So liberating, avoiding the silliness in this thread for a couple of months. And so amusing seeing guys like BR still here dishing out the same tripe. Still carrying on about how there are so many dreamers and shills making a living posting here, and I imagine he still uses the argument about how often they post here to prove his point. Anyone have a guess who posts in this thread more frequently than blatantlyrigged?

Well, maybe I'll come check in on BR again in a couple of months. Until then, enjoy!

Good try, champ, but the "88" in your PKR username kind of already gave away that you weren't a 40 year old making 95,000 euros a year.

+1

Lol so you think that because i used 88 in my poker name that means i was born in 88? FYI i use the number 8 because it's been my "lucky" number since i was a kid (born in 1970 making me 41 years old in case u care). I also have the name tompa88 on will hill and pilpkiller88 on stars.

Good to see the only reason you showed up was to see what I was doing. If I can help one person from getting conned into thinking the deal isnt manipulated by the massive amounts of employees, shills, affiliates, etc. that clog this forum, that is a plus. Seeing that youre so concerned with what I say definitely shows my presence is worthwhile.

Don't you think you're best chance of doingt that would be to present well-reasoned arguments backed up by evidence?

Do you really think: "It's obvious" is a convincing argument for anyone who doesn't already consider it to be obvious? You're only going to preach to the converted and will not likely convince new people without adding something.

the scam of online poker is un detactable by checking stats there fore all you shrills cAN SUK MY ROSTER

Wow. You really are a pathetic little child aren't you.

Strike a nerve? Were you an affiliate with FTP?
Current site promoter for PS?

No, but what I wrote would be still true if I was.

Do you think being a site promoter automatically negates an argument? Do you dismiss a PR reps' argument just because they are a PR rep? Is it possible to be a shill AND tell the truth about the shilled product?

Playing devil's advocate here, but I would be more skeptical of information that comes from a shill. That doesn't mean I would automatically dismiss it though.

Not devil's advocate - it's exactly the right position to take!

There is nothing wrong with taking any of what anyone says here with a high degree of skepticism. But at the end of the day, the arguments speak for themselves. They rise and fall on their own merits.

Some riggies think that calling someone a shill is a sufficient refutation of their arguments. It's not. It's just a way of trying to poison the well and get other people to dismiss the arguments for fallacious reasons.

Doesn't matter if anyone here is a shill or not - the arguments for and against what they wrote are exactly the same.

Honestly, you have debating "fancy play syndrome" in that you are putting your opponent's behavior on a level that does not exist. Reminds me of when players send me a hand and ask "how can an opponent do that, what does he think I have?" The answer after a quick sharkscope search which shows the opponent loses at a -85% ROI is basically that the opponent did not think, he probably did not even have his monitor on when playing.

All of your rules of logical and rational thinking apply when two people are having a proper dialogue/debate, but you are not in a dialogue with that blatantdude, and never have been. You are essentially speaking to a recorded message which never varies and will never change.

Your critical thinking rules simply do not apply in this case, because they are not part of his game plan, so in the end it is you who are wasting your time by trying to get him to play by a set of rules he has openly ignored.

Kind of reminds me of the "good players" who keep trying to bluff drooling calling stations off a hand. They keep playing chicken against a guy who is driving at them while asleep and wonder why these donks keep crashing into them.

That being said, guys like blatant do serve a purpose if you use them properly. Making fun of him/her/other is pointless since he is a taped recording machine, so ignore any direct contact, but use him/her as a model for other riggies and watch how much they avoid the topic. They know he is poison to their beliefs so they ignore any attempts to be linked to him, and then after you do that you can do a breakdown of the critical thinking process those riggies are using by avoiding the blatantdude.


I get that you are into critical thinking, but back away and explain to me exactly what the point is in talking directly to that blatantguy, when the past 100+ attempts have gone to the same nowhere place. He wins whenever anyone does that, so just put him on ignore and use him as an example to other riggies, as to what they can become. He genuinely has scared away more riggies than all the shills combined which shows the power of a living zealot over the dull critical thinking explanation as a means of making a point.

