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Originally Posted by PLAYOFFS
life is rigged, get over it
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OMG! An online poker is rigged thread! David Huber DOES NOT allow such things in other places and times. I cannot speak about FTP, as I just have started there, nut I am an authority about ULTIMATE BET based on some low limit tournament grinding I have done there lately.
(NOV 01-SEP 07) 3044 Tournaments - $12.71 Ave.Buyin - 50.29 % ROI
Ten months of heavy play, 7 TLB wins and $9900 profit on the TLB promotion, and a net of $34K. My strategy was to eliminate variance and multi-table tournaments to break even or win. My biggest losing month? $2100 and my best month was over $10,000. I also have nearly 20000 hours of live experience before I found online poker. May I speak? From a grinding perspective?
Is it rigged? How is it rigged? Is UB tournament programming rigged? Does FTP tournaments play out similarly? What are the differences and similarities between FTP and AP/UB and PS? Is the live play experience necessary to see programming tendencies that exist in low limit MTTs? Topics should include alternate periods, rebuy and bounty play, blind play, bubble play, small stack attacks, and ‘making your opponent laydown’. Basically, I altered my play due to the programming and changed my deposit and withdrawal methods also. I’m not the only UB tournament player that was doing these things. Many theories abound... If I thought we could have a discussion about this subject, it could have maybe been constructive. <post tinfoil hat now>
03-03-2008, 12:15 PM
BY: degeneratedonk - Guest
Disclaimer: Don't even attempt to read this if you're under the age of 25 because you're lost. There are those of us suspicious that Stars, among other sites, may be using some sort of coding in their Software/RNG/Algorithm to ensure that bad players, AKA fish, are catching more cards than they should in their ongoing pot-odds disdaining odysseys. The motivation for such an outright hustle and fraud--would be two-fold:
1. To ensure plenty of funds continue to circulate at the low stakes where most of the "fish" play, rather than be withdrawn by the grinds who tend not to engage in hot pursuit of the case ace
2. To ensure those fish have long life so the largest school of them generate the highest possible rake out of those recirculated funds already chopped.
Personally I believe if any shenanigans are in play, it's strictly at the low stakes; Anyway this is just a THEORY, not an outright ACCUSATION, and there is unfortunately no way to prove or disprove anything of this nature, the main reason being for as long as they've been in operation all of the major sites have declined to open their servers and software to scrutiny by a viable third-party auditor/watch dog. But heck, don't take my word for it, ask our resident consumer advocate Michael Josem about this. He put up a whole website on the subject (and shortly thereafter was hired by Poker Stars).
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Originally Posted by NoLimitLeagues
the majority of 2p2ers act like its impossible that the sites rig their RNGs.
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Ask self! ‘Self, wouldn’t I be more surprised that online RNGs were ‘on the level’ as opposed to NOT being on the level. AND so mote it be…
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