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01-28-2009 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gangip
because we've been over this thousands of times: online poker is not rigged.

we insult you and hopefully mods will ban you because

1. ignorant people are frustrating to talk to over and over about the same topic

and most importantly

2. every time some ******* like you starts an "online poker is rigged" thread on a forum as big as 2p2, online poker loses a few fish. imagine being a fish and you want to deposit on a poker site. well, you dont know which site is the best, so you go to a poker forum (i.e. 2p2) to ask people which site is the best to play on. you then see hundreds of threads like "OMFG ONLINE POKER IS RIGGED" or "im $4.76 below expectation between breakfast in lunch.. RIGGED!" what are your thoughts? i'm guessing "gee, i dont wanna deposit if im gonna get cheated out of my money. ill just go to the casino"

fish will think this because they dont know any better--they're stupid. that's why they're fish. that's why you need to stop chasing them away with garbage like this.

so stop killing online poker and wasting our time
I'm beginning to think that this is being done deliberately by FoF members hoping for this exact scenario.
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01-28-2009 , 01:00 PM
I know a site that is REALLY not rigged. They are currently seeking investors.

PM me if you'd like to get in on the ground floor.
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01-28-2009 , 01:03 PM
Who actually reads past the first sentence in these things? I know thats where I stopped.
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01-28-2009 , 01:09 PM
Every single "Online Poker is Rigged" thread I read seems like an elaborate level. The longer and dumber it is the more I am convinced.
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01-28-2009 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernie Madoff
I know a site that is REALLY not rigged. They are currently seeking investors.

PM me if you'd like to get in on the ground floor.
LOL Bernie Madoff is RIGGED
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01-28-2009 , 01:16 PM
tl;dr
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01-28-2009 , 01:25 PM
Aren't there too many of this "rigged" threads, post in another one and don't make every day a new one... One point is that most players seem not to understand probabilities and how they appear. There is an extra Forum Part for that, so look it up and you'll see almost evrything is possible, maybe just one in thousand times, but compared to the numbers of hands online played you can expect to see some tough beats time over time
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01-28-2009 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Alobar
Who actually reads past the first sentence in these things? I know thats where I stopped.

I wont read a post by Jesus that looks like that. Some rig-tard has no chance.
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01-28-2009 , 01:32 PM
Whats going on with the OMG poker is rigged thread?

The name of the thread has been changed?
All the OPs posts are gone?
His PM to me is gone?
The name changed thread has been locked?
Another thread wondering about it is locked?
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01-28-2009 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SooperFish24
Whats going on with the OMG poker is rigged thread?

The name of the thread has been changed?
All the OPs posts are gone?
His PM to me is gone?
The name changed thread has been locked?
Another thread wondering about it is locked?
Perhaps the mods are waking up to the fact that these rigtard threads are becoming like an infestation and detracting from the site.
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01-28-2009 , 01:45 PM
I cant be the pokers on the internets sos its gottas bes riggs.
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01-28-2009 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SooperFish24
Whats going on with the OMG poker is rigged thread?
Are you seriously bothered?
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01-28-2009 , 02:05 PM
yes im very bothered
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01-28-2009 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SooperFish24
yes im very bothered
Stephen, is that you?
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01-28-2009 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SooperFish24
yes im very bothered
Those whom the Gods wish to destroy they first make mad*.



* Edit: That's 'mad' in the sense of insane, BTW, not angry. I worry that rigtards might get the wrong idea.

Last edited by qpw; 01-28-2009 at 02:33 PM.
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01-28-2009 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
you can't blame the live house game b/c you KNOW it wasn't rigged it was bad luck
All offline (live) poker is completely rigged. All online poker is competely honest. I think you (OP) work for the casinos and are involved in a major scandal to rid the world of online poker. The offline games are where we are cheated!
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01-28-2009 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Alobar
Who actually reads past the first sentence in these things? I know thats where I stopped.
I got as far as sentence #2:
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Let me say this to start with. I have NO proof that ONLINE POKER IS RIGGED.
but if he hadn't have stuck that unnecessary full stop in, it would have been sentence #1.

