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05-14-2008, 01:36 PM
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#1171
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stranger
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 14
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
Do you enjoy your job as a customer service rep at FTP?
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05-14-2008, 01:39 PM
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#1172
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: snap a neck for sum live efx
Posts: 510
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
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But to some, who are not so fortunate, and live pay check to paycheck and have waited a month for payment it does matter.
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This is ridiculous. What if breakeven for a month (or more!) or go on a huge downswing? Are you homeless? Cant eat? Putting yourself in this situation as a "professional" poker player is extremely irresponsible and simply dumb.
You should be fully aware that things like this can and do happen in the today's world of online poker. Think about Neteller, PP pulling out or more recently the debacle over at microgaming.
You guys act like FT is trying to pull a fast one on you guys and run off with your money-- this is not the case.
edit:
screwftp,
my name is Richard. I am not rich. :sad:
SellingSand,
Stop typing with your face.
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05-14-2008, 01:40 PM
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#1173
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stranger
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 14
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
You are exactly right. I just went online to try and contact Howard Ledered. I can't find his email address anywhere.
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05-14-2008, 01:41 PM
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#1174
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enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 63
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
Here's my reply from the PPA(btw, no money for me yet either):
Hi David,
The PPA has gotten involved in this and contacted both sites about the issue. We have an excellent relationship with both sites, and have seen enough documentation as well as progress to believe that both sites are working diligently to resolve this issue. We at the PPA have no reason to not take these two sites at there word, because they have together been the leader in the industry for high standards and customer support and I have seen nothing to the contrary to change my mind on that.
Bryan Spadaro
Membership Relations, Manager
Poker Players Alliance
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05-14-2008, 01:42 PM
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#1175
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stranger
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 14
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
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Originally Posted by ImRich
This is ridiculous. What if breakeven for a month (or more!) or go on a huge downswing? Are you homeless? Cant eat? Putting yourself in this situation as a "professional" poker player is extremely irresponsible and simply dumb.
You should be fully aware that things like this can and do happen in the today's world of online poker. Think about Neteller, PP pulling out or more recently the debacle over at microgaming.
You guys act like FT is trying to pull a fast one on you guys and run off with your money-- this is not the case.
edit:
screwftp,
my name is Richard. I am not rich. :sad:
SellingSand,
Stop typing with your face.
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You should be fully aware that things like this can and do happen in the today's world of online poker. Think about Neteller, PP pulling out or more recently the debacle over at microgaming.
You guys act like FT is trying to pull a fast one on you guys and run off with your money-- this is not the case
I'm assumming you are willilng to personally guarantee FTP's financial situation since you already have your nose up their ass?
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05-14-2008, 01:42 PM
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#1176
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veteran
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,045
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
You are exactly right. I just went online to try and contact Howard Ledered. I can't find his email address anywhere.
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Well no ****, people like you are the reason you can't find his e-mail address.
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05-14-2008, 01:43 PM
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#1177
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: snap a neck for sum live efx
Posts: 510
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
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I'm assumming you are willilng to personally guarantee FTP's financial situation since you already have your nose up their ass?
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yeah sure.
you have my personal guarantee.
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05-14-2008, 01:45 PM
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#1178
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stranger
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 14
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
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Originally Posted by early325
Well no ****, people like you are the reason you can't find his e-mail address.
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Well keep sending him your money d...head!
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05-14-2008, 01:51 PM
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#1179
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Badugi Bob
Join Date: May 2006
Location: My H & F thread. 222 -> 198 -> ???
Posts: 16,920
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
I understand why so many of you are pissed off. I just don't see what good a lot of this crap is doing anybody:
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
I'm not expecting anything other than more lies from these crooks. They are still able to take money but paying out is the problem. Look for a bankruptcy note in your inbox is my bet and I'm All In that FTP is All Out!
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
I have contacted the Kahnawake Gaming Commission in Canada. Hopefully, they are catching some flack for Full Tilt making the decision to steal money. Have you contacted them yet?
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
In the next 7 days. May 23rd is 9 days. I don't understand this new math. Maybe it's the new math from lying crooks!
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
What are you smoking? I sure would like some to make me dellusional like you. Keep in mine, these are crooks we are dealing with not brain surgeons.
