Just to kind of shed some historical light on this matter. This happened to me personally in 2009. I had an outstanding deposit using eCheck (or whatever it was back then) to fund my FTP account. The deposit was for around $120 give or take a few bucks. To this day, and its been well over a year now, FTP has still NOT taken the money out of my account.

Not sure if I hit a 2 outer on the river with that one or what, but thats what has happened. Right now, I have approx. $800-$900 worth of outstanding deposits through QuickDeposit with FTP, dating back over 50 days now, and nothing has come out of my account. The downside to my situation this time is that I still have $2500 out of $3500 worth of withdrawals outstanding with FTP dating back over a month now.

Normally, I'd be just fine w/ the situation, but when it gets flipped around the other way, it sucks.

Thats my 2 cents though.

Uh.... how come some drug dealers are more reliable than others? These processors are breaking US FEDERAL ****ING LAW to process your deposit. If you think about that sentence for a few seconds, you should be able to come up with numerous reasons for why there are problems. Respectfully, get your head out of your ass.

If WA starts coming after players I'm going to be so bummed out.

look into the fair debt collection act. there's limitations on when they can take money. maybe worth taking a couple hundred from your stash and asking an attorney.

they are dude. read the news. and its not WA it's the feds

I am in a similar position as several of the posters here and I have been through this before when Neteller and Partypoker pulled out of the US.

I currently have approximately $4,500 in pending echecks spread over 20 transactions. In my case I have a debit card fraud issue that forced my echeck linked bank account to be closed last week. I have deposits dating back to late October. 5 echeck transactions posted in December through 21payments but that's it. FTP has been non-responsive about the issue for 2 months.

They are definitely not taking an aggressive tone regarding collection yet. Maybe it is due to the overwhelming volume of accounts in this situation or maybe because the echecks haven't yet bounced since they have not been presented to the the closed bank account.

I was in a similar situation when Party Poker pulled out of the US and Neteller got hammered and shut down for US transactions. I had $2,000 in pending uncleared transactions at the time which they could not present to my bank. I got 2 calls and 2 emails from Neteller collections asking me to send a cashier's check for the $2k. I offered to do so if the transactions did not clear within 90 days and they agreed. The $2k never cleared. I called after 90 days to get a mailing address and they would not provide me any info and would not accept the $2k from anyone in the US so i got lucky. No further ramifications other than a few small gaming sites will not allow my deposits any longer.

If this is a similar situation where the 3rd party processors are permanently screwed and FTP can't process the echecks I think it very unlikely that those who choose to stiff Full Tilt will ever be seriously collected upon. However, if this issue gets rectified in the US and they experience mass echeck chargebacks (which looks very possible) the most likely outcome is that we will get contacted by FTP to try to make good on our balances. If we don't do that, we will be forwarded to an aggressive collection company that will come after us as much as they can but their options will be limited to scare tactics and possible credit reporting. The credit dings will be disputable since they will not be able to prove the debt and the info will probably be removable with effort but it will be a headache. It's also very likely that once a collection company gets involved that you would be able to settle for far less than the full balance. If you can settle a $3k balance for $1k and have the problem go away then why not take a shot?

I'm not judging anyone's choice on the issue. If someone chooses to stiff the poker site and take their chances regarding their credit and possible reporting to Chex Systems (where it may be very tough to open a bank account later) then good luck to them. Are they welchers? Of course. But no more so than all the people out there declaring bankrupcy, modifying mortgages, getting foreclosed on, etc. I'm personally going to contact FTP IF the echecks ever post and pay what I owe. For me $4,500 is not worth the time or risk to my credit but for those who are willing to take the risk and don't care about never playing at FTP or using an Echeck again I think they are going to get off pretty clean.

Anyone know ftp's status on deposit withdrawals? I still have deposits from over a month ago that haven't cleared.

Whats to stop a player from making a deposit and raping ftp real quick and then withdrawing and closing their bank account since it seems they have close to a month window to do so?

Do withdrawals from ftp take just as long?

Both deposits and withdrawals have been a mess for the past three months. There are multiple long threads on the topics. Read them if you are really interested.

Turn on the doomswitch

I am having a similar problem. My bank made a mistake last April and closed my account due to ATM error. After I had many transfers in and out come though later after it was reopened, I mistakenly told them I was using the account for poker and they closed the account. I now have two outstanding echecks of 200 hundred each. I contacted them and received no response and my account is still active. What are the next steps I should take. I have since stopped playing there and will only use Stars but I am most concerned they will wake up one day and shut down accounts of people I have traded funds with, and with out notice, leaving me looking like an idiot.

