Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > Internet Poker > Internet Poker

Notices

Internet Poker Discussions of Internet poker venues.

View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
Yes 2,508 35.06%
No 4,210 58.86%
Undecided 435 6.08%
Voters: 7153. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-06-2012, 09:21 PM   #53251
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 7,465
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arouet View Post
Look guys, we've got to cut BR a break. He doesn't understand the difference between evidence and hypothesis no matter how many times its explained to him.
Most anti-Semites tend to be idiots.
otatop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 09:32 PM   #53252
banned
 
BattleGrind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 260
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Does anybody agree with these points made by this site against rigging or perhaps they might be a 'shill' as well?

http://www.thepokerbank.com/articles/online/rigged/
BattleGrind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 09:46 PM   #53253
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 7,465
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Unless they write braindead nonsense like "all sites are rigged the same" or "the rig is obvious", they're shills.

You're welcome.
otatop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 10:15 PM   #53254
enthusiast
 
Shill This U Fools's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 88
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Quote:
Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged View Post
If you keep playing after cashing out, the profit you had will eventually be funneled back into the site plus more. As you will get mainly suck outs, no hands at all, etc. The rebuy is a very important to these sites, as is deposits of course. By manipulating the deal to create this, it prevents players from taking large amounts out of the site, and passes it to newer players to get them hooked. The cycle repeats itself over and over.
Very short explanation i know, but Ive gone through this so many times.
Obviously theres more to it. But this gives you an idea.
Let me ad for our uninformed guest if you don't mind Mr. BR, Online poker sites are cheating because someone is winning on rigged hands; it just means that they (the greedy scum running the sites) defeat the edge that presumably guys like me and you would have against newbies and other reckless or unsophisticated or non-shrewd players and don't forget they have the greatest software a system designed to encourage poor and below average players to continue playing would very much benefit a poker web site and would not need to mark each individual player as either "good" or "bad".

The system or software can handicap who is "good" or who is "bad". The site's software only needs to systematically provide miracle turn and river outs that would never or rarely happen in real poker. The players who would be the recipients of these magic bad beats would obviously be the players who made bad decisions. Instead of losing because of their mistakes and allowing good players to benefit from exploiting those mistakes, the software would and as you have experienced bail's them out.

In a nutshell shady investors partnered with software programers took a look at a poker society that loves action and excitement. No one likes the defensive-oriented team that grinds out wins. They want the high-powered offense that scores big. Likewise, most people are not going to be happy playing in poker games where they have to fold 80% of their hands and often win uncontested pots when they raise with good cards. They want showdowns and big twists. They want big hands being beat by bigger hands being beat by huge hands all decided by the river. EUREKA!!! A CON IS BORN!

I'm no statistics guru, but it seems to me that the argument that more bad players equates to more bad beats doesn't make sense. I would think that more bad players should mean more reward for those who play correctly.

That never seems to be the case.
Shill This U Fools is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 10:22 PM   #53255
enthusiast
 
Shill This U Fools's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 88
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Quote:
Originally Posted by BattleGrind View Post
Does anybody agree with these points made by this site against rigging or perhaps they might be a 'shill' as well?

http://www.thepokerbank.com/articles/online/rigged/
LOL you expect them to bite the hand that feed's them they have affiliate links to:
Pokerstars, Aced poker, BoDog, BetSafe etc...
Shill This U Fools is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 10:31 PM   #53256
banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,604
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shill This U Fools View Post
Let me ad for our uninformed guest if you don't mind Mr. BR, Online poker sites are cheating because someone is winning on rigged hands; it just means that they (the greedy scum running the sites) defeat the edge that presumably guys like me and you would have against newbies and other reckless or unsophisticated or non-shrewd players and don't forget they have the greatest software a system designed to encourage poor and below average players to continue playing would very much benefit a poker web site and would not need to mark each individual player as either "good" or "bad".

