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Old 07-12-2009, 08:05 PM   #151
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Re: FTP Update 7/12

as an addition. after deleting this phonon.dll it seems to be running better in win 7 64bit.
but didn't do a real session.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:13 PM   #152
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I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but could you add the text to the hand replayer so you don't have to watch the action to find out what happened like the old HH's. It's way easier in game to just scroll through the text to view the action.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:17 PM   #153
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did ftpdoug ever answer to requests or is he just announcing in a new thread every day?

btw, i have a small petition in the software forum. if you guys share my opinion i would be glad to see you sign in:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...67&postcount=1
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:21 PM   #154
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5 days and 4 updates later it still does the exact same thing for me, lags for ~5-10 seconds once a minute, making it unplayable.
first off, i am not a programmer and am not responsible for anything anybody does with anything i'm about to say.

given my layman's experience building my own computer and installing a bunch of programs on pc's in general over the last 5 years, it sounds like people are having driver issues. in other words, there are conflicts between the new software and the hardware installed in your computer; more specifically, the software that runs that hardware. i've experienced this with other (random) programs, and particularly with multimedia programs.

these conflicts cause things like stuttering, lagging, disappearing graphics issues, sound problems, and a lot of other things -- most of which seem to be what people are still experiencing and rightly are ticked off about.

before you do anything, back up anything you value, and create a system restore point.

most of you have heard by now of the multitude of issues with windows vista, other software, and drivers. this problem should not occur imo with a poker client, especially one that was so lean and worked so well before, but, we're he're now and have to make the best of it.

the sound issue turned me on to this, fwiw. some programs simply don't like the drivers that run sound and video hardware in your machine. fortunately there are many versions of the drivers that we use to run our hardware. i can't guarantee anything, but i would recommend rolling back your drivers if your using fairly new ones; some of you will also experience success with updating your drivers if you're using old ones. some of you will have no success at all, and some will have success with several different drivers... the point is, there's no telling what exactly might make your pc run smoothly, and i don't know enough to tell you why it'll work. but, i have had success in the past, in similar situations, via changing the drivers.

i'm running a fairly old videocard, with a moderately recent driver, and a real old soundcard, with a real old driver. i'm also running xp pro sp3 32-bit, which given what i've heard about vista as well as 64-bit os'es, is probably helpful. my point there is that i'm using relatively old and relatively "primitive" software and hardware, and the client is now working really well for me. i believe the reason for that is the relative simpleness of my setup. as in life, sometimes too many bells and whistles, too much "fanciness," doesn't get the job done as well as the simple tried and true product.

hopefully someone will find this helpful. it's so long so that you might understand what i'm talking about and the underlying idea behind trying it.

gl
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:36 PM   #155
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Re: FTP Update 7/12

Tables still don't flash or grab focus like they're supposed to.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:43 PM   #156
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Tables still don't flash or grab focus like they're supposed to.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:43 PM   #157
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Anyone want t make a side bet on how Full Tilt will apologize?

I bet they'll do some freerolls, and some extra Happy Hours.

A month of 100% rakeback might come close to being a proper apology.
i think you have FTP confused with someone who cares
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:45 PM   #158
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first off, i am not a programmer and am not responsible for anything anybody does with anything i'm about to say.

given my layman's experience building my own computer and installing a bunch of programs on pc's in general over the last 5 years, it sounds like people are having driver issues. in other words, there are conflicts between the new software and the hardware installed in your computer; more specifically, the software that runs that hardware. i've experienced this with other (random) programs, and particularly with multimedia programs.

these conflicts cause things like stuttering, lagging, disappearing graphics issues, sound problems, and a lot of other things -- most of which seem to be what people are still experiencing and rightly are ticked off about.

before you do anything, back up anything you value, and create a system restore point.

most of you have heard by now of the multitude of issues with windows vista, other software, and drivers. this problem should not occur imo with a poker client, especially one that was so lean and worked so well before, but, we're he're now and have to make the best of it.

the sound issue turned me on to this, fwiw. some programs simply don't like the drivers that run sound and video hardware in your machine. fortunately there are many versions of the drivers that we use to run our hardware. i can't guarantee anything, but i would recommend rolling back your drivers if your using fairly new ones; some of you will also experience success with updating your drivers if you're using old ones. some of you will have no success at all, and some will have success with several different drivers... the point is, there's no telling what exactly might make your pc run smoothly, and i don't know enough to tell you why it'll work. but, i have had success in the past, in similar situations, via changing the drivers.

i'm running a fairly old videocard, with a moderately recent driver, and a real old soundcard, with a real old driver. i'm also running xp pro sp3 32-bit, which given what i've heard about vista as well as 64-bit os'es, is probably helpful. my point there is that i'm using relatively old and relatively "primitive" software and hardware, and the client is now working really well for me. i believe the reason for that is the relative simpleness of my setup. as in life, sometimes too many bells and whistles, too much "fanciness," doesn't get the job done as well as the simple tried and true product.

hopefully someone will find this helpful. it's so long so that you might understand what i'm talking about and the underlying idea behind trying it.

gl
I like your thoughts. wanted to add, that these phonon und qt4 files, that were installed with the client might be a step to build a crossplatform client.
but possibly these might add to driver problems, or on some systems even create them.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:50 PM   #159
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Re: FTP Update 7/12

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Anyone want t make a side bet on how Full Tilt will apologize?

