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Old 07-23-2009, 01:53 AM   #31
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Re: Pitbull Poker has superusers

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ok, let's see if i have this correct:



some of you are million dollar winners.



yet you expect the site to do it? the format of the HH was set before you deposited. if you did not like it, you should not have played. the onus is on you and your millionaire buddies to plug in the info.

but wait, you don't even have to, because along comes suzzer99 who is respected and known to be super competent. she says the task is not that daunting.



ok, cool, you agree that paying for 10 hours is well worth it. i mean, you are about to blow open a new superuser case, so 10 hours is a small price to pay, right?



suzzer quotes you a VERY reasonable price considering that many programmers won't even read your spec sheet for this tiny job.



you reply, Heh, i'll wait for pitbull. so now you are waiting for a site that has not given you what you want since december, yet there is someone here that can have you answers by the weekend. why would you think pitbull will be more helpful?!? you have come across as an extortionist, plain and simple. he has offered 100% TRANSPARENCY, BUT YOU DON'T LIKE THE FORMAT OF THE HH??

do you realize how utterly stupid you look? also, imho, you have made dave seem reasonable and competent. most of the sites would ban you after your first spam/threat to them. i find it an absolute ****** riot that you claim to have millionaires in your group of victims, yet between all of you you would rather wait months and months more while pitbull restructures to find out if they are going to even help at all? this notion alone makes your claims 100% redonkulous.






yes it is suzzer, yes it is.



@ all. this sounds like a losing player with a hunch. he has been beaten down silly at this site and he screams superuser? i find OP to be one of the biggest kooks to post in the zoo in ages. i really don't think OP knows how ridiculous this thread is, and how childish his behaivor and communications have been.

@ op, i can ASSURE you that if the board thought for one second that there was something fishy here, this thread would have blown up like every PROVEN major scandal has. there are zero respected, established posters on yout side itt. it is not because they don't care about superusers, it is because your op and subsequent statements have zero credibility based on what you have presented here.
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This is one of the best response I have seen to a riggtard post
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Old 07-23-2009, 02:39 AM   #32
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Re: Pitbull Poker has superusers

pigbot certainly sounds like a different writer, and the similarity of his story makes it seems there's a decent chance this could be legit.

chester what do you hope to determine from 1000 HHs? Have you determined that's enough to do some kind of statistical analysis? I don't play on Pitbull obv. But I guess it's worth it to me to spend some time on this for the overall health of online poker. But I want to know you have a real plan as to what you are planning to do with the HHs and what you hope to prove with them. If I spend 10 hours scraping the HHs and you sit on your hands, which is what happens about 99% of the time in these cases, that would be a little frustrating.
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:32 AM   #33
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Re: Pitbull Poker has superusers

izzabot,
this thread IS d blowup.
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Old 07-23-2009, 06:58 AM   #34
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Re: Pitbull Poker has superusers

So where's that ppdave guy, I'm sure he can straighten this whole thing out like he usually does.



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Old 07-23-2009, 07:05 AM   #35
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izzabot,
this thread IS d blowup.

wot?

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Old 07-23-2009, 07:08 AM   #36
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Re: Pitbull Poker has superusers

this industry is so unregulated and it really is very worrisome. I for one have always said that how can a site owner play on his own site. Yet, you have lederer,ivey,harmon to name a few doing this and mark seif was doing it on absolute poker.
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Old 07-23-2009, 07:14 AM   #37
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So where's that ppdave guy, I'm sure he can straighten this whole thing out like he usually does.



I had never even heard of Pitbull before this thread. I know nothing about them. However, if I were the Pitbull guy I would never even consider engaging these flakes in further conversation. He apparently has been talking to them and defending his stance since December, yet all the OP does is continue to threat and extort. If I were the owner of Pitbull and this Dave guy continued responding, I would fire him immediately. Responding to baseless crap like this is beneath any reputable company. Pitbull has stated over and over and over that this group is making baseless claims. Now the group, which includes players making 7 figures over the last 7 years suddenly can't afford to pay an analyst to help them with their hunch. That's really all this is. A hunch by a group of people that have simply been schooled and don't like it.

Also, moderator's should change the title to read "I suspect superusers at Pitbull". The current title suggests there is some kind of proof itt, and that's completely laughable. The only proof I see is that OP is a lazy, cheap, sky is falling whiner. His statements are slanderous IMO.
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Old 07-23-2009, 07:21 AM   #38
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Chester,

I just erased a long post. I'm gonna keep it VERY simple. Two things, I respect you as a poster and a player. With that said, You ABSOLUTELY need to do some labor intensive work on this. I am sure if even hand by hand once you got to about 100-200 hands you would then know if this is even worth following up.

I also have to agree that you are way out of line with the way you are bringing this to pit bull,Dave,and these forums. I give Dave a lot of credit for keeping his composure.