They're still using MAS, I have 4-5 deposits from January processed by MAS, obv. not removed from bank account. 21debit hasnt been used for my deposits since December, guess they got a few through (one for me out of 5 total) but the rest remain in limbo.

Emailed them over the weekend and received standard form letter reply.

Yeah this is getting really annoying....Ive got about $2,000 in deposits sitting in my account and one $100 withdrawal im waiting on, don't know what to do but im definitely getting agitated at the whole situation.

Really odd business model I like it.
I deposit, it never reaches my bank account
and at the same time they do prompt cashouts

it's just semi-annoying not having my bank account reflect the real balance but as long as they keep doing quick cashouts I don't mind

your friend is a scumbag and a thief.

I've always used quick deposit to put money on full tilt in the past, but have tried every day for the past week using this method and no luck.

Are people just having problems with the deposits not being taken from their bank accounts, or are people having problems actually depositing money through quickdeposit like i am?

MY FRIEND LOST 18-20K DOING JUST THAT, OVER A 3 WEEK PERIOD. HE CLOSED THE BANK ACCOUNT LINKED TO THE FTP ACCOUNT. HIS DRUG OF CHOICE WAS 10-20 PLO.

Your "friend" is a douche and every player on FTP is going to have to pay to make up for that little freeroll.

just read whole thread...WTF is with some of u posters depositing 20x in a month or two(i get it ur degens), but why do so many posters have like 5-10 check withdrawals ur waiting on...why not wait til its a substantial amount of $ and then withdraw one time...thats prob a decent reason that checks take so long bc u guys take out $100 checks 5 seperate times instead of just withdrawing 1 check for $500

I personally deposited maybe 6 times on ftp in december and january and that was to play some higher buy in mtts and invest in some players/ enter tlb contests. As far as cashing out i used ftps premium bank wire and i recently got a call from my bank saying if i get one more wire from ftp they will close my account down. So hopefully they solve these deposit issues and i get debited before the bank does something drastic

Havent played on FTP since my last uncleared deposit which was waaaaaaay

back on 11/21/10.

Emailed them and no response from support either!

Bye bye FTP and bye bye Stars....I was slowly bleeding on both for awhile now anyway.

FYP

You think when they do finally take it it is based on date? It seems a little unfair that if you deposited $3000 in $200-$500 increments over a few months time that they will take it all at once rather than based on the dates you did it at; such as $200, then $300 a week later, then $300 3 weeks later, like that.

E-mailed FT support today to ask if eCheck quick deposit is still available to US players in my state (missouri) and got a form letter e-mail:





Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.

We're committed to assisting our American players and understand that developments
regarding online gaming have been a major inconvenience. We are working to expand
our deposit and withdrawal options to include more payment methods that are
available to players in the U.S.

Please note that these developments do not affect the money in your Full Tilt Poker
account. Your funds are safe, secure, and available for you to use at our tables or
withdraw at any time.

To see the payment processor options available to you, please visit
http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/payprocess.php

Quick Deposit is the most reliable method to deposit funds on Full Tilt Poker and
the one that is the most popular amongst US players.

We appreciate your continued support, and if you have any questions, please feel
free to contact us.


Regards,

Teodora
Full Tilt Poker Support

I don't understand this line of thinking. If you deposited money onto FT out of your checking account...treat like it's gone from your checking account. Doesn't anyone reconcile their checking account anymore? Obviously stop being a moron and depositing money that you don't have in your account. Easy solution.

Also to the people trying to get out of paying for the deposits that you have already presumably lost...you are ridiculous. You would certainly raise hell if FT tried to cheat you out of money so why would you do that to them? Morons.

So it's OK for FT to MAKE YOU pay the WU/MO/WT surcharge and go out of your way physically to reconcile what was obviously a problem on their end of the system which they should have either stopped before it became a problem or given an alternate method which has no additional cost to the consumer and makes you jump through no extra hoops (or very few at least). All of this is assuming of course that you had the funds available in your bank acc. and intended to make payment (which I think accounts for probably 99 percent of those complaining).

Seems a bit unfair to me at least.

i totally agree that it is wrong and the legit players will have to pay for it in the long run. i have tried to encourage him to make good but he says **** them they make enough money...