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Old 06-01-2011, 11:15 AM   #751
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Re: FTP US Player Update 5/30

To much trolls and other idiots in this topic imo.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:17 AM   #752
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Ivey is "the nuts".....I'll miss seeing him at the WSOP but what a great statement this man is making..........

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Oh yes, I can hardly hear amongst the sound of the silence breaking. wait what is he telling about? his attempt to sue him-self? Good luck getting paid by full tilt, full tilt....

I know, but its close enough!!
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:21 AM   #753
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Re: FTP US Player Update 5/30

EPIC

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Old 06-01-2011, 11:28 AM   #754
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Ok so I'm sorry for being a little cynical about this whole thing but I am a bit confused. First off, I do applaud Phil ivey if this whole thing is legit. However , and correct me ifI am wrong .. isn't Phil ivey a part owner of tilt ? And if so , what exactly is his lawsuit ? All he states is he has filed an electronic lawsuit. That really means nothing to me. And yea , in a way it kinda seems like he is suing himself. Please explain if I am completely missing something.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:29 AM   #755
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I don't understand why Poker Stars is able to get us our money but FTP can't.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:31 AM   #756
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actually made this thread worth opening
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:32 AM   #757
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I don't understand why Poker Stars is able to get us our money but FTP can't.
lol wow
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:36 AM   #758
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Ok so I'm sorry for being a little cynical about this whole thing but I am a bit confused. First off, I do applaud Phil ivey if this whole thing is legit. However , and correct me ifI am wrong .. isn't Phil ivey a part owner of tilt ? And if so , what exactly is his lawsuit ? All he states is he has filed an electronic lawsuit. That really means nothing to me. And yea , in a way it kinda seems like he is suing himself. Please explain if I am completely missing something.
"No matter how cynical I get, it's tough to keep up." Lily Tomlin.

People are getting hung up on the verbiage regarding "electronic filing." I think what he is trying to convey is that he filed suit and he did it in the most expeditious way that he could ie filed it electronically instead of having an attorney file at a courthouse.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:37 AM   #759
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lol wow
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:41 AM   #760
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"No matter how cynical I get, it's tough to keep up." Lily Tomlin.

People are getting hung up on the verbiage regarding "electronic filing." I think what he is trying to convey is that he filed suit and he did it in the most expeditious way that he could ie filed it electronically instead of having an attorney file at a courthouse.
I'm not getting caught up with the verbiage. O could care less how he files. I want to know what exactly he is suing his own company for ? For all we know iflt could be defamation of character and what does that do for us ?

Basically what I am saying is he actually trying to get is paid or is he simply attempting to rid himself of this disaster so that his name no longer gets dragged through the mud. Hopefully the former but who knows.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:41 AM   #761
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Great stuff. Very funny.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:43 AM   #762
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Sorry for going OT but am I the only one that when reading these types of posts wonders how that user is in real life?
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Do you think FTP wants this? Do you think FTP wouldn't protect itsself better if they got to do it over again?

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it's obvious that your not an adult yet. So ill explain...... Multi billion dollar corporations don't get to "do it over again!" that's why ceos of these companies get paid millions of dollars a year. because lots of lives are at stake both customer and employees.
When they ****up "that" bad it's almost always grossly negligent, usually for the long haul, And it always impacts thousands of lives.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:43 AM   #763
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Because Pokerstars had a LOT less money frozen because the accounts with player money were clearly separate from operating funds and were not in the name of the owner as FTP's money was and had some other protections that I don't really understand that made it such that the DoJ could not freeze those accounts.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:49 AM   #764
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Because Pokerstars had a LOT less money frozen because the accounts with player money were clearly separate from operating funds and were not in the name of the owner as FTP's money was and had some other protections that I don't really understand that made it such that the DoJ could not freeze those accounts.
Ah I see, so basically PokerStars had their accounts set up much better than Full Tilt. Thanks for an actual answer other than the typical childish 2+2 response.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:50 AM   #765
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PS segregated and protected their player deposits, as they were required to do under their gaming license.

FTP did not, nor were they required to under their gaming license (two different licensing authorities, ldo).

There are other significant hurdles (FTP was floating players money without deposits to cover it to the tune of $60M, FTP has significant amount of checks that bounced or unprocessed player withdrawals that are still in limbo but are slowly making it back into FTP accounts, FTP appears to not have had enough liquid capital to cover the amount necessary to cover all US accounts after the DOJ froze some of their accounts) which have prevented FTP from paying out so far.

Other than the fact that both were poker sites, comparing PS and FTP is like comparing apples to oranges. Actually, it's like comparing a prime ribeye steak with processed dog food. Still, there's really no comparison of the two situations - PS was simply in a better position with minimal roadblocks, FTP has significant other roadblocks that have yet to be cleared, along with poor customer service and a PR team made up of drunken monkeys.

That should just about catch you up for the last six weeks.
This should probably be stickied somewhere. It's the best summary/cliffs so far that I've seen.

While my problem with FTP has always been the CS and drunken monkeys, I do have a slight new concern about why Ivey would do this. It opens up speculation that they could have/should have been able to do something differently post BF. Almost as if he knows about an impropriety that we don't. Otherwise, why would he make such a statement? Unfortunately or fortunately, it's just speculation.

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