I bet they'll do some freerolls, and some extra Happy Hours.

A month of 100% rakeback might come close to being a proper apology.
id bet a ton of money, if they do apologize at all, it will be in the form of a $100 bonus, and it will only be given to players who contacted them w/ angry emails during the fiasco
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:54 PM   #160
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There are 80,000 people playing right now. They know they can get away with **** like this and not lose their player base.
I wonder how many are actually playing their normal stakes/tables.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:54 PM   #161
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Edit/MH: Previous thread: FTP Update 7/11
I also wanted to mention that we will be extending the time players have to clear their Iron Man Mid-Year Bonus by at least a week. We'll post a specific extension time on the Mid-Year Bonus status page by the end of this week.
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This is a good start, but, really, it should be for the whole month of August. Remember, many of us lost a lot of cash when out hands were folded due to the lag problem.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:54 PM   #162
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Also, I would like a date with Gizmomo for my troubles.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:56 PM   #163
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I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but could you add the text to the hand replayer so you don't have to watch the action to find out what happened like the old HH's. It's way easier in game to just scroll through the text to view the action.
I second this. Losing the text record of the hand is bad.

I successfully loaded the upgrade on my laptop by going to my Public Library (where they have WiFi which is quicker than my home dial-up, and I don't get the "Failure to Decompress" crash), and using "Run as Administrator" mode.

I returned home and played an MTT NL Holdem Freeroll and had no problems. I did not multitable however.

The new upgrade has the funny cards when the window is reduced to a certain size, and it has the new Hand History format. But other than that, I don't notice any difference.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:57 PM   #164
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first off, i am not a programmer and am not responsible for anything anybody does with anything i'm about to say.

given my layman's experience building my own computer and installing a bunch of programs on pc's in general over the last 5 years, it sounds like people are having driver issues. in other words, there are conflicts between the new software and the hardware installed in your computer; more specifically, the software that runs that hardware. i've experienced this with other (random) programs, and particularly with multimedia programs.

these conflicts cause things like stuttering, lagging, disappearing graphics issues, sound problems, and a lot of other things -- most of which seem to be what people are still experiencing and rightly are ticked off about.

before you do anything, back up anything you value, and create a system restore point.

most of you have heard by now of the multitude of issues with windows vista, other software, and drivers. this problem should not occur imo with a poker client, especially one that was so lean and worked so well before, but, we're he're now and have to make the best of it.

the sound issue turned me on to this, fwiw. some programs simply don't like the drivers that run sound and video hardware in your machine. fortunately there are many versions of the drivers that we use to run our hardware. i can't guarantee anything, but i would recommend rolling back your drivers if your using fairly new ones; some of you will also experience success with updating your drivers if you're using old ones. some of you will have no success at all, and some will have success with several different drivers... the point is, there's no telling what exactly might make your pc run smoothly, and i don't know enough to tell you why it'll work. but, i have had success in the past, in similar situations, via changing the drivers.

i'm running a fairly old videocard, with a moderately recent driver, and a real old soundcard, with a real old driver. i'm also running xp pro sp3 32-bit, which given what i've heard about vista as well as 64-bit os'es, is probably helpful. my point there is that i'm using relatively old and relatively "primitive" software and hardware, and the client is now working really well for me. i believe the reason for that is the relative simpleness of my setup. as in life, sometimes too many bells and whistles, too much "fanciness," doesn't get the job done as well as the simple tried and true product.

hopefully someone will find this helpful. it's so long so that you might understand what i'm talking about and the underlying idea behind trying it.

gl
In general its a good idea to keep your drivers up to date and frequently check for updates.
But in this case with ftp i am about 100% sure that this is not a driver issue.If it was a drivers' problem, it could only be caused by the new implemented macromedia flash player and the install routine for that application should have detected problems during the installation.Moreover u would prob receive error messages like "sound device not detected" or similar.
But your post is still helpful as some guys will now hopefully check their hardware for updates which is never a bad idea.
Unfortunately it will prob not help them with their ftp probs
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Old 07-12-2009, 09:01 PM   #165
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Re: FTP Update 7/12

I have to admit sadly that those cards are actually growing on me a bit. Normally I don't play with tables small enough to see the new cards. But when I was playing on my laptop today the cards were helpful. And since I had no cards mods they were a bit easier to read than the old ones. However it is chewing up a ton of processing and freezing up quite a bit. The hand replayer is working for me now and is nice. It saves me some time trying to figure out what happened in a important pot.

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