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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
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06-29-2012 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gzer
Cmon man ... nationality doesn't matter, you can't be serious
The reason you see many beats from Ruskies is simple, from average number of 100k players that are online, around 70% of them are from Russia, now I could be wrong about figures and I probably am, but it seems that every table that you open you will find at least one player from Russia, and when you add Vodka to that mix J4o looks like pocket aces

However, remote viewing and psychic powers are not out of the question for some of them
Didn't think of that. Russians were working on psychic powers during the cold war.
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06-30-2012 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
I think the players who think online poker is rigged and the players who think online poker isn't rigged should get together and play live poker.
I'm going to be in Las Vegas from July 8 to July 15 if anyone wants to play a game.
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06-30-2012 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Josem
I'm going to be in Las Vegas from July 8 to July 15 if anyone wants to play a game.
GL GL better decisions.

oh btw watch out for those French tourists at the tables(they have a atm sign on their forehead, they got a lot of gamble in emm
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06-30-2012 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Josem
I'm going to be in Las Vegas from July 8 to July 15 if anyone wants to play a game.
Im sure you're pokerstar staff is in the hotel room waitng for you with your brown nosing award

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06-30-2012 , 11:34 PM
Please stop rigging the games. I know you probably think I'm just mad over a bad beat but that isn't the case. I have played thousands of tournaments on Lock in the past two years and the stuff you see is just plain bogus. I know you just like to chalk it up to variance but you are not fooling anyone. I'm not saying it's rigged for any one particular player. However, the bigger stack wins the vast majority of all-in showdowns regardless if they have the best hand or not pre-flop. I see people (myself included) get 1-2 outed so often its sickening. I realize bad beats happen, but when it happens almost every time you play you start to wonder what the hell is going on. I theorize its rigged for the bigger stack simply to expedite the tournaments so they don't drag on forever. This is not fair to anyone and really takes the fun and integrity out of the game.

Not only that, but every flop seems to be what some like to call "action flops". Essentially meaning that many flops are geared to entice all players involved in the hand to bet/call due to the implied odds. I have recorded empirical data that absolutely suggests the site is rigged. I strongly encourage you to consult with your programmers to develop a new RNG that truly resembles actual live poker. Anyone who has played a decent amount of live and internet poker can 100% tell the difference between the two.

Last edited by luckyone1; 06-30-2012 at 11:41 PM.
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07-01-2012 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
Another riggie that says something is obvious which directly contradicts something that another riggie has said is obvious.

When are you guys going to get your stories straight? The only thing that is obvious is that you all love a tall tale

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07-01-2012 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
So ...

If you believe that OLP is probably not rigged because, despite plenty of evidence of the hands that have been dealt no one has actually come up with specific evidence of a rig, you are 'manipulated by others' and 'can't put 2 + 2 together'?

Yet if you believe what a pack of paranoid people who are very bad poker players tell you on the basis of patterns that they can see but cannot extract from the data the represents what they've seen your are - what - sensible? Intelligent?

You fail.
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07-01-2012 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Shill This U Fools
Shill this, how old is that pile of crap spewed by wiki? Hes been using that same lie now for how long?? Hell say that no evidence of rigging crap right below a post with a clear example of deal manipulation. Well, shills will be shills. And same goes for all these site employees in here.

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Originally Posted by Darkus63
You still haven't got to grips with the "what constitutes evidence" problem, have you?
Have you come to terms with yourself yet that you are extremely naive and ignorant?
Maybe youve never played online poker?

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Originally Posted by river-rat-dan
Gagging for attention desperately trying to make a friend .BR you rpeally are a pathetic ****. Are you still getting paid the full 20c per post now that mods are amalgamating all of your worthless rants into one pile of steaming bullchit. Its good to.see even the riggies are ignoring you now cos they know your full of crap.and just a paid (cheaply) shill posting in here to confuse people.
Tompakee, the moron of all morons, on his 7th alias, saying someone else is desperate for friends????!!
I think if I were you, Id be thinking of ways to escape this world.

