Sometimes i have to stop and think for a second..maybe its me maybe im crazy.


NAAAAAAAAAAA totaly rigged cmon...cmon have you tried to play it?
Who are these people pouring over thier stats sayingits random its random?
possibly losers?

Honestly I admire your abilities to live in complete denial.

the sooner we can all admit how badly we have been manipulated the healing can begin and the bad guys can go to jail.

The sooner you post some actual Evidence the sooner we can bring these evil sites to book.

Unfortunately, they seem to have such sophisticated software that they never rig the hands of people who are capable of doing an analysis of their hand histories.

So it really is down to an intelligent riggie to save the day.



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I am using Holdem/Omaha Version Pro Version. But the best software will not help you at Pokerstars if this site dont allow you to win.
What i hear here is just drifting away from subject. People here who question posts of people and tryin to make them ridiculous should be asked why they dont ask Pokerstars some questions.
You can try and see what you will get. Do you think Pokerstars will give you a pleasing respond? They will send you some standard answers and after third time they will tell you the discussion is finished like the way many try to do here.
You know a pokersite like Pokerstars did get away with it in the past and they made big profit last ten years. So this site knows with what it can get away and they will keep doing it until they must not be scared of being punished by a state. Look at Pokerstars. I mean dont just see the advertising on television look at this company all they do is ignoring because they can do it. This site will press out all the money of the people until poker is destroyed completely. Look at the developments of last years. Many states isolate their poker market with antifreedom and antidemocratic kind of laws. But this is not just the fault of some antiliberal policy. Most people in society dont see poker as something decent and this comes out then so its not peoples or policy fault its fault of poker sites like Pokerstars. With sites like Pokerstars you cant establish online poker its too much dirt in it. What Pokerstars did to poker is the worst thing you can do and it will take time until people can trust online poker again. Look at all these owners of this sites they have enough money but do you think they are intelligent enough? No. They keep like this they have learned it it was paying off well so they keep doing it. They have millions of dollars but its not enough they cant stop the greed inside. They cant stop until some of this guys land in jail some day and not just for some days but for some years that would be a good sign and i hope this happens soon.
Things just can change when poker sites learn to think longterm. Because if you offer a fair game to the players you will get more poker players all over the world and poker will be established in society as a good thoughtbased strategical game. The players can trust the game then and i am sure that even poker sites will make bigger profit in a fair way.
I posted here cause i really dont like how people are cheated by a site, people who wanna just play a game its not about getting high but to have a chance to get high in this game at least because people pay for this chance with real money and i dont like how the reputation of poker developed last years and first of all rigged poker sites are responsible for that.

Nice 'wall of text'.

Or: tl;dr

When will you realise that all you need to do to get some action against a dodgy site is: Post Some Evidence.

All the walls of text and heartfelt diatribes in the world will be of no consequence until you do that.




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wiki has the common ability to deny reality in favour of the one that came in a box.

Surely it is those who promote a view of the world that would provide evidence if it were true, and yet show no such evidence that are denying reality.



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I dont think there is any benefit for Pokerstars to cheat people but they keep doing it. I suppose its their business policy they want poker being more look gambling like. They want big pots full of action and full of traps. Why? They make more profit. Its obvious. Their business policy is like let the game drift unfair a bit who cares as long as we make more money.

To me its still not benefit for this company because longterm they will get problems with the law and many serious players will quit there.

Look at Full Tilt. Look at what they have done. Was it for benefit of them what they did? No but they still did it. Because these sites think shortterm its not as rational as you would expect.

touche

So, basically, you are saying they continually behave in a way that is against their interests.

And yet they are the most successful poker site - live or on line - ever, and have been for some years.

Seems to me that you need a new theory. One that is easier to align with reality.



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How many times are we gona do this
The truth is self evident
Only lies need to be defended and sold sold sold..
its getting old wiki
People can not hide behind Lies anymore
you dont even play the games and your on here preaching its fair its fair.
Its completely unfair unbalanced and possibly coming to an end as we know it.

Its all coming out what has been going on anyone can inform themselves. The sites the affiliates the players endless scams/ponzi schemes/ credit fraud..all these pigs drain the system so they need too cheat and they do.
I predict more countries ban thier people from playing on sites like pokerstars unless htey keep making drastic changes and quickly.

