The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

[Shill This U Fools]

Originally Posted by Darkus63

BR finally wakes up and smells the coffee!

Better to wake up and smell coffee than the rest of you shill-turds that wake up daily smelling the sweet aroma of bull**** these online poker room bosses plant on your chest on a nightly basis

[Shill This U Fools]

Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

Shill this, how old is that pile of crap spewed by wiki? Hes been using that same lie now for how long?? Hell say that no evidence of rigging crap right below a post with a clear example of deal manipulation. Well, shills will be shills. And same goes for all these site employees in here.

Indeed the she-male has as for the rest of these shill-turd idiots I want to see them at the 2+2 party and I bet i will see one shill-turd with 7 name tags of ops he represents in this thread or forum

[NewOldGuy]

DIDN'T READ, LOL

[Arouet]

Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

So nice to see the biggest wastes of life on here at the same time, tompakee and darkus. NOT!

This thread has truly reached the depths of contentless posting but I did appreciate this throwback to my junior high school days!

[Hoooligan]

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[Darkus63]

Originally Posted by Hoooligan

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One of the most intelligent riggie posts I've seen.

[blatantlyrigged]

Originally Posted by luckyone1

Please stop rigging the games. I know you probably think I'm just mad over a bad beat but that isn't the case. I have played thousands of tournaments on Lock in the past two years and the stuff you see is just plain bogus. I know you just like to chalk it up to variance but you are not fooling anyone. I'm not saying it's rigged for any one particular player. However, the bigger stack wins the vast majority of all-in showdowns regardless if they have the best hand or not pre-flop. I see people (myself included) get 1-2 outed so often its sickening. I realize bad beats happen, but when it happens almost every time you play you start to wonder what the hell is going on. I theorize its rigged for the bigger stack simply to expedite the tournaments so they don't drag on forever. This is not fair to anyone and really takes the fun and integrity out of the game.

Not only that, but every flop seems to be what some like to call "action flops". Essentially meaning that many flops are geared to entice all players involved in the hand to bet/call due to the implied odds. I have recorded empirical data that absolutely suggests the site is rigged. I strongly encourage you to consult with your programmers to develop a new RNG that truly resembles actual live poker. Anyone who has played a decent amount of live and internet poker can 100% tell the difference between the two.

Good observation. He's using his common sense.
One small error with this though. The software IS programmed to deal each individual certain cards depending on their status, just cashed out, new player, etc.
Action hands are a RESULT of the deal manipulation, not the main purpose.
Yes, all the employees, site promoters, etc. in this thread will SAY its variance, even though they know its not, (thats why they are here). No, it wont be changed. These sites have been rigging the online poker scam basically the same way with since inception. Many people know the deal isnt right but keep playing anyway. Why would they fix whats not broken?

Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

Good observation. He's using his common sense.
One small error with this though. The software IS programmed to deal each individual certain cards depending on their status, just cashed out, new player, etc.
Action hands are a RESULT of the deal manipulation, not the main purpose.
Yes, all the employees, site promoters, etc. in this thread will SAY its variance, even though they know its not, (thats why they are here). No, it wont be changed. These sites have been rigging the online poker scam basically the same way with since inception. Many people know the deal isnt right but keep playing anyway. Why would they fix whats not broken?

Originally Posted by allah hu akbar

another 5 minutes wasted

Tompakee, such a sad (pathetic) little boy. They wipe out half my posts because the truth about a non random deal used by the online poker scam is not welcome.

Funny how the same site defending scum you hang on the nutsacks of looking for acceptance will soon wipe you completely off the board. LOL LOL
Tompakee, King of Morons!!

[ferdinand]

Originally Posted by gzer

Cmon man ... nationality doesn't matter, you can't be serious
The reason you see many beats from Ruskies is simple, from average number of 100k players that are online, around 70% of them are from Russia, now I could be wrong about figures and I probably am, but it seems that every table that you open you will find at least one player from Russia, and when you add Vodka to that mix J4o looks like pocket aces

However, remote viewing and psychic powers are not out of the question for some of them

You missed the point. Its not about loosing a lot to russians, its about winning to phew pots compared to the ones you win or vice versa against russians. If they put the money behind they should loose more than they win and thats not what my wife's stats are telling me ...

[Zakumii]

ferdinand what size sample does your wife have? If it is below 250k hands then her experiences are inconclusive.

Where the hell is Monteroy when you need him...

[Bingo_Boy]

Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

Tompakee, such a sad (pathetic) little boy. They wipe out half my posts because the truth about a non random deal used by the online poker scam is not welcome.

Did the Mod that "wiped out half your posts" single you out as a specific threat? Did he delete them of his own accord or did somebody instruct him to do it? If so who? How much is he paid to MOD here and by whom?

