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04-29-2011 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FTPDoug
  • Progress toward promised mid-year bonus
- This is still under discussion, but I think it's unlikely we'll pay out a potential bonus in cash. What might happen is that we preserve the "potential" from January through April and add it to the next one of those bonuses that our US players might be eligible for.
This doesn't make sense. Here's what should happen.

You need to recognize that the majority of the work getting the mid-year bonus is in getting the iron man levels in the first place, not actually clearing the bonus once it's given.

Players need to recognize that some of the work getting the mid-year bonus is in clearing the bonus once it's given. I believe it's $0.05 released per FTP, which is the figure I use to calculate "FTP to Clear".

With this understanding, we can easily calculate the amount of "work" already done for a monthly mid-year bonus, compared to the amount of "work" that would have to be done in total for a monthly mid-year bonus.

This is an easy conversion chart for a fair conversion of earned iron man levels to cash bonuses, skipping the bonus release process.

It's not our fault that we can't play to clear the mid-year bonus in a few months, and there's no certainty we will ever be allowed to play on FTP again, so it's not fair to keep those in limbo for a possible future return of US players. US politicians just don't get that they could help our tremendous national debt by taxing and regulating an industry practically begging for it. It's not reasonable to expect a government approved return of US players soon.

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04-29-2011 , 03:36 PM
blahhhh i want my money
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04-29-2011 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cubicle
Are VPNs altogether against TOS now? or only if you are using it as a means to hide location? There are plenty of legitimate reasons to use a VPN...security ect.
If you are caught, your account will be banned and funds will be seized.
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04-29-2011 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzyDunflop
for bored people, there's a typo in there if anyone can spot it
penalised?
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04-29-2011 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by The Good Life11
blahhhh i want my money
Thanks for posting. You may be the only person in America...or the rest of the world for that matter.... that wants their money. Without your post, we would never know.

Does anyone else want their money?

Prayers sent...
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04-29-2011 , 03:46 PM
mid year bonuses are given to you to entice you to play. they have no reason to give you a bonus that you cant clear.

"It's not our fault that we can't play to clear the mid-year bonus in a few months, and there's no certainty we will ever be allowed to play on FTP again"

its not FTPs fault either so why should they give you free money? if you have a problem you should contact cashier@congress.gov
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04-29-2011 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzyDunflop

My Account Balance

When will I be able to withdraw my account balance?

Full Tilt Poker is diligently working on facilitating the withdrawal of funds for US Players. This is our top priority and we’ll have a further update in the week commencing Monday, May 2nd.





What will happen to my withdrawals that have already been requested?

We are diligently working to determine the status of any unprocessed withdrawals. Once confirmed we will return the funds to your Full Tilt account balance and contact you.




Tickets, Bonuses and Promotions

What will happen to my Ring Game Tickets, Tournament Tickets and T$?


Any tickets purchased after Friday, April 15th, will be refunded in the currency they were purchased in.

All remaining unused tournament tickets and T$ will be converted to cash and added to your real-money balance.



What about my unclaimed bonuses?

Any purchased bonuses will have the unclaimed portion of the bonus refunded in the currency in which they were purchased.
These are new to me. And having a date for an announcement is nice.
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04-29-2011 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Go Get It
These are new to me. And having a date for an announcement is nice.
Well I think that says it will be the week starting with that date. As in maybe that date, but maybe later in the week.
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04-29-2011 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Go Get It
And having a date for an announcement is nice.
It is ambiguously worded and only indicates that there will be an announcement next week(not Monday).
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04-29-2011 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nsoshnikov
If you are caught, your account will be banned and funds will be seized.
Caught using one, or caught using one from a banned location? People that use public wifi in a legal country and want the security of a VPN should not be penalized.
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04-29-2011 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzyDunflop
Well I think that says it will be the week starting with that date. As in maybe that date, but maybe later in the week.
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Originally Posted by Jeff W
It is ambiguously worded and only indicates that there will be an announcement next week(not Monday).
Better than silence imo.
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04-29-2011 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Joee
Doug : How come players in the US are not allowed to play freerolls?
The DOJ statement prohibits US players from playing for "anything of value". That means any tourney with a potential cash prize is a no-go, even if it's free to buy in.
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04-29-2011 , 04:00 PM
^ for sure, just wanted to clarify so people don't have monday come around and lose their mind if nothing is said.
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04-29-2011 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
Thanks Doug. The update is nice. I feel a lot better about things, even if specifics aren't available yet. Even "we're working on it and we'll know more next week" is a ton better than not knowing anything. Thanks for understanding that we're stressed and playing sucky live poker, instead of on FT enjoying the games we're used to playing. I'll e-mail support about the Take2; wish I had logged in 1st thing in the morning and taken care of it.
The day of the DOJ seizure was the 8th day of Take 2 so it wouldn't have mattered. I cleared my points for Black Friday the night before, after midnight, but still couldn't log in on Saturday to get the 9th day.
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04-29-2011 , 04:04 PM
Doug,