The system or software can handicap who is "good" or who is "bad". The site's software only needs to systematically provide miracle turn and river outs that would never or rarely happen in real poker. The players who would be the recipients of these magic bad beats would obviously be the players who made bad decisions. Instead of losing because of their mistakes and allowing good players to benefit from exploiting those mistakes, the software would and as you have experienced bail's them out.

In a nutshell shady investors partnered with software programers took a look at a poker society that loves action and excitement. No one likes the defensive-oriented team that grinds out wins. They want the high-powered offense that scores big. Likewise, most people are not going to be happy playing in poker games where they have to fold 80% of their hands and often win uncontested pots when they raise with good cards. They want showdowns and big twists. They want big hands being beat by bigger hands being beat by huge hands all decided by the river. EUREKA!!! A CON IS BORN!

I'm no statistics guru, but it seems to me that the argument that more bad players equates to more bad beats doesn't make sense. I would think that more bad players should mean more reward for those who play correctly.

That never seems to be the case.
And again, bottom line the deal is manipulated. The shills can twist, deflect and say whatever they want, But when these things happen to everyone except a very small chosen few, its not a coincidence.
Word of advice, direct the truth to the thread in general, not at the shills. Its defeats the purpose.
blatantlyrigged is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 10:32 PM   #53257
banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,604
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shill This U Fools View Post
LOL you expect them to bite the hand that feed's them they have affiliate links to:
Pokerstars, Aced poker, BoDog, BetSafe etc...
Exactly.
blatantlyrigged is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 10:53 PM   #53258
grinder
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 616
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Quote:
Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged View Post
And again, bottom line the deal is manipulated. The shills can twist, deflect and say whatever they want, But when these things happen to everyone except a very small chosen few, its not a coincidence.
Word of advice, direct the truth to the thread in general, not at the shills. Its defeats the purpose.
No one has twisted, or deflected anything here, except for you.

Do you know the difference between a claim and evidence?
NewDawnFades is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 11:00 PM   #53259
veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: In the wires
Posts: 2,335
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shill This U Fools View Post
I'm no statistics guru...
say it ain't so
NewOldGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 11:05 PM   #53260
enthusiast
 
Shill This U Fools's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 88
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Quote:
Originally Posted by otatop View Post
Unless they write braindead nonsense like "all sites are rigged the same" or "the rig is obvious", they're shills.

You're welcome.
I hear you were born on April 2; a day too late!
Shill This U Fools is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 11:15 PM   #53261
enthusiast
 
Shill This U Fools's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 88
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewDawnFades View Post
No one has twisted, or deflected anything here, except for you.

Do you know the difference between a claim and evidence?
Yes you shill-turds make claims based on a couple of players hand history's that constitutes your so called supreme evidence that on line poker sites are legit that's why people like you are the reason they made the morning after pill.
Shill This U Fools is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 11:20 PM   #53262
enthusiast
 
Shill This U Fools's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 88
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewDawnFades View Post
Love the non sequitur insult.
How many times do I have to flush to get rid of you Fades? Oh I forgot to mention my shift is over have a good day noobs!

Last edited by Shill This U Fools; 06-06-2012 at 11:22 PM. Reason: shift change
Shill This U Fools is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2012, 12:22 AM   #53263
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 7,465
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Can you dip****s at least try to be entertaining when you make your hackish troll posts?
otatop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2012, 03:43 AM   #53264
centurion
 
filhodamae's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 185
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shill This U Fools View Post
How many times do I have to flush to get rid of you Fades? Oh I forgot to mention my shift is over have a good day noobs!
Tompakee?
filhodamae is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2012, 04:34 AM   #53265
banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,604
Re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Quote:
Originally Posted by filhodamae View Post
Tompakee?
Im thinking its this A---- dork.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shill This U Fools View Post
Yes you shill-turds make claims based on a couple of players hand history's that constitutes your so called supreme evidence that on line poker sites are legit that's why people like you are the reason they made the morning after pill.
+1

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shill This U Fools View Post
How many times do I have to flush to get rid of you Fades? Oh I forgot to mention my shift is over have a good day noobs!
Youre going to need a plunger! This site defender just wont go down!
blatantlyrigged is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive