The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

[gregGGhehe]

i would like to say that online poker is rigged for the new year

[qpw]

Originally Posted by quarantined

... But you would have to be delusional to think the possibility doesn't exist.

I'm pretty much 100% certain that no one has ever said or implied that the possibility does not exist.

There's a possibility that the sun will rise somewhere on earth tomorrow.

There's a possibility that the entire run of Star Wars is an accurate, historical, portrayal of events somewhere in the universe.

The probability that on-line poker is rigged lies somewhere between the probabilities of the above two events being true.

[tk1133]

We need Jesse "The Body" Ventura to investigate this....I heard he proved Pro Wrestling was fake....

[Nofx Fan]

Originally Posted by banonlinepoker

Off course it is. PS and FTP want the tourney over ASAP. So they can get more players back at the tables and more entries.

ah ha! So you do post in this thread. Somehow that doesn't surprise me, but I'm happy to confirm my thoughts on you.

[quarantined]

I'm quite certain I didn't state online poker is rigged, so save your ridiculous analogies for the 'rigtards' you belittle on a regular basis. Thx to the diligence of some very persistent people,there have been scandals cracked. Although if the people cheating at Ub, and Ap had not been overly greedy, those probably would have been ongoing as well. I have no particular axe to grind, nor do I want to debate some pimply faced kid who gets off on scouring poker forums to slam people's opinions. I merely wanted to add my opinion, which is, without proof, one must give any entity the benefit of the doubt. On a side note, articbeatle I have followed your quest with interest.best of luck

[MostlyBS]

Is tournament poker rigged? Has there been any analysis done on tournament hand histories?

[spadebidder]

Originally Posted by MostlyBS

Is tournament poker rigged? Has there been any analysis done on tournament hand histories?

If it were, how would the site benefit with the rake paid up front?

[LVGambler]

Quicker tournies = more fees?? Not that I think that. Just sayin. That's a hard(er) one. But then again, on the flip side of that, wouldn't sites "kick out" players who are just getting blinded out? That would speed things up n they don't do that (from what I remember).

[spadebidder]

Originally Posted by LVGambler

Quicker tournies = more fees?? Not that I think that. Just sayin.

Turbo. Super Turbo. Very popular. The mix of games and structures offered makes it easy for the site to maximize the rate of tourney fees paid.

[smithcommajohn]

Originally Posted by spadebidder

Turbo. Super Turbo. Very popular. The mix of games and structures offered makes it easy for the site to maximize the rate of tourney fees paid.

I think most sites offer reduced fees for the turbos, as well. I wonder how that is factored into the "rigged" theory.

[MostlyBS]

Originally Posted by spadebidder

Turbo. Super Turbo. Very popular. The mix of games and structures offered makes it easy for the site to maximize the rate of tourney fees paid.

True, but if a player is playing in a tourny already, that player is no longer generating revenue. The only way to generate more revenue from that player is for him/her to register for another tourny. The fast way that can happen is to bust out as many players in a tourny as fast as possible.

[Josem]

Originally Posted by TwoMoos

Online sites could do a lot more by providing tools to players that allow them to analyze their play and distribution of hands. It should be easy to tell a player "you've played 14000 hands, you've had AA 53 times, you've been in 200 showdowns and won 43% of the time." Most players don't the time or tools to thoroughly analyze all the hand history.

PokerStars already does this for the last 6 weeks of your hands.

[Arouet]

Originally Posted by MostlyBS

True, but if a player is playing in a tourny already, that player is no longer generating revenue. The only way to generate more revenue from that player is for him/her to register for another tourny. The fast way that can happen is to bust out as many players in a tourny as fast as possible.

But won't that just discourage new players frustrated at busting out early? Maybe they let bad players win more so that they last longer in the tournament, feel their getting their money's worth, and continue playing rather than quitting.

[smithcommajohn]

Originally Posted by Josem

PokerStars already does this for the last 6 weeks of your hands.

Wait... what? How do you view this information?

[Rek]

Have we decided yet whether it's rigged?