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Sure FTP sucks, but why blame Doug? You really think he's sitting on your cash or has info as to the exact date you'll be paid but is hiding that from us?

Doug, those of us with a clue appreciate your presence here even when the update isn't what we really want to hear.

his threads offer nothing, there shouldn't be announcements that they're making an announcement and then have that announcement be absolutely ****ing nothing but stalling

then he disappears and doesn't post anything til the next time ftp wants to stall with another ridiculous OP

**** doug

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05-30-2011 , 07:49 PM

#127

Go Get It

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 12,506

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Originally Posted by mersenneary

Because PokerStars did and it's the industry standard to.

Again, as I said, that would be the honorable thing to do, but at the very least, people who could use carte blanche should still be able to use carte blanche. They can nit us up about rewards that require gameplay to clear, but that's the line between extremely nitty and scummy.

Not trying to argue with you, and I totally agree that PS did it and it would be the "right" thing to do.

FTP clearly won't do what's right here though.

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05-30-2011 , 07:49 PM

#128

lostone1

banned

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 28

i say fire doug and start saving his pay checks to pay us back

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05-30-2011 , 07:51 PM

#129

JoeSchmo

adept

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,126

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Originally Posted by mersenneary

FTPDoug,

Thanks for the update. I would like to continue to demand that we able to use our Full Tilt Points in whatever manner that we could before Black Friday. No update regarding this is still disturbing. At best (if you went by the PokerStars standard, anyway), we should be able to receive cash (en lieu of bonuses that required gameplay), but at the very least, all players who were able to use carte blanche should still be able to use carte blanche. I would still strongly recommend that you go buy the PokerStars standard and pay everybody what they are worth, but cutting the value of the points in half and forcing people to buy merchandise would be a scummy bait and switch.

Emphatically agree.

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05-30-2011 , 07:51 PM

#130

VLADEdivac

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Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 212

doug is there any chance we can add some $1.50/$3 cap tables?

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05-30-2011 , 07:51 PM

#131

joeyrulesall

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,532

what's the legal extent of what u can do to harass ftp pros at the rail of tournies? i don't wanna do anything that'll get me arrested but i wanna do as much as i can to make them uncomfortable. if any of these *******s have the nerve to show up wearing ftp gear, that would just be way too tilting

Ill be there saturday. Ill let you know how far they let me go. I cant wait to tell some of these guys what i think of them. I hope everyone who is speaking out in these threads and is in vegas does the same.

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05-30-2011 , 07:51 PM

#132

Ur Phate

newbie

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 21

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Originally Posted by Dr_Zoidberg

what's the legal extent of what u can do to harass ftp pros at the rail of tournies? i don't wanna do anything that'll get me arrested but i wanna do as much as i can to make them uncomfortable. if any of these *******s have the nerve to show up wearing ftp gear, that would just be way too tilting

his threads offer nothing, there shouldn't be announcements that they're making an announcement and then have that announcement be absolutely ****ing nothing but stalling

then he disappears and doesn't post anything til the next time ftp wants to stall with another ridiculous OP

**** doug

I intend to confront every person wearing FTP gear, esp patched up pros and ask how they can disrespect US players.

I will ask anyone wearing AP/UB gear to step outside.

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05-30-2011 , 07:51 PM

#133

AUGUY55

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Originally Posted by lostone1

i say fire doug and start saving his pay checks to pay us back

Don't shoot the messenger. Doug is not to blame here. Lucky enough to get anything from FTP at the moment, even though it's obviously not what anyone wanted to hear.

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05-30-2011 , 07:52 PM

#134

CigarMike

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 822

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Originally Posted by lostone1

i say fire doug and start saving his pay checks to pay us back

I thought FTPdoug was replaced by FTPdave?,

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05-30-2011 , 07:53 PM

#135

DaycareInferno

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Originally Posted by VLADEdivac

doug is there any chance we can add some $1.50/$3 cap tables?

poty

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05-30-2011 , 07:53 PM

#136

Lrgetrout

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 537

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Originally Posted by CigarMike

I thought FTPdoug was replaced by FTPdave?,

It was FTPSean that was replaced by Dave.

