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Old 08-23-2009, 09:08 PM   #1141
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Re: Slow Eurolinx withdrawals?

I was thinking off doing afew kickbacks on this network but there is no way there getting my buisness after this.

Goodluck to all who have money tied up with these thieves i hope if you dont get all your money back you at least get some.
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:22 PM   #1142
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Re: Slow Eurolinx withdrawals?

FFS how can anyone be so stupid as to keep significant $$ on a Microgaming site (Labrokes and maybe Unibet excepted) after they shut down 26 rooms (and players lost all their money) in last year's Tusk scandal??

Microgaming licenses fraudsters who steal players' $$$ - they make a habit of it and then they wash their hands of the whole thing when your money disappears...'we're only the software provider' they say - yet they lay down all the rules under which the network is run and your money is managed and happily take the licence fees whilst the fraudsters are building up player trust and cash...

When the Tusk debacle lost me $2500 last year (fortunately not a big chunk of my roll) I took it as a warning and reduced my poker sites to one - Will Hill.
I still get good RB and I just like the thought of being able to walk up to any of their 1000 real bricks and mortar betting shops and get my money out in cash if I want...

I am a lawyer and have done IOM and similar jurisidiction multi-million £ fraud cases in the past. Forget getting your money. And never again put more than 10% of your roll in any site in any one network unless it is one of the really big boys - UK bookmakers (backed by B&M assets) like Will Hill, Ladbrokes or Bet Fred, Betfair, Stars, FT, Party, 888 and maybe Unibet. And to be honest I really only trust the UK bookie ones -no US issues and 50+ years of paying out every time is the sort of history I want to see if my roll is on a site...

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Old 08-23-2009, 09:46 PM   #1143
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Re: Slow Eurolinx withdrawals?

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When eurolinx lynda quit posting--it should have been a big sign....get better glasses

now, after all the monies are gone do you find out that eurolinx was not licensed by curaco..lmao.

I'm getting popcorn as this is going to get better..I am convinced. It is like watching a bad intersection for a car wreck..juicy juicy!

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I don't disagree with all of what your posting, but do you have to take so much satisfaction in the fact players are out so much money. You seem way to happy about this and like rubbing are noses in it.
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:09 PM   #1144
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It appears that Eurolinx has mislead the players regarding their licensing.

BetonBet was licensed by their former owners in Malta.

A current search of the the LGA yields no licensing for Eurolinx or BetonBet current, suspended or cancelled.

In addition the Curacao licensing authority http://www.curacao-egaming.com/index-4.html have posted the following on their website.

"Please note: We do not license www.eurolinx.com or www.betonbet.com"
Here is part of an email the Eurolinx sent me, what a joke;

With regards to your other question, Eurolinx is licensed in Curacao under the master license #5536/JAZ. I understand how you feel and I can assure you that all withdrawals will be dealt with.
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:25 PM   #1145
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I don't disagree with all of what your posting, but do you have to take so much satisfaction in the fact players are out so much money. You seem way to happy about this and like rubbing are noses in it.
bc he plays $0.10/$0.20 NL and has some serious jealousy issues, i'm pretty sure.

he suggests everyone roll over and take it, which is fine by me since i'm only out like 5k. but if it was 250k, you can't roll over, you gotta do SOMETHING.

how weird in NVG a guy named BLEWJOB is posting all this classy, nice, respectful stuff. at the same time over here there's a guy named Karma who is a total ****ing dick
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:35 PM   #1146
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Didn't one player meet Jo Remme in Malta a while back? It should be possible to track him down.
Yeah, for some reason I specifically remembered this. I was trying to dig up info on Jo Remme yesterday, and google'd "my good friend jo remme".