Again, get started....NOW. You and your thirty other players have had over a half year to look at these hands. Even if you guys only looked at one hand each for everyday since you have brought this issue, you would have had way more then the simple 1000 you are looking for.
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Old 07-23-2009, 07:24 AM   #39
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Chester and friends,

You need to seriously regroup and get your **** together. This is an epic FAIL otherwise.

I'm really having trouble grasping the fact that you thought you could bring such complete **** to these forums. Also, start acting professional, your tone is horrid at the moment.

EDIT: I also agree with the poster above 100%. You absolutely need to regroup and get off your lazy ass. **** this makes me mad chester, cause I actually liked you as a poster.

EDIT#2: The other pit bull thread is starting to look more and more like you have been ****ing with Dave the whole time. I am a full time FTP player, I only wish a site that has to be 10 times or more bigger then pitbull had half the CS he has been delivering in that thread. You really need to stop with the nonsense and get your **** together. As of now your credibility went from high to almost nil.

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Old 07-23-2009, 08:20 AM   #40
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I played at Pitbull late last year and early this year. I played 2.5-5 to 10-20 NL, but mostly I played the 5-10 NL game.
The following things I found suspicious at pitbull.
There were several players that all played a very the same style. Its a difficult style to describe, but basically they all kept the pot small at all times by min rzing pf and betting small %'s of the pot later on. I didnt think much of it at first but after I began to get suspicious when there were so many different guys that played the same. In addition they would all make small donk bets oop when I was weak. They never made these bets when I was strong. Also I could never or rarely get them to call a big bet with the worse hand on the river.

Something was just not right on PB. I've been a pro for over 10 years and won lots on many different sites. I had never played players with this horrible style and not be able to beat them.
Another thing I found odd on PB was my ability to get a game so easy. I often would open a 5-10 NL table and wait. On very small sites you often wait a long time for someone to sit down with you. Yet at PB someone would almost always sit with me within 5 minutes. The same was true of 10-20NL. Now this is a very small site that rarely had big games going so I found this odd also. When these players sat down they always played the same style and I never beat them.

Ive never thought I was being cheated on any other site. I am 99% sure Pitbull poker had cheaters when I was playing there.

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I admit, I'm a paranoid guy when it comes to online poker, especially after the UB Scandal, but Pitbull took the cake for me.

I signed up with them and it was a hassle from Day 1 to get them to follow-through with promises, including a bonus that was advertised differently than what it ended up being. When I called customer service, I got some guy who pretty much told me "too bad, nothing we can do". In fact, that seems to be their customer service MO. Can't produce HH's, which is complete insanity. they can't credit you the true bonus they advertised, which is BS. Can't do crap.

Anyway, I was playing there for about two weeks and found that the traffic was just really poor, but there was suspect play. I was up about $250 playing $1/$2 when I started playing against a number of players who made REALLY suspicious plays. I took note but didn't think more of it. Then, I log on one day and am playing and all of a sudden, I see seat 6 dealt 10-2. The only reason I remember is thinking that they had some sort of promotion for getting a doyle Brunson Strange that I could see an opponents cards - could they see mine as well?

About a week later, I'm playing $1/$2 NL and I have about $160 in front of me and the following hand came up:

Hero has 2-5o -

Raises to $12. Gets 2 callers. Flop comes Jh-10s-10c
Hero bets $24. SB folds. Other player calls.
turn is Kc.

Hero checks. Other player checks.

River is 8h.

Hero bets $75. Call.

Player 2 turns up 2-6.

There were three hands he could possibly beat.

Now, we can debate that I made a really poor play there, but you absolutely cannot call a $75 raise there without having something more than 6 high.

I left the table and cashed out the $60 I had left in my account that night and never logged on again.
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:21 AM   #41
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Re: I suspect Pitbull Poker has superusers!

And by the way, I haven't made 7 figures playing online
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:23 AM   #42
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Hero has 2-5o -

Raises to $12. Gets 2 callers. Flop comes Jh-10s-10c
Hero bets $24. SB folds. Other player calls.
turn is Kc.

Hero checks. Other player checks.

River is 8h.

Hero bets $75. Call.

Player 2 turns up 2-6.

There were three hands he could possibly beat.
Definitely a superuser.

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Old 07-23-2009, 09:36 AM   #43
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Definitely a superuser.
What actually is idiotic to me is that the guy didn't raise all-in. He'd know I couldn't have called and his hand would never have become visible.
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:48 AM   #44
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What actually is idiotic to me is that the guy didn't raise all-in. He'd know I couldn't have called and his hand would never have become visible.
You do realize that 62o doesn't beat 52o on a JTTK8 board?

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Old 07-23-2009, 09:58 AM   #45
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You do realize that 62o doesn't beat 52o on a JTTK8 board?
not on pitbull apparently. lol, the guy takes the time to write up several paragraphs of BS and screws up that; level?
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