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10-23-2007, 02:53 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: FTP STOLE MY MONEY
Posts: 137
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Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
I was booted off FT last Friday,Oct12th 10:15 pm. I received a letter stating that my account was suspended following a 96 hour investigation of my “table play”. I sent off a round of letters expressing my dissatisfaction. I was assured by Jeremy E. that this would be dealt with as soon as possible. I received another letter, Four days later, asking my for ID, such as a drivers license and electric bill of which I sent in promptly along with my bank account statement and passport . This was a week ago that they received my info.
I sent off another letter to Jeremy E. (by the way, I love how they ask for all of my personal information, and yet I correspond with a site I have NO IDEA where they are located and with a guy who won’t sign his last name) asking that he please unfreeze my account as I have complied with his wishes.
Today is Tues. Oct.23rd. It has been 11 DAYS since they froze my account. They have given me NO explanations as to why they have suspended my account other then they are compiling information. I have almost $47,000 in my FullTIlt account that I am unable to access.
My name is pokergirl z. Many of you know me either through this site or others. Some of you have met me personally. While I’m not a big poster on 2+2 , I have been a big presence on the High stakes heads up tables for well over 5 years.
In all my years of online gaming, this is the first time I’ve EVER had my account suspended for any reason.
Considering the bad press that online gaming is receiving these days I really hate to add fuel to the fire. Fulltilt has said that they “understand the position that this has put on me and others in”.
Has any one here in the forum had their accounts suspended? If so , what was the reason for the suspension and how was it resolved?
It puts us all in a precarious situation because if they decide they want to freeze your account or take your bankroll they can do as they please without any explanation or provocation. One of the only ways a player can really fight back is by posting their experiences.
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10-23-2007, 03:02 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chi imo
Posts: 25,336
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
well, anything you could be doing to set off alarm bells? Because they prob aren't doing this to simply smite you
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10-23-2007, 03:03 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: MoneyTown
Posts: 594
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
That. Really. Bites.
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10-23-2007, 03:11 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: FTP STOLE MY MONEY
Posts: 137
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
First off, I play there every single day. Last friday nite was just like any other. It's a reasonable question and as I stated they frooze my acount with no provocation. AND NO EXPLANATION. Other than they were investigating my "table play". Jeremy e. keeps apologizing for the inconveniencethis has put on me in, yet gives me no explanation as to why this has happened.
This is my warning to you all. I used to think that if a site freezes your money or takes away your bankroll that they had reason to do so. I'm here to tell you. I no longer believe that. You won't either if it happens to you.
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10-23-2007, 03:18 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 9,269
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
If you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about. Unfortunately there are so many people pulling scams on sites. Something brought you to security's attention. It could have been a transfer to or from someone who committed fraud, a friend who logged on from your machine once and then did something, someone you beat might have had charge-backs etc. As long as you know you didn't do anything then you'll be fine. It could take some time though. I'd expect to be locked out for at least 3 weeks, Which sucks but don't blame the sites blame the losers who try to defraud sites.
They can't give you any explanation. It is very frustrating but until they are sure you were not involved and are just collateral damage giving out information will just educate people who scam sites.
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10-23-2007, 03:23 PM
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Badugi Bob
Join Date: May 2006
Location: My H & F thread. 222 -> 198 -> ???
Posts: 16,919
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
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I'd expect to be locked out for at least 3 weeks, Which sucks but don't blame the sites blame the losers who try to defraud sites.
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True to an extent. The losers are the ones that cause the sites to investigate accounts, but that does NOT excuse FT for being so slow and non-communicative, something they are notorious for during these investigations.
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10-23-2007, 03:25 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 20,197
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
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by the way, I love how they ask for all of my personal information, and yet I correspond with a site I have NO IDEA where they are located and with a guy who won’t sign his last name
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You can find out where they are located, and lol
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10-23-2007, 03:32 PM
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Grinding
Posts: 895
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
im going to go out on some wild speculation and ask
Did you do lots of P2P transfers for people.
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10-23-2007, 03:43 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: arguing the Comcast
Posts: 3,758
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
What games do you play? Recently play a drunk dude who donked off 5 buyins? You probably played someone who did a cc chargeback, and they have to decide if you were involved. My guess is that you were playing HU. Nothing you can do except volunteer info which may expediate the process (I.D.). You'll get your money back if you did nothing wrong.
Edit: Or you did some transfers with scammers.
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10-23-2007, 03:53 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,220
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
I've played with pokergirl z - plays the mid-high limit HU tables all the time. From what I understand, they've been busting bots all over the place in those games (I'm sure you got a hefty refund in the last batch?). Maybe they suspect you are involved in it somehow, or perhaps you beat Gatorade out of a bit too much and he reported you.
Keep fighting the good fight and I'm reasonably confident it will all be resolved for you (assuming you're innocent).
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10-23-2007, 04:33 PM
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old hand
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,324
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
While I don't play high limit I knew I recognized that screen name from the past but it took me a moment. So is this event worse than losing 20k to Jimmywins88?
BO
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10-23-2007, 04:58 PM
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Double Carpal Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: In cyberspace, no-one can hear your
Posts: 7,140
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
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I have been a big presence on the High stakes heads up tables for well over 5 years
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Just to add that Sillysal was around in the days of the huge WSEX battles.
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10-23-2007, 05:37 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 28
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
If you can answer the following questions, I might be able to give you some better insight into your account investigation and as to what they are actually examining right now.
How long have you played on Full Tilt?
Do you always play high stakes HU matches?
Did you recently make any credit card deposits?
Also, check your HH and see if there have been any new and erratic players that have recently lost a lot to you. You might be the victim of a chip dump and be completely unaware of it.
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10-23-2007, 05:46 PM
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adept
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 942
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
why don't you ever play 3 handed on wsex... it really weirds me out that when some1 interrupts your hu match with a giant giant fish you won't play 3handed... it honestly makes me wonder if you use some kind of program for hu play. I am not accusing you and sillysal on wsex is a good hu player but the fact you won't play 3 handed ever gives me weird vibes.
Anyways, regardless if you've done nothing wrong, it is ridiculous to have been locked out of your account with no explanation for this long.
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10-23-2007, 05:46 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 7,051
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
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I'd expect to be locked out for at least 3 weeks, Which sucks but don't blame the sites blame the losers who try to defraud sites.
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You may think you are defending FTP and other poker rooms, but in fact "don't blame the sites" is one of the most damning things you can say about FTP and online poker in general.
Saying FTP is 'not to blame' is another way of saying they aren't responsible. The same way a 4-year-old child is not responsible. As in FTP accepts $47000 bankrolls and then is not responsible for what happens next.
No one wants to trust significant sums of money to a business that isn't responsible. FTP suspended OP's account and FTP must be responsible for their actions. Otherwise they aren't a real business.
PS: Let me be clear that I have no opinion about OP's problem. I don't know why FTP suspended her account or why it is taking so long to resolve. I'm just tired of the 'dog-ate-my-homework' attitude constantly expressed by so many apologists for online poker. OP is the customer and FTP is the alleged responsible business holding her money. FTP needs to answer to her for its actions. It doesn't matter what her opponents did, what Gatorade said, how overworked their staff is, or anything else. FTP has frozen her money for a long time and they should have a legitimate reason. Otherwise they owe her an apology and compensation for all the trouble they caused her.
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