Also, be more evil. Encourage them to be creative in their conspiracies. Amuse yourself with their odd fixations (like the riggie who has a thing for fat dudes). Hurl them at the stats guys in the probability forum. Lots of ways to have fun with riggies once you appreciate the game they are playing.

Oh, I have no expectation of a serious reply - but it still entertains me.

Fair enough, but that essentially means that you and blatantdude post for the same reasons and in a similar manner. Still, if both of you are happy with that non-dialogue dialogue then I guess that works in meeting both your needs, especially within a thread like this.

I wouldn't go that far...

No one believes the 'my 15 year-old son blew my bankroll' story.

Ok a little "research" for you to undertake and lets see if you are smart enough to realise that i am telling the truth.


I have 150+ posts! 100% of my posts are between the hours of 8-30 am and 5-30 pm (thats what we working people call office hours). Monday to Friday. All of a sudde there are 3 or 4 posts at 9-30 in the evening. As i said its my own fault for ticking the remember me on this site and my poker site. If you decide to check you will see i am right and maybe you will take time out if your busy day to apologise for calling me a liar (not holding my breath on that one). Or maybe you will continue to be the fool you are and keep posting silly responses to get your post count up. Either way i really don't care about you or what you think but i will come back on monday morning to see how you decide to respond. Have a nice weekend p2p and don't let the idiots like ray get you down.

tom, nothing you will say will ever convince them of anything. in fact, now they'll probably accuse you of being awfully defensive about this whole thing proving that you're really lying.

the best you can do is just say "yeah, okay" and walk away. especially with raymears, who is obviously just trolling.

It's not the same but it really is closer than you might realize once you back away and look at it from an outside perspective.

He never posts to actually have a dialogue, he just churns out the same old crazy guy screaming at clouds routine of site defenders, shills, Lizard People whatever that he has been doing for a long time. His posts often time have nothing to do with the ones he is replying to, other than giving him a platform to say his pre-recorded ramblings.

You have said you don't post to him ever expecting an intelligent reply, so you post your deductive thinking theories to mainly entertain yourself since he is not listening, and few others even notice the chats with him any more after all these iterations.

Sure yours are better thought out and reasonably written where his are scrawl on a poster board, but the reasons for posting are basically the same, to entertain yourself and not because you expect the other side to listen or reply in any active manner. He posts for the same reasons even if he is a slave to his own beliefs instead of doing it for self entertainment.


Nothing wrong with it if you enjoy it, as this thread is hardly important. I get entertained hurling riggies at stats guys or frustrating other riggies by forcing a partnership with that blatantdude (that all avoid) or trying to get one to become the riggie leader. You get entertained posting deductive reasoning to people who ignore your posts. Blatant posts to scream his bitter beliefs after his failed attempt at a poker career (pretty much the only way he validates himself these days). Others talk about and post pictures of fat dudes. Some look for fights.

This thread is the melting pot after all!

G'way ya gombeen

It's cute how both you and your "son" don't capitalize "I". It's genetic, I'm sure.

i don't capitalize my i's either. i must be tompakee also!

There is no question online poker is rigged. Take Pokerstars for example. They don't tell you the random number generator is only authenticated up until the shuffle. Than after that they are free to do with whatever is shuffled. If they want to set up two people cheating. Someone who has the authority can. Its that simple. They can say they do it to * protect * the integrity of the game but there are always people who go above and beyond what something is meant for whether for persoanl gain/agenda/profit. Do you EVER see team pros on pokerstars go through EXTENDED runs of horrendous beats like the rest of us? Do you see them all in getting 2 outted 45 times a day deep in a tournment? LOL. Ya right! Once or twice sure but after all they are pros! Pros don't get that type of * luck* The rest of us do. Especially the players who are not constant regulars and cash out most of what they win and don't recycle it consistantly back in to the war chest. Feed your own! When was the last time the RNG was audited. Fully from start to finish of the software it NEVER has been. Now of course they won't tell you that however when was the last time it was even audited. Maybe the DOJ can provided us with some insight, LOL. Some honest unjaded insight.