Apparently the player that is "good friends" with Jo Remme is Marc "Myst" Karam. But on his forums (fwiw), he claims to have been taken by him too.
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:37 PM   #1147
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Can daddy get the money back...LMAO. You kids are just young, dumb and naive about how the world works. It is unregulated and like a pyramid scheme. You the players are the mill workers who do all the work and are the first to get screwed and last to get anything. They mismanaged the money and it is mostly gone. You are getting nothing. Learn and move on.

It is so obvious that most of the posters in here are like 20. No world experience and it shows.

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You just kind of seem like you don't know anything about the legal system. What does regulation have to do with any of this?

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It's very very very unlikely any lawyer would take this on a contingency. No one has any idea of what the jurisdiction would be and you would need an attorney licensed there. No one, at this point, knows how much money if any, remains to go after or what the respective laws in whatever jurisdiction are towards punitive damages, or if any of the people to go after would have any personal assets to pay.
The jurisdiction would America for suing both EL and Microgaming. Why do you think the plaintiffs have to sue where it is convenient for the defendants? That is not the case.

Pretty sure Microgaming has plenty of money and they could be jointly and severally liable.
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:59 PM   #1148
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Yeah, for some reason I specifically remembered this. I was trying to dig up info on Jo Remme yesterday, and google'd "my good friend jo remme".

Apparently the player that is "good friends" with Jo Remme is Marc "Myst" Karam. But on his forums (fwiw), he claims to have been taken by him too.
What is Marc "Myst" Karam's forum? I would like to see what he said. He was SPONSERED by Eurolinx.

I sent him a private message and asked him for help and info about the Eurolinx breakdown on facebook (he is a facebook friend) and he didn't respond to my message.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:03 AM   #1149
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What is Marc "Myst" Karam's forum? I would like to see what he said. He was SPONSERED by Eurolinx.

I sent him a private message and asked him for help and info about the Eurolinx breakdown on facebook (he is a facebook friend) and he didn't respond to my message.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:08 AM   #1150
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When eurolinx lynda quit posting--it should have been a big sign....get better glasses

now, after all the monies are gone do you find out that eurolinx was not licensed by curaco..lmao.

I'm getting popcorn as this is going to get better..I am convinced. It is like watching a bad intersection for a car wreck..juicy juicy!

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if you have nothing nice to say, please just keep quiet!
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:13 AM   #1151
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Re: Slow Eurolinx withdrawals?

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You just kind of seem like you don't know anything about the legal system. What does regulation have to do with any of this?



The jurisdiction would America for suing both EL and Microgaming. Why do you think the plaintiffs have to sue where it is convenient for the defendants? That is not the case.

Pretty sure Microgaming has plenty of money and they could be jointly and severally liable.
The ? is do they have any assets in the US and if you (sue) them would they even bother to show up in US court? If you win and the courts find them guilty and award the players money how do we and the courts enforce it. If you win but they don't pay because they and they assets are locked up in some other country then we aren't likely to get paid even if we win the case.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:16 AM   #1152
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Re: Slow Eurolinx withdrawals?

Guys im just putting this out there we have went through this before look at the TUSK treads we looked for people tried to sort things and nothing happened and nothing will. The thing to do is with the guys with a good chunk of money in this step up and fight back. They advertised in the US call them to a US court .. we all know how they feel about these guys they dont give kickbacks so there they are ***.

Ive read that eurolinxs offered a reload bonus right before this happened can anyone post it here? That shows there just getting as much as they can.

And a side not that Karma guy is being a proper ass and should be banned.. We had many of em in our treads.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:32 AM   #1153
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Re: Slow Eurolinx withdrawals?

Maybe contact the PPA and see if they can put us in contact with some legal resources. After all they are about protecting players right. Only thing is I am not sure if they get involved in this kind of stuff.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:43 AM   #1154
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+1 for banning that Karma idiot
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:51 AM   #1155
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Re: Slow Eurolinx withdrawals?

Ok our money is gone. Am I the only one who thinks this should be swept under the rug? We should put pressure on skins to move off microgaming, but I want nothing less than to scare fish away over this.
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