The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

[s0crates]

Originally Posted by Markusgc

I strongly suspect some carnival games are rigged so I simply choose not to play them. I don't troll Ring Toss/Milk Bottle Websites trying to point that out to the rubes who are still getting taken.

Well, you might if there were a $10,000,000 Guaranteed World Championship of Ring Toss.

[Devilboy666]

Originally Posted by questions

I want to play a fair game, that's all.

How exactly is crying 'wolf' gonna achieve that for you?

[questions]

Originally Posted by Markusgc

What is the motivation for these posters? Do they just want people to agree with them, or do they genuinely feel they are doing humanity a good turn?

I strongly suspect some carnival games are rigged so I simply choose not to play them. I don't troll Ring Toss/Milk Bottle Websites trying to point that out to the rubes who are still getting taken.

On a side note, before the muckrakers, people were at higher risk of eating tainted meat products. See "The Jungle".

And while I don't consider making comments about online poker to an internet bulletin board as anything even approaching muckraking, it's better than doing nothing.

[Markusgc]

Originally Posted by questions

I want to play a fair game, that's all.

Then find one, play it and do so quietly. If you know or suspect that one isn't don't play it. Quietly, I add again.

I don't go to Christian Discussion Forums to tell them that the bible is a book of fairy tales. I disagree with the business of religion so I just don't spend my money in churches.

[questions]

Originally Posted by Devilboy666

How exactly is crying 'wolf' gonna achieve that for you?

See my response above (we posted at the same time).

[questions]

Originally Posted by Markusgc

Then find one, play it and do so quietly. If you know or suspect that one isn't don't play it. Quietly, I add again.

I don't go to Christian Discussion Forums to tell them that the bible is a book of fairy tales. I disagree with the business of religion so I just don't spend my money in churches.

That's a remarkable attitude. There are sites where a sufficient amount of data collected thus far demonstrates that it is probable that something fishy is going on, and your response (I presume) would be to say nothing? Is that correct?

[Devilboy666]

Originally Posted by questions

There are sites where a sufficient amount of data collected thus far demonstrates that it is probable that something fishy is going on, ...

wat

Post links of retract this statement please because I believe it to be false.

[Markusgc]

Originally Posted by s0crates

Well, you might if there were a $10,000,000 Guaranteed World Championship of Ring Toss.

Nope. Not unless I paid a big fee to enter it. However, since I suspect that the game isn't on the up n' up, I wouldn't make it even to the quarter-finals.

There is a Hot Dog Eating Championship that the same guy keeps winning. Rigged, obv. But since I don't care too much about that activity either, I'm not looking forward to the inevitable hubbub which will surround its dirty little secret being exposed.

[questions]

Originally Posted by Devilboy666

wat

Post links of retract this statement please because I believe it to be false.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=251207

Is that what you mean?

[questions]

Originally Posted by Devilboy666

wat

Post links of retract this statement please because I believe it to be false.

If I was unclear, let me say that was my belief, and that's all my post represented - my belief (along with the subsequent post from the stickie in NVG). Your belief apparently diverges from mine. Welcome to the First Amendment.

[Devilboy666]

Originally Posted by questions

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=251207

Is that what you mean?

That link has nothing to do with rigged RNGs please try again.

[Devilboy666]

Originally Posted by questions

Welcome to the First Amendment.

This is not America and you don't have any rights here.

[questions]

Originally Posted by Devilboy666

That link has nothing to do with rigged RNGs please try again.

In my opinion, it supports the statement I made (to which you responded that I should retract my statement based upon the fact that you personally didn't believe it).

I do not believe Tilt has a rigged RNG, so that's not what I'm saying.

[questions]

Originally Posted by Devilboy666

This is not America and you don't have any rights here.

Not exactly. The fact that I'm posting here indicates that I do have at least one right: the right to post here. Other people who shared that same right but who have been banned no longer possess that right. No moderator or board authority has indicated to me even one time that my posts are violating the terms of service here, so I think you are incorrect on several points. Further, I have as many posts as you and have been a member longer than you. Not that I want to pull rank, but just saying. And you know that song, "Big Ten Inch"? They wrote that in honor of me.

[Markusgc]

Originally Posted by Devilboy666

That link has nothing to do with rigged RNGs please try again.

Not to mention it is full of supporting data. Not suspicions based on people's "feelings."

If someone presented credible evidence here that the RNG's were off then I'd listen. That hasn't happened yet.

If I was convinced that one of the sites I play on was running a rigged game I wouldn't play there anymore.

Again, I use this example: I'm convinced that Jesus isn't coming back to save the world but I don't have proof, so I don't go around trying to convince people otherwise. It doesn't bug me that they think that either since it doesn't affect me too much.

Me thinking online poker isn't rigged doesn't affect you in the least, so why are you (guys) here trying to change my mind?