever rigged.
nothing about your post makes sense. its the same rigtard nonsense that has been posted thousands of times before about every single site (especially if you read the site reviews on pokerscout)

0 chance your a reg if you are complaining about losing with AA due to get sucked out on, oh wow it happened twice? must be rigged
fish that play 100% of hands are going to go on heaters just like anyone else and win 20 hands in a row. this happens all the time if you actually play real volume like you claim you do.
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Old 03-03-2017, 02:02 AM   #17
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nothing about your post makes sense. its the same rigtard nonsense that has been posted thousands of times before about every single site (especially if you read the site reviews on pokerscout)

0 chance your a reg if you are complaining about losing with AA due to get sucked out on, oh wow it happened twice? must be rigged
fish that play 100% of hands are going to go on heaters just like anyone else and win 20 hands in a row. this happens all the time if you actually play real volume like you claim you do.
ROFL, most of mid-highstakes players know me anyways don't wanna argue with some1 I leave it there if u want to play up to you, just I can tell you my feeling of playing there 500 hands, I am reg mid-highstakes 7bb winrate 1.5M hands bro... just wanted to warn people didn't want to fight or proof anything.. u think that can happen vs 100-x on HU? 8 coolers in 20 hands and loose 19 of 20 hands( coz 1 i folded preflop xD )? I don't buy it bro. Also shady hands happened before.. anyways every1's warned, just saw in pokerscout antoher guy warned also, I tested it and for me it's rigged, I played lifetime on 10-15 poker sites and this is my first feeling ever.. anyways have a nice day.
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Old 03-03-2017, 02:09 AM   #18
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ROFL, most of mid-highstakes players know me anyways don't wanna argue with some1 I leave it there if u want to play up to you, just I can tell you my feeling of playing there 500 hands, I am reg mid-highstakes 7bb winrate 1.5M hands bro... just wanted to warn people didn't want to fight or proof anything.. u think that can happen vs 100-x on HU? 8 coolers in 20 hands and loose 19 of 20 hands( coz 1 i folded preflop xD )? I don't buy it bro. Also shady hands happened before.. anyways every1's warned, just saw in pokerscout antoher guy warned also, I tested it and for me it's rigged, I played lifetime on 10-15 poker sites and this is my first feeling ever.. anyways have a nice day.
the only way anything you said could be true is you are claiming that the player you played HU against is a super super user. not only can he see your cards and know the cards that are going to come out, but can also control the rng to decide which cards he and you were dealt, and can control the flop turn and river. is that your claim? would be the first time ever on any site, not saying its impossible but thats a bold claim your making.
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Old 03-03-2017, 02:11 AM   #19
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the only way anything you said could be true is you are claiming that the player your played HU against is a super super user. not only can he see your cards and know the cards that are going to come out, but can also control the rng to decide which cards he and you were dealt, and can control the flop turn and river. is that your claim? would be the first time ever on any site, not saying its impossible but thats a bold claim your making.
Well I saw what they did on DBG Dollaro they can see ur cards and that guy knew what to do all the time seemed like he could have a partner idk, very shady this sites. Warning everyone, don't wanna loose more time into this I knew where I was going to play I took the risk. Have a nice day.
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Old 03-03-2017, 02:13 AM   #20
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Well I saw what they did on DBG Dollaro they can see ur cards and that guy knew what to do all the time seemed like he could have a partner idk, very shady this sites. Warning everyone, don't wanna loose more time into this I knew where I was going to play I took the risk. Have a nice day.
yes in a typical super user setup they can see your cards and limp call you down with crap when they can see you are bluffing like calling you allin with 6 high when you have 5 high. losing with aa vs tjo that makes trips on the turn is not superusing thats what we call in poker a suckout.
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Old 03-06-2017, 01:44 AM   #21
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Has anyone else had the chance to play on this site?
It appears you can only 1 table , they also have a product where a live dealer deals you the cards while playing online. What does anyone think of this- seems it just slows down the game. Will fish like this?
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Old 03-06-2017, 03:51 AM   #22
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game is ****ty client is slow. hard to get money on and off the site. id stay away
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Old 03-11-2017, 08:52 AM   #23
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I agree with onez69.

I'm also playing online poker for years, I am used to variance and luck, so I don't care much about bad beat/suck out. However, what happens here is not normal. The rate of cooler/bad beat is absurd. But it only happens at the highest table ($5/10 to $20/40).

Watch these videos and tell me if I am wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBN_SiCA6cY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EruVUUFq4UI (I put the timeline in the description)
The fish/super user has 100% VPIP, will call any raise up to any amount including all in with any hands. And he wins 9 times out of 10. Look at the amount of coolers. And it happens the whole night, these 2 videos are just an example, I start recording after playing and losing a bunch against him. The 2 players in the video (camap and KRR) are not me, so it happens to everyone. Me and these 2 players are some of the best in the network, and we all totally lose to this megafish successively in the same night? Please.

And notice when he does weird things like checking back top pair 3 streets on safe board, checking back the nut flush or full house on the river. Does any normal player make play like that? He also just left mid-hand many times, probably when he knows he cannot beat his opponent's hand.

Here are the 10 all-ins that happen preflop in these 2 videos, along with the percentage to win. Do you know how hard it is to win 9 times out of 10?
A9 < AQ 74%
A8s < 54o 37%
AKo < Q2o 31%
K9o < 83s 37%
66 < K6 31%
AT > AKs 75%
A8s < A7s 36%
55 < 92o 30%
K9o < 92o 23%
A5o < 84s 40%

Here is another video of that super user playing 6-max:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjJGDIVSK04&t=4s
Same playstyle (100% VPIP in 6-max, calling any amount with any hands preflop), and proceed to own everyone at the table. Read the description for more details.

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Old 03-11-2017, 11:14 AM   #24
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...checking back the nut flush or full house on the river. Does any normal player make play like that?
I don't have time to look at the whole video, but I saw those two hands, and the one where he got J4o in pre-flop and "accidentally" won. Maybe I'm mistaken, but from that I would assume Anj is chip-dumping to the other player. i.e. he's trying to lose.
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Old 03-11-2017, 11:24 AM   #25
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the only way anything you said could be true is you are claiming that the player you played HU against is a super super user. not only can he see your cards and know the cards that are going to come out, but can also control the rng to decide which cards he and you were dealt, and can control the flop turn and river. is that your claim? would be the first time ever on any site, not saying its impossible but thats a bold claim your making.
This is not so bold claim. There wasn't any evidence of superusers before UB/AP scandal and the whole idea of superusers got a lot of resistance before it was proved.

Don't you think it is more likely to get cheated on these non-established asian networks compared to Stars, 888 etc?

It doesn't even have to be sites staff that is cheating you... bad shuffling algos can be cracked and in this case it's possible to know every hand and board run out.
It is pretty hard to find out how secure their RNG is before it's too late. Check the link below so you get the idea.

http://www.developer.com/tech/articl...e-Security.htm
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