ANGRY!

I hope 2+2 has the credence to put some serious hurt on MG.

Seems, Mr. Remme was a crook. In hindsight maybe players shoulda' been wiser; but all MG sites should be blacklisted from 2+2, or any other reputable poker forum; until the unlikely occurrance of this issue being satisfactorily resolved.

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Rather than chipping in for a lawyer, I would prefer to put a percentage of my bankroll towards a 2+2 banner ad, publicising the terribleness of MG and referencing this thread.

face it....
everything you might think, has already been said here

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...-close-141341/

Im not posting this to rub salt in anyone's wounds. Im in the same spot as you guys(Tusk), so I know how you feel, but I thought you some of you guys might get a laugh out of this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQlSq...eature=related

quote from early in this thread:

"Microgaming has been around since before online poker, and I don't think a player has ever lost money when one of their casinos or poker rooms shut down. I'm sure your money is safe this time, though you may not have access to it for a while."

Sobering thought for the "I only play on stars and ftp so I never have anything to worry about" crowd.

Just discovered i wierd thing. I had only a small amount around 1.5k pending withdrawel left at betonbet ( had recieved my bigger eurolinx one some months earlier ), day before liquidation i was on livechat screaming for my money, lol. When i saw they were put in liquidation i was sure my money was gone.
Today when i logged at neteller ( dont use that crap anymore), my withdrawel was completed just some hours before i noticed they were put in liquidation, this makes no sense to me, why would they pay a such small amount when they already down, im not even close to make them any trouble for such small amount. Strange stuff.

Anything the PPA can do to help us?

pretty sure a bunch of us from the tusk debacle would chip in to something like that as well

obv some employee had figured out what was going on and didnt give a **** and did everything in there moral will to help you since they still had some power b4 MG shut them down. consider yourself uberlucky

Update from lawyer in Malta :

Betonbet is currently investigated by LGA and that's the current status of the company - it has nothing to do with bankcrupcy yet. ( or information officially is not updated yet ) The best thing to do now for all players of Betonbet is send a complaint to LGA as you are instructed on this page : http://www.lga.org.mt/lga/content.aspx?id=157049 and wait for updates of situation, however this might be a very long process. Will keep you updated.

anything about eurolinx??

I am beginning to suspect that with the rumour of JR's exiting Malta and no updates on the EL website that either no approach was made to a Liquidator or any Liquidator approached did a quick scan of EL's affairs and there was so little left the Liquidator wouldn't get paid.

If he did leave malta almost 0% chance there is liquidation. As I said before though. TUSK had 20-30% of players funds left and there were no issues with withdrawls. Given the amount of difficulty Eurolinx was having I expect much less. I guess MGS still does absolutely nothign to ensure there is adequate cashflow on their network. Wonder how much money eurolinx owed in transfer payments???

JR already left Malta with destination Norway, he doesn't payed his own people since two months , his office and his beautiful villa are empty! Try to locate Lydia Melton his PA. She is American Citizen. She should know more about everything .

For what it's worth, I just Googled this: there appears to be a company in Norway by the name of "Eurolink Remme" (what's in a name) (source: http://sesam.no/search/?q=Eurolink%20Remme&c=w). Head of the company is a person by the name of Jo Arild Remme (born 1968). The company is located here: Løvsøya Industihus, 6292 Kjerstad, tel. 98810664. The company is apparently specialised in "System- og programvarekonsulenter" which probably means "System- and programming consultancy". Also, the company is located in a remote area in Norway (see this map: http://www.bedriftsdatabasen.no/kart...irmaId=1020018). First thing that comes to my mind is: if it still exists is it related to Eurolinx's shady business?

Edit: "Eurolink Remme har besøksadresse Løvsøya Industihus, 6292 Kjerstad. Selskapet ble stiftet i 2004 og er registrert under bransjen web-portal. Jo Arild Remme er daglig leder."

The company was set up on 25.10.2004 according to the Norwegian chamber of commerce.

Any Norwegians here want to give the company a call for a possible new software project? ;]

If I had to make a quick guess, it's probably his affiliate company for Eurolinx. I am sure he had his own rakeback deals with players under his own affiliate. Nothing like double dipping.

any update for eurolinx? can anybody look after Jo remme in his country?

I think someone earlier pointed out lydia is now working for MG

Most norwegians speek decent english so anyone could call if they want.
FYI: Add +47 to the number to get into norway..

He's dead, Dave. Everybody's dead.

So what is happening? this thread isslowly coming to a hold. Is everyone just accepting they lost their money and move on. If so, it could be extremely lucrative for new companies to set up similar scams...no consequences.

Where/ when does MG act? The site hasnt even given a response yet. From this bankrupcy at the moment there seem to be two winners: Remme and MicroGaming and a whole bunch of loosers (players, EL staff, other MG skins who suffer from worsening MG rep, affiliates).

Does anyone have MG contacts and can give them a call about...wtf is going on?!

MG never responded when this happend 18 months ago at TUSK for a similiar amount of money... they generally ignore emails as well or brush you off if you call them... they made it very clear that they don't intend to step in and make things right in such cases...

Lotteries and Gaming Authority is requesting the information listed below. Please reply to this email with the requested details.


1. Kindly confirm if you are a Sportsbook or Casino player.

2. Name and Surname

3. Registered Address

4. Date of Birth

5. “Certified True Copy” of Passport or ID Card (by e-mail or by post)

6. Telephone Number

7. User name

8. Player Account

9. Amount of claim of balance or pending cash out

10. Screenshot of balance or cash out pending





The above information is requested to reach the Authority by Monday 7th September 2009, kindly reply to complaints@lga.org.mt.


Seems they want this info kinda fast.

I need some help here, how do i get a “Certified True Copy” of my ID? Where do i do this, at the police?

Also i don't have any screenshot of my pending cash out, i suspekt most people here don't, so what to do about this...?

Police might do it for you, or a notary (check your phone book) or your bank. That said emailing a certified copy is pretty ridiculous.

I'm from Norway. Tried to call that number a few day ago, and its not in use.

Too bad. It's probably the only company registered in the 'systems and programming consultancy business' that in 5 years time has had no reference projects, has only one employee, has no website/e-mail address, has a dead phone line, is located in the middle of nowhere and still has possibly made millions off of its clients.