Now that US players have been barred from playing, can you make future topics in the "FTP Answers day/month" format that the rest of the world uses?
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04-29-2011 , 04:05 PM
boo @ moving my thread in here, it wasnt the same info
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04-29-2011 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by agyar
Funny how pissed off people are. FT is doing way better than most of us expected.

Remember Neteller? What if Stars hadn't been involved in this? FT would look brilliant right about now.

Anyway. There was no news here, but there was at least a minor effort at damage control, which strikes me as good news in & of itself.

I'm goin' to bed.
No news... really? They announced that they aren't broke, that European players' funds will not be affected even after US cashouts, and that there is some plan to convert FTPs and Iron Man medals to some sort of value.

We didn't know any of that for sure yesterday.
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04-29-2011 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Solid up arrow
mid year bonuses are given to you to entice you to play. they have no reason to give you a bonus that you cant clear.

"It's not our fault that we can't play to clear the mid-year bonus in a few months, and there's no certainty we will ever be allowed to play on FTP again"

its not FTPs fault either so why should they give you free money? if you have a problem you should contact cashier@congress.gov
I completely agree that the bonuses are given to entice you to play.

But, my point is that they aren't entirely given to entice you to play to clear the bonus once given.

I made sure to hit iron man level every month, even though that meant impacting my daily schedule. And, I played at micro stakes (mostly $0.25/$0.50), so getting enough FTP every day took a few hours every day three-four tabling rush. They enticed me to play in the past, to get the levels in the first place. There were many times I grinded out enough FTP in a day to hit my level, instead of doing something else I would have preferred to have done that day.

This is why I think it makes sense to pro-rate (split up) the bonus.
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04-29-2011 , 04:15 PM
Please fix the MoneyBookers withdrawl option as soon as possible, its been for ever now that its not working?
this is very disturbing (for your nonUS current players, who are planning on keeping their game on FTP, but man, only if you keep good service for customers, and right now being unable to withdrawl $ via moneybookers is a big inconvinience)

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04-29-2011 , 04:25 PM
Have emailed cashier and both .com and .co.uk support addresses about this and have never gotten a response. Might want to get support to start replying to people.


Requested $2k check in early April, has never arrived. It clearly will never arrive. I need to make sure that money is put back into my account.
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04-29-2011 , 04:31 PM
I guess one would have to think it's good news that issues regarding FTPs/IM Medals/Bonuses/etc are being resolved. It's very unlikely these things would have gotten this far if they didn't have a full intention of paying out, and soon.

I also think another important thing to consider is that paying out the cash value of every FTP/IM Medal/Ticket is going to put a pretty substantial financial burden on FT beyond just paying back account balances. It's no surprise Stars is making people wait to reimburse points in order to likely soften the blow so to speak.

For me personally, the cashing in of all my points and medals will yield about a 15% boost to my BR. If the amount FT has to pay out instantaneously increases by 15% beyond what is in players accounts then it's even more understandable now why this could be difficult.
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04-29-2011 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzyDunflop
for bored people, there's a typo in there if anyone can spot it
travelling should be spelled traveling
penalised should be spelled penalized
fulfil should be spelled fulfill

So much for 'super extra approval' ... I keed, I keed!
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04-29-2011 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Phatty
travelling should be spelled traveling
penalised should be spelled penalized
There are other countries other than the United States of America?!?!?
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04-29-2011 , 05:12 PM
When will I be able to withdraw my account balance?

Full Tilt Poker is diligently working on facilitating the withdrawal of funds for US Players. This is our top priority and we’ll have a further update in the week commencing Monday, May 2nd.

Oh cool, an announcement that there's gonna be an announcement.
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04-29-2011 , 05:22 PM
I just got a 2k check last week but then it bounced.. and i really need the money.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 04-30-2011 at 11:26 AM.
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