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05-30-2011 , 07:53 PM

#137

BigBiceps

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This looks real bad now.

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05-30-2011 , 07:54 PM

#138

lostone1

banned

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 28

why pay the employees if they cant pay the customers

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05-30-2011 , 07:54 PM

#139

coinflipper

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so many uneducated babies itt

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05-30-2011 , 07:54 PM

#140

JoeSchmo

adept

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,126

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Originally Posted by Dr_Zoidberg

I'm sure you and everyone else would be going bananas if you hadn't heard a word from FTP since 4/15 and rightfully so. Wtf do you really expect Doug to do? Never post here? Lie and make up a date when you'll be paid? What are you looking for from the messenger?

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05-30-2011 , 07:55 PM

#141

philcski

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 319

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Originally Posted by gaboonviper

This may just be the truth but it took an attack from the DOJ to bring it out. Just like it took the financial crisis of 2008 to bring out the Madoff Ponzi scheme. Good luck to all you dudes with your $$ there. If you ever see any of it again it will be a miracle.

Agree 100%.

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Originally Posted by Solid up arrow

if you cant pay out because the DOJ seized $500 million from you then it is not a ponzi scheme. Charles Ponzi is spinning in his grave now because everytime there is any type of scandal the LAYMEN call it a ponzi scheme.

Wrong. The DOJ caused a run on the "bank" and exposed the fact that they never had the total deposits on hand. If they didn't have to pay it all out at once it would never have been a problem.
Ponzi scheme = needing new investors/depositors to pay back previous investors/depositors. Exactly what this scenario is.

You're calling the wrong guy a "LAYMAN".

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05-30-2011 , 07:55 PM

#142

kleinstein000

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,339

Like everyone else, I am frustrated at the fact this is another update giving no timeframe. I am very happy to see that Full Tilt acknowledges the fact that the silence on their part is bad. Hopefully that will change the way they have been handling these updates. Thanks for the update

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05-30-2011 , 07:56 PM

#143

NFuego20

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Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,295

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Originally Posted by synth_floyd

The fact that they need to "raise capital in order to payout the US players" means they never had all the money on them in the first place. Scary.

um no that's not what it means

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05-30-2011 , 07:56 PM

#144

SGT RJ

Twitching

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 49,109

Would love to know exactly what FTP means by "raising capital". Do they need to liquidate some investments, find someone to either purchase a part of the company or loan the company the money, or simply wait until they've earned enough from their remaining business to cover all US player deposits?

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05-30-2011 , 07:57 PM

#145

Dr_Zoidberg

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 279

doug: here's an idea for you

register the domain name "www.hasftpstartedcashingout2americans.com"

then just have the page be a white background with a black "NO" in the middle and change it to "YES!" whenever you're finally ready!

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05-30-2011 , 07:57 PM

#146

FA-DEED

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 483

**** ftp..this is bull ****...

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05-30-2011 , 07:57 PM

#147

fuzion2

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 131

My head just exploded.

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05-30-2011 , 07:58 PM

#148

TNixon

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Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,720

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Originally Posted by philcski

Ponzi scheme = needing new investors/depositors to pay back previous investors/depositors.

You might want to check your definitions again.

hint: there's another requirement for something to be a ponzi scheme, and that requirement hasn't been fulfilled.

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You're calling the wrong guy a "LAYMAN".

Why's that? You clearly are, and a misinformed one at that.

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05-30-2011 , 07:58 PM

#149

RosieTheGreat

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,192

Doug, how much do the have to pay you to come post this crap?

1*

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05-30-2011 , 07:59 PM

#150

Dr_Zoidberg

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 279

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Originally Posted by JoeSchmo

my expectation is for them not to build up their announcements then have them be absolute fail

how hard is it to say when they say they're gonna make an announcement on x date to just say "we're not ready to pay. will make a formal announcement on x date" instead of just teasing the possibility that maybe this will finally be the time

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