So a $20k downswing in 2500 hands = omg you guys, totally rigged but that $50k spike in your first 2500 hands was pure skill.

Looks like your run good ran out.

If all Amaya had to do was cheat, there would be no need for lol-chest rewards.

-logic

Also cashing out 100k might not be the best BR management, if you intended on playing the same stakes that got you +140k...

There is about 40k downswing on cash-games and another 40k in tournament if we will count from the moment of cashouts.

About $50k spike in my first 2500 hands... well, if that was not skill, than my suspicions only increase. Because then I was a beginner in that game. And now I constantly see like new weak players come and my chips go to them.

If the fish will win at least 10-15% more often, then PS will receive twice as much rake.

-mathematics.


I have no problems with cashouts or deposits, but I prefer to keep my money in my pocket

So if u run reports on hem2 and the odds on 1 site are less then on every other site u ever played on over the years, what do we say about that 1 site ? Just bad luck ? Just great luck for 14 years on other sites? What could it be?

Until you explain precisely what "the odds on 1 site are less then on every other site" means, no one could possibly answer.

Lets suppose that someone can affect the fact that out of 100 pure coin flips REGULAR (taking money out of the system, violating this ecological balance) against the FISH (very welcome guy for the system) will not win on average 50 times like it should be, but 47-48...

1. The Ugly Regular will win and withdraw less money from the system. There will be more money left in the system that will be razed into rake

2. Blessed Fish will play longer than it could normally. Fish will generate more rake for the system and longer enjoying the game. That in the end will increase the likelihood of the next deposit from the fish - one of the main goal of the system.

3. Technically, this is very easy to do. Nothing personal. The system is not set up to harm or do well to someone specific.
There is a history of deposits and caches for each player. For example, YOU (total withdrawn from the system 200k) were in a situation of a pure coin flip against the FISH (summarily brought to the system 50k).
And here for the system is beneficial to slightly increase the probability of winning a fish. Just 52/48 instead of the normal 50/50. A regular for life will not collect enough hands played against a specific fish to prove something. And if he does, then dozens of sofa writers will immediately write in the subject: "that you are crying?", "you are already winning a lot", and "it's all just a downswing".

As a result, all the goals of the system are achieved.
Receipts from rake became twice as much.
Care for poker ecology at a height.
The company's shares are growing.
The new executive director is doing a good job.

I'm not saying that everything is just like that.
And no one can prove anything.
But all these incredible coincidences (cashout --> downswing) do not add to me a belief in the purity of the game.

By the way
2 years ago, my friend, a beginner who only knew the rules of Hold'em, asked me to help open an account on the PS.
I helped him. And on the same evening we drinking some beer and he won the Big 55, about 15k.

Create a new account, play like a "Blessed Fish," and exploit the rig and win a lot of large pot coin flips. Easy money as long your beliefs are valid. Stop hating money so much.

You also could prove your silly 52/48 on coin flip all-in belief with a detailed study to show how off (if at all) in number of standard deviations your all-in results are (can break it up in percentile ranges as well). People do these studies all the time, and the rig you propose would be caught immediately, especially when one "Ungly Regular" shares his data and others then see if it shows in their HHs as well.

All the best.

I did not come up with this theory. I heard this many times from many regulars.
I can only confirm that in my case this is quite appropriate.

The only difference between us is that I'm not afraid of appearing ridiculous to say this.

We know.

How does your theory handle cases of people who are long term winners who make regular cashouts?

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Perhaps most of them just do not notice it. Last year, he won 250k, and in the next year - 200k. Well, he thinks, downswing... it's happenes... And he continues to play, while he can still win something

Sure, but to also make it undetectable is damn near impossible. If the extra profit to the site is significant and worth doing, the skew to the random deal is also equally significant. People who are good at math and statistics have been looking for it for years, and so far not a single sample showing anything manipulated. This thread has 80K posts, and none of them have demonstrated an unfair deal yet. It's all feelings and speculations driven by humans' well-known inability to recognize randomness without using computer analysis. And when it is used, the supposed bias disappears. Every time.

Yes but people have shown it. And the answers are always the same
1. U dont have a big enough sample size
2. The margins that are not want they should be fall into a normal distribution off those numbers.
So what does someone have to do to prove it?

Many players do have sufficient sample sizes and have evaluated them to be fair. And much larger samples containing many players' hands have been analysed as well.

And when the numbers are off they still day it's fair. How far off does it have to be to be considered unfair ?

If it's more than 21 degrees off, most knowledgeable players would agree that something smells in the State of Denmark.

Name something specific that we can all test our own DBs for. (Not some silly, "If I go AI with a draw to a Q-high flush, someone always beats me with A high.")

He already said earlier that quads happen at an impossibly infrequent rate live based on his memory, which if accurate would prove that all the live poker he played was rigged. However, he does not remember what he said often times earlier on the same day in this thread, so that may not be complete proof. He probably forgot that he was getting excited about that fake RnG conference the other person said to troll him for instance since that was all the way back in August, and now we are in September.

Also, when I was in Denmark I did not notice any odd aroma, but granted it was below 21 degrees centigrade.

I think we all agree that offline poker is rigged, ,
but I'm hoping he'll think of a new rig because of something that happened to him today. Like, every time he receives 33 and goes AI pf, someone beats him on the river; or whatever.

Then we can try to persuade him, with our own amalgamated stats, that it was a one-off, instead of bullying him like a gang of lemmings.

Ok. So run this then in your database. See how often a player raises and either the small blind or the big blind gets an above average hand on that hand. The problem most of u have is u think I think some rig is designed to beat me. The rugs I talk about have nothing to do with losing or winning a particular hand. Most of the things I am concerned about are the preflop hand set ups. The oitcomes in an of themselves are not that big an issue. I am sure axes win at the amount they are ausspoes to win at, as well as all the other hands. It's the fact that o bet online aces will run into better hands on average then in live games.
So run the raise and see how often the sb or bb gets an above average hand. Post your screen shot results if u can. And if a lot if others run it the. We can do pare. Then We will deal live cards and track how often it happe s live on video. Don't worry about the outcome of the hands

Please explain, exactly, how to do this, (some of us aren't as software-smart as you), and I'll certainly give it a go.

(Include where the player is sitting; how many players are on the table; what an above average hand means; etc.)

Thanks.

He is clearly trying to pull the rug from under SB's feet


http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict...nder-sb-s-feet

This was the most recent example of myself playing vs a blind after raising pre and I don't need to look any further than this one hand.




Impossible for BB to get away from a monster hand like J9o, obviously rigged.

I have no idea how to do it. Maybe it can't be done so maybe that is the rig?

He is carpetbagging you. Don't be floored by his rich tapestry of logic.


All the best.


P.S. Quilt all forms of poker