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You seem pretty certain they have stolen your money. I've never seen them tell anyone they plan on keeping it - do you have some information to the contrary? Slow to pay, bad CS? Yes. Shady? Perhaps. Crooks? A little premature, IMO.
Then we have this:
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
Do you enjoy your job as a customer service rep at FTP?
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
since you already have your nose up their ass?
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
Well keep sending him your money d...head!
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Nice.
Finally:
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
Latest / Greatest Idea. I'm going to log in to FTP and do a cut and paste as an observer informing active players that FTP isn't paying their clients. We can cut and paste this URL. If we all do likewise, they are going to have to start doing some damage control.
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
I login(ed) to FTP as an observer and went to each running game. I did a note in Microsoft Word and then did a cut and paste. I went to each game, clicked in the chat area and hit enter. The following message went to all the players at each game. I'm doing it again in 2 hours and 2 hours, etc.
It read as follows:
FTP is All Out! I requested a $500 withdrawal on April 16th and have received no money. Visit website http://www.gambling911.com/Full-Tilt...out-Complaints to view hundreds of complaints about FTP. Try and withdraw your money and see the problem firsthand.
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
I communicated my cut and paste to thousands of players at FTP.
I just went online to send my message again only to have a note that said:
"We're sorry, but your chat is not currently active. Please contact customer support for assistance."
I recommend others doing the same to get the message out to active players. Make 'em cut us off one at a time or else pay the players!
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I admire your tenacity, but if pushed too far this could result in your account being locked, and I really don't think it's going to get your money back any faster.
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05-14-2008, 01:53 PM
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#1180
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stranger
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 14
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
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Originally Posted by ImRich
what is the point of this? oh thats right, its pointless. do you think they want to piss off they customers and not pay them in a timely fashion?
i hope they close your account.
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They don't have to. I've already abandoned it. After all, if they get caught lying about when my money is supposed to arrive after 3 times, I am smart enough to figure out that it's history and so is my playing there. I just want others to be aware of what is going to happen to them also.
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05-14-2008, 01:57 PM
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#1181
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veteran
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,045
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
They don't have to. I've already abandoned it. After all, if they get caught lying about when my money is supposed to arrive after 3 times, I am smart enough to figure out that it's history and so is my playing there. I just want others to be aware of what is going to happen to them also.
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I truly hope you don't get your money.
edit: Because then you'd have an excuse for being a douche.
Last edited by early325; 05-14-2008 at 01:57 PM.
Reason: because i'm not a hater
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05-14-2008, 01:58 PM
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#1182
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stranger
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 14
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I understand why so many of you are pissed off. I just don't see what good a lot of this crap is doing anybody:
You seem pretty certain they have stolen your money. I've never seen them tell anyone they plan on keeping it - do you have some information to the contrary? Slow to pay, bad CS? Yes. Shady? Perhaps. Crooks? A little premature, IMO.
Then we have this:
Nice.
Finally:
I admire your tenacity, but if pushed too far this could result in your account being locked, and I really don't think it's going to get your money back any faster.
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Thanks for your sound advice. However, the point remains that I have been lied to on 3 separate occasions from FTP. I'm not worried about being "locked out". I don't intend on playing there ever again anyway.
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05-14-2008, 02:12 PM
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#1183
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: getting leveled
Posts: 269
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
So whats preventing FTP, 9 days from now, saying that they are super-duper absolutely positively mega sure that the money will be here in another 9-14 days? After that it will be 3-5 months and so on. They might not be crooks yet but they are confirmed LIARS.
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05-14-2008, 02:36 PM
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#1184
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grinder
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 645
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
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Originally Posted by SellingSand
They don't have to. I've already abandoned it. After all, if they get caught lying about when my money is supposed to arrive after 3 times, I am smart enough to figure out that it's history and so is my playing there. I just want others to be aware of what is going to happen to them also.
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I'll offer you 10-1 that you get your $.
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05-14-2008, 02:39 PM
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#1185
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veteran
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,045
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Re: Full Tilt bank xfers
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Originally Posted by sondring
I'll offer you 10-1 that you get your $.
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lol scame
i'll offer 15-1
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