So nice to see the biggest wastes of life on here at the same time, tompakee and darkus. NOT!

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Originally Posted by Darkus63
They already see him for the idiot he is. It's just that in this thread, pretty much anything goes.
Imbeciles like you amaze me. Im the idiot, but you defend an obvious internet gaming scam, (online poker), and probably dont even play. Wake the **** up!!!

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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy




DIDN'T READ, LOL
In real life this dork probably sticks his fingers in his ears and says "la, la ,la..la, la, la" when confronted with a truth that he wants to pretend doesnt exist. In this case, the truth of online poker being blatantly manipulated doesnt exists in his fantasy world. Hes happy with his faith based belief that the online poker scam is fair and randomly dealt.

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Originally Posted by Shill This U Fools
Better to wake up and smell coffee than the rest of you shill-turds that wake up daily smelling the sweet aroma of bull**** these online poker room bosses plant on your chest on a nightly basis

+15002

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-02-2012 at 08:48 AM. Reason: 7 posts merged
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07-01-2012 , 05:55 AM
Oh good! Some stupid jpgs, gifs and youtube links!
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07-01-2012 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Hell say that no evidence of rigging crap right below a post with a clear example of deal manipulation.
You still haven't got to grips with the "what constitutes evidence" problem, have you?
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07-01-2012 , 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Feel
If you have taken the time to do the scripts on www.benjoffe.com with a real deck of cards, you will without a doubt notice that is possible to control who wins and who loses in a game of texas holdem and omaha.


Have fun everyone!
No-one has ever denied that its possible to provide a rigged deal. If you've been following the discussion the issue is whether it is possible to rig a deal to an extent large enough to influence player behaviour, but in a statistically undetectable manner.
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07-01-2012 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Have you come to terms with yourself yet that you are extremely naive and ignorant?
Maybe youve never played online poker?
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07-01-2012 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
So nice to see the biggest wastes of life on here at the same time, tompakee and darkus. NOT!
In Blatantly******ed's world the biggest wastes of life (biggest shills, biggest site supporters, whatever) are whoever happened to most recently point out what a dribbling moron he is. Sad. Predictable, but sad.
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07-01-2012 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by river-rat-dan
7th lol this is at least my 15th gimmick (takes five minutes to make one) its only wasted 75 minutes of my sorry life for no reason except to make a dick of myself. i know. i'm a sad person
They already see him for the idiot he is. It's just that in this thread, pretty much anything goes.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-02-2012 at 08:33 AM.
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07-01-2012 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
... Im the idiot ...
BR finally wakes up and smells the coffee!
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07-01-2012 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkus63
BR finally wakes up and smells the coffee!
Better to wake up and smell coffee than the rest of you shill-turds that wake up daily smelling the sweet aroma of bull**** these online poker room bosses plant on your chest on a nightly basis

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07-01-2012 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Shill this, how old is that pile of crap spewed by wiki? Hes been using that same lie now for how long?? Hell say that no evidence of rigging crap right below a post with a clear example of deal manipulation. Well, shills will be shills. And same goes for all these site employees in here.

Indeed the she-male has as for the rest of these shill-turd idiots I want to see them at the 2+2 party and I bet i will see one shill-turd with 7 name tags of ops he represents in this thread or forum

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07-01-2012 , 04:55 PM




DIDN'T READ, LOL
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07-01-2012 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
So nice to see the biggest wastes of life on here at the same time, tompakee and darkus. NOT!
This thread has truly reached the depths of contentless posting but I did appreciate this throwback to my junior high school days!
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07-02-2012 , 06:49 AM
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07-02-2012 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoooligan
as
One of the most intelligent riggie posts I've seen.
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07-02-2012 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by luckyone1
Please stop rigging the games. I know you probably think I'm just mad over a bad beat but that isn't the case. I have played thousands of tournaments on Lock in the past two years and the stuff you see is just plain bogus. I know you just like to chalk it up to variance but you are not fooling anyone. I'm not saying it's rigged for any one particular player. However, the bigger stack wins the vast majority of all-in showdowns regardless if they have the best hand or not pre-flop. I see people (myself included) get 1-2 outed so often its sickening. I realize bad beats happen, but when it happens almost every time you play you start to wonder what the hell is going on. I theorize its rigged for the bigger stack simply to expedite the tournaments so they don't drag on forever. This is not fair to anyone and really takes the fun and integrity out of the game.