FYP

tl;dr

Why do you insist on keep posting this drivel when all you need to do is post Evidence?

If this is something that is happening to so many people so much of the time there will be mountains of such evidence so your continued failure to post it just confirms you are talking grade 1 shite.



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If you were to stop putting your tongue where the sun doesn't shine, you wouldn't have to take weekends off to rest it.

States are interested in getting taxes. In gambling branche states want to hold their monopoly because they make a lot money through it so if they allow other gambling poker or betting sites they lose money obviously.

I dont say this is right. I am for liberal laws. Whoever wants to play poker or bet should have the right do wherever he wants. What i am in favour is that the card generator of poker sites should be controlled by some kind of state institution.

I am not sure if states are interested in that cause of the reason i mentioned above. But i can understand states who say that some of this poker sites dont want to pay taxes. A poker site should pay to all states some kind of taxes calculated by all the generated rake. Still states think that a gambling monopoly by the state brings more money but i would say liberal laws will bring even more money if the poker sites are regulated and the game will become clean. I made United States as proposal beacuse its a developed democratic country but you can take other state too as long it is a democracy and with less corruption.

In case of Pokerstars i can understand United States policy regarding Pokerstars illegal but for other reasons in my opinion Pokerstars cheats players. I told the reasons why i think like that.

Why would that be necessary?

If there is anything wrong with the RNG then the Evidence will be all over the 'net.

No need to complicate things with government bureaucracy.



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And before you know it OLP will be the same as in France where 2% tax is paid even if there is no flop. You think poker sites are greedy? wait till governments tax the bejesus outta ya

You posit that people who work in these most ancient of honorable professions are susceptible to corruption.

Do you believe an internet website offering card games for money to be more trustworthy?

ldo.

(Well, not necessarily more honest just much more susceptible to being caught out on account of the fact that they have no option but to leave the Evidence of their actions strewn all over the place.)

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I post because you zombies pmo to no end. you wouldnt listen to evidence if it smacked yu in the head

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H0X-7sDwZE

Consider a complete detox program maybe you will learn to think for yourselves again.
you have absolutely no thoughts for all the people that lost a lot of $$$$ on pokerstars and other sites becasue they fall victim to set ups traps collusion etc etc etc etc

Bad things keep happening because good people dont stand up and say HEY WTF IS GOING ON HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!

wiki youare not good people.

I told the way poker sites are thinking. They see more shortterm winnings. And yes longterm its against their interests but they dont see it like this. That is the difference. Full Tilt wasnt interested to act against their own interests but they did. Why did they do it? How could this happen? The way you are arguing this would be impossible but it happened.

I dont need theories i stick to the facts. I paid for it with real money.

The reason why Pokerstars is successful i mentioned in previous posts. One reason is they have a good software who could deny that? But a good software means nothing when this site cheats players.

But lets say you are new and wanna play poker for fun obviously. You would play at pokerstars cause the software is good and its comfortable technically to play there. Look at the software of other poker sites. Even the game there maybe is not rigged it makes not fun to play there because most other poker sites software is bad some are okay though. You should read my posts better and your way to ridicule everything against your opinion is just boring.

Why do you keep posting this drivel when all you have to do is post the Evidence?



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Why do you keep posting this drivel when all you need to do is post the Evidence?


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There can be different ways to get taxes. The situation of France is fault of sites like Pokerstars. Pokerstars destroys poker.
I made the proposal that taxes should be paid to every state from all generated rake at the poker sites. The big lie of poker sites is they states want so much taxes from them. Poker sites like Pokerstars make millions of profit whats the problem to pay some taxes to the state? All busines companies have to pay taxes and poker sites have to do too.
As i said before people dont see poker as something decent there is no good reputation and i can understand that. Poker sites had the chance to establish this great game in society but they have been interested in fast profit and rigged games everywhere scandals and dirt so it was going to this.
I dont like poker laws in France,Italy and now Spain beacuse this are antiliberal laws but as i said its the fault of sites like Pokerstars who just think of themselves and their profits and not of the game or poker players.

You really seem to be working this word this morning. Whatever made you choose it as today's theme?

Short, definite, to the point, pretty uncontroversial, and puts the riggies on the spot.

As a contrast, tomorrow's theme will be based around: 'intransigent'.



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