Juk
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01-28-2009 , 02:59 PM
All rigged posters dont get banned just the ones who do dumb stuff like stephenmeares. All you have to do is use the search feature or look at yourself.
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01-28-2009 , 03:02 PM
What incentive would there be for the site to "rig" it? They get plenty of money on rake alone. Its not like you are playing the house when you are playing poker.
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01-28-2009 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Draidin
LOL Bernie Madoff is RIGGED
Rather than ridicule Bernie, I believe we should employ his expertise in exposing the riggers. F-(ken Riggers!!!!!!!!
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01-28-2009 , 03:07 PM
Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with... geometric logic... that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I'd have produced that key if they hadn't of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers... But, but they were SUITED Dammit!
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01-28-2009 , 03:11 PM
If you believe poker is rigged, tell us why. If we're not convinced, don't get upset about it.

If you want people to agree with you, go here and tell them how great you think this "article is.
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01-28-2009 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tk1133
Why when somebody questions the integrity of the game...get verbally bashed and banned?

...Anybody that questions online poker gets banned and restricted what we see. Why are they insulted and banned instead of guided?
Banned? There are tonnes of rigged threads alive in this forum and the OPs are still posting. You don't see them anymore because people eventually lose interest, the threads drop a couple of pages, and then someone like yourself starts a whole new thread. Of course some of them end up getting banned, usually because they don't know when to stop and end up breaking forum rules.

As to why they get bashed, it's usually because they've start yet another thread, just like all the others, with nothing but anecdotal malarkey and not a shred of data or evidence.

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Originally Posted by SooperFish24
Whats going on with the OMG poker is rigged thread?

The name of the thread has been changed?
All the OPs posts are gone?
His PM to me is gone?
The name changed thread has been locked?
Another thread wondering about it is locked?
The rigged thread and the Real Deal threads were merged. Not sure why, probably because there was a lot of overlapping issues and discussions going on. When threads are merged, the earlier of the two OPs becomes the OP of the merged thread; in this case that was the Real Deal thread.

At that point Mr. Meares went off the deep end even more than he already was. I know that before that happened, he had been making unsubstantiated (and quite ridiculous) inferences that 2+2 was banning anyone that supported him, was corrupt, etc. After the merge, his paranoia grew exponentially. I know at least one mod received PMs about how corrupt 2+2 was, etc, etc. He went ahead and restarted his thread, which is obviously a no-no.

Anyway, I guess Mat Sklansky had enough of it. Why the ban took the form that it did, where all of his posts and PMs were wiped, you'd have to ask him. That's something commonly used for spammers, but sometimes for others as well.
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01-28-2009 , 03:55 PM
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What incentive would there be for the site to "rig" it? They get plenty of money on rake alone. Its not like you are playing the house when you are playing poker.
Greed my son Greed. You dont see big oil companies saying oh well we ve used up our share of oil, time to close the company and do something else we ve made enough money. No they go to Iraq and steal other peoples oil. Why "Greed" "Corruption".

So incentive for the poker sites, well if the RNG was legit and the good players allowed to win the "majority" of the time which in any skill game the best player will win more times than the worse player, then the poor platers would go elsewhere and stop paying "plenty of rake money" as you put it. Keep the bad players winning/believing they have poker skill and they will keep depositing and contributing rake.

Greed! The people who own major poker sites are not exactly the greatest contributors to society if you know what I mean.
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01-28-2009 , 04:01 PM
That's great, Sooper.

They have motive to commit a crime. Now come back when you have evidence OF a crime and maybe some data to prove they did it.

Could it be rigged? Sure, it could.

Could there be a bomb in my mailbox right now?

Possible, I guess. But ya know what? I'm still gonna check.

If there's a rash of mail bombings reported by the local, reputable media I'll be more wary. If the local nut job says Elvis told him to be careful because Aliens are sending mailbombs, I probably will not take him too seriously.
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