Not only that, but every flop seems to be what some like to call "action flops". Essentially meaning that many flops are geared to entice all players involved in the hand to bet/call due to the implied odds. I have recorded empirical data that absolutely suggests the site is rigged. I strongly encourage you to consult with your programmers to develop a new RNG that truly resembles actual live poker. Anyone who has played a decent amount of live and internet poker can 100% tell the difference between the two.
Good observation. He's using his common sense.
One small error with this though. The software IS programmed to deal each individual certain cards depending on their status, just cashed out, new player, etc.
Action hands are a RESULT of the deal manipulation, not the main purpose.
Yes, all the employees, site promoters, etc. in this thread will SAY its variance, even though they know its not, (thats why they are here). No, it wont be changed. These sites have been rigging the online poker scam basically the same way with since inception. Many people know the deal isnt right but keep playing anyway. Why would they fix whats not broken?

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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Good observation. He's using his common sense.
One small error with this though. The software IS programmed to deal each individual certain cards depending on their status, just cashed out, new player, etc.
Action hands are a RESULT of the deal manipulation, not the main purpose.
Yes, all the employees, site promoters, etc. in this thread will SAY its variance, even though they know its not, (thats why they are here). No, it wont be changed. These sites have been rigging the online poker scam basically the same way with since inception. Many people know the deal isnt right but keep playing anyway. Why would they fix whats not broken?
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Originally Posted by allah hu akbar
another 5 minutes wasted
Tompakee, such a sad (pathetic) little boy. They wipe out half my posts because the truth about a non random deal used by the online poker scam is not welcome.

Funny how the same site defending scum you hang on the nutsacks of looking for acceptance will soon wipe you completely off the board. LOL LOL
Tompakee, King of Morons!!

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-02-2012 at 09:50 AM. Reason: 3 posts merged
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07-02-2012 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gzer
Cmon man ... nationality doesn't matter, you can't be serious
The reason you see many beats from Ruskies is simple, from average number of 100k players that are online, around 70% of them are from Russia, now I could be wrong about figures and I probably am, but it seems that every table that you open you will find at least one player from Russia, and when you add Vodka to that mix J4o looks like pocket aces

However, remote viewing and psychic powers are not out of the question for some of them
You missed the point. Its not about loosing a lot to russians, its about winning to phew pots compared to the ones you win or vice versa against russians. If they put the money behind they should loose more than they win and thats not what my wife's stats are telling me ...
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07-02-2012 , 11:00 AM
ferdinand what size sample does your wife have? If it is below 250k hands then her experiences are inconclusive.

Where the hell is Monteroy when you need him...
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07-02-2012 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Tompakee, such a sad (pathetic) little boy. They wipe out half my posts because the truth about a non random deal used by the online poker scam is not welcome.
Did the Mod that "wiped out half your posts" single you out as a specific threat? Did he delete them of his own accord or did somebody instruct him to do it? If so who? How much is he paid to MOD here and by whom?

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Originally Posted by ferdinand
You missed the point. Its not about loosing a lot to russians, its about winning to phew pots compared to the ones you win or vice versa against russians. If they put the money behind they should loose more than they win and thats not what my wife's stats are telling me ...
Lets say I assign one of 20 colours randomly to all the players at "your wifes" tables which are clearly marked whilst "she" plays. After a while "she" would almost certainly decide that a particular colour is lucky despite the fact that it was done randomly. Or do you think that no colours would stand out and "she" would have no comment to make?

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Originally Posted by Zakumii
ferdinand what size sample does your wife have? If it is below 250k hands then her experiences are inconclusive.

Where the hell is Monteroy when you need him...
I can't remember how many hands his sub-sample was but we know for certain that he selected it completely at random even though he can't tell us how he did it.
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