Originally Posted by ferdinand

You missed the point. Its not about loosing a lot to russians, its about winning to phew pots compared to the ones you win or vice versa against russians. If they put the money behind they should loose more than they win and thats not what my wife's stats are telling me ...

Lets say I assign one of 20 colours randomly to all the players at "your wifes" tables which are clearly marked whilst "she" plays. After a while "she" would almost certainly decide that a particular colour is lucky despite the fact that it was done randomly. Or do you think that no colours would stand out and "she" would have no comment to make?

Originally Posted by Zakumii

ferdinand what size sample does your wife have? If it is below 250k hands then her experiences are inconclusive.

Where the hell is Monteroy when you need him...

I can't remember how many hands his sub-sample was but we know for certain that he selected it completely at random even though he can't tell us how he did it.

[gzer]

Originally Posted by ferdinand

You missed the point. Its not about loosing a lot to russians, its about winning to phew pots compared to the ones you win or vice versa against russians. If they put the money behind they should loose more than they win and thats not what my wife's stats are telling me ...

Ye well I don't get ya whatever's the case with those russians vs ur wife.
I understand that she's loosing when she's ahead vs them , but I don't see how 'they are from Russia' is playing any role.
However, if you think that it does play some role, then maybe she can go to some other network where the players from Russia are in a small number.
btw I was looking some other rooms these days because I'm sick of the Stars and I wasn't able to see them on other networks, maybe few of them but that's so low that finding one would be like winning a hand with quads.
Or she can go ahead and play live.
I don't see how else she can solve that problem if she thinks there's something going on with them vs her.

[uDrewAtThat?]

BlatantlyRigged's posts are a level.

Stop and think about it for a minute... He posts emotion and opinion without any substantiated statistical data to back up his position and what happens every time? People jump in with why and how he's wrong.

His posts triggering the responses they get would likely convince most people the deal is not rigged, which means unless he's a complete idiot he's actually a shill himself.

Nice Level, That's Strong!

[blatantlyrigged]

Originally Posted by uDrewAtThat?

BlatantlyRigged's posts are a level.

Stop and think about it for a minute... He posts emotion and opinion without any substantiated statistical data to back up his position and what happens every time? People jump in with why and how he's wrong.

His posts triggering the responses they get would likely convince most people the deal is not rigged, which means unless he's a complete idiot he's actually a shill himself.

Nice Level, That's Strong!

Not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this moronic rambling.
Give me a clue to which shill alias you are, that might help.
You are right about one thing. Myself, or anybody bringing the truth to the table in regards to the obvious deal manipulation that takes place in online poker will just get told their wrong, followed by lies and word twisting from the many site promoters, affiliates, site employees, etc. that clog this thread to protect their financial interest in the OLP internet scam.

Originally Posted by Shill This U Fools

Hmm stop and think about it for a minute. Shill-turds do the same thing substantiated statistical data they provide is not coming from themselves either and they can't provide any detailed audit that would disprove any poker sites internal hardware programs would not influence the RNG to give out cards in a way to induce action . I am always amazed that these shill-turd idiots actually pretend to trust these sites. The technology involved may well be beyond your average enforcement office or poker forum to monitor? The absence of simple auditing procedures makes all those associated with the poker sites suspect. IMO

The real shills, affiliates, site promoters, employees,etc. must have a pretty good idea or already know these sites are a scam. Like I said a couple of posts ago, their protecting their financial interest.

[Shill This U Fools]

Originally Posted by uDrewAtThat?

BlatantlyRigged's posts are a level.

Stop and think about it for a minute... He posts emotion and opinion without any substantiated statistical data to back up his position and what happens every time? People jump in with why and how he's wrong.

His posts triggering the responses they get would likely convince most people the deal is not rigged, which means unless he's a complete idiot he's actually a shill himself.

Nice Level, That's Strong!

Hmm stop and think about it for a minute. Shill-turds do the same thing substantiated statistical data they provide is not coming from themselves either and they can't provide any detailed audit that would disprove any poker sites internal hardware programs would not influence the RNG to give out cards in a way to induce action . I am always amazed that these shill-turd idiots actually pretend to trust these sites. The technology involved may well be beyond your average enforcement office or poker forum to monitor? The absence of simple auditing procedures makes all those associated with the poker sites suspect. IMO

Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy

Oh good! Some stupid jpgs, gifs and youtube links!

Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged

The real shills, affiliates, site promoters, employees,etc. must have a pretty good idea or already know these sites are a scam. Like I said a couple of posts ago, their protecting their financial interest.

Indeed but you got to hand it to them BR they sure can dance

[badbeadspecialist]

Its in the long term interests of the big companies to be legit. If they are linked to cheating then their playerbase will make a run on the bank (or cashier).