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06-05-2012, 07:09 PM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 812
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Re: Credit card fraud. Possibly from using CC to deposit on Carbon? Check your accounts!
I had the same thing happen a few weeks ago. I had a dedicated email address for online poker accounts. stars, ub, rpm, and I believe America's Cardroom. I had a fraudulent charge put onto my credit card from money bookers (I don't have a moneybookers acct) When I checked my email I had a email from moneybookers telling me I had created an account and that they wanted me to verify the transfer
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06-05-2012, 08:23 PM
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#47
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 439
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Re: Internet Fraud, how fun
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Originally Posted by Do Not Blink
Wtf ? I don't have a moneybookers account , that is the whole point. Like I said there has been no activity in poker account either - I simply have an email address that was exclusively used 4 online poker rooms and a moneybookers account was created in my name with my credit card using this email address. I have used the email w rpm , pokerstars, and UB. I'm from the states so the r
UB and Stars accounts have been dead 4 sometime
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Don't let them put the blame on you as having virus, etc etc. etc., look at the other thread on the processors being hacked. Quite a few people have posted of unathorized charges on credit cards that HAD ONLY BEEN USED FOR POKER DEPOSIT.
They are just trying to shift the blame. Nobody knows better than you what happened and this virus crap is non-sense. If it were a virus, a lot of other stuff would have been compromised, bank account, other CCs etc etc etc.
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06-06-2012, 11:01 AM
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#48
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centurion
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 111
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Re: Credit card fraud. Possibly from using CC to deposit on Carbon? Check your accounts!
I got a call today from my bank stating fraudulent activity. There were over 20 charges for over 1k. This was a dedicated poker account only used for online poker deposits to Bovada and Merge. These people/processors have all our information so if they go rogue, they can steal your cc identity and charge up a bunch of ****. Now I have to wait to get refunds and endure this hassle.
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06-06-2012, 03:21 PM
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Cynical Idealist
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Advocating for YOUR freedom to play
Posts: 4,896
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Re: Credit card fraud. Possibly from using CC to deposit on Carbon? Check your accounts!
You shouldn't have to wait to get refunds. You should cancel the card and get a new one. Tell the bank your card information was stolen. The bank will cancel all of the bogus charges and send you a new card (next day delivery for mine). I did have to wait until the charges became official though -- not merely authorized by the bank. The bank wouldn't do anything about it until the charges actually went through, but then they act fast.
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06-06-2012, 03:32 PM
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Cynical Idealist
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Advocating for YOUR freedom to play
Posts: 4,896
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Re: Internet Fraud, how fun
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Originally Posted by Do Not Blink
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It's an epidemic. Definitely a Merge processor or cashier issue.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...ounts-1206352/
Merge needs to figure out who is responsible!
Last edited by sajeffe; 06-06-2012 at 03:56 PM.
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06-06-2012, 03:39 PM
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#51
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adept
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 784
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Re: Internet Fraud, how fun
merge processor.. happened to me as well..
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06-06-2012, 03:41 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: May 2009
Location: sitting regs
Posts: 218
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Re: Internet Fraud, how fun
ya happened to me too over the weekend i believe the charges were...luckly i didnt have much in the account, one charge for ~$1 and another one for 25..was a subscription to lynda.com, i checked it out some programming website
edit: and yes i deposit on carbon all the time
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06-06-2012, 04:06 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tilting @ Windmills
Posts: 1,595
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Re: Internet Fraud, how fun
Just a little information for those unaware:
(Please note I have no stake in this conversation other than the fact that I play at RPM.)
A while back RPMSeth was found guilty of using shill 2+2 accounts to bolster his business/ take business from other Merge skins/ flush out fraudulent activity, etc. These issues were a hot topic for a couple weeks, with Do Not Blink (the OP) as the main torch-bearer. He vehemently called for Seth's head on a platter, but as far as I know, Seth's shill accounts were banned and he was warned by 2+2 that such activity is unwelcome on their forums. Some people (such as myself) have decided to continue playing on RPM regardless; others decided that it was an unforgivable offense and withdrew their funds from the site.
Do Not Blink -- Just FYI, and I'm not going to go through the trouble of searching for a link, but on 2+2 a couple months ago it was revealed that a lot of contact information from UB accounts had appeared on the internet. I believe e-mail addresses were part of the leaked info. You might want to explore that avenue.
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06-06-2012, 05:41 PM
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#54
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Official CarbonPoker Site Representative
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 7,166
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Re: Credit card fraud. Possibly from using CC to deposit on Carbon? Check your accounts!
Can a moderator please change the thread title?
This has absolutely nothing to do with the player making a deposit at CarbonPoker. The title is very misleading.
Ryan
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06-06-2012, 07:28 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 285
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Re: Internet Fraud, how fun
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Originally Posted by ChaseNutley26
Just a little information for those unaware:
(Please note I have no stake in this conversation other than the fact that I play at RPM.)
A while back RPMSeth was found guilty of using shill 2+2 accounts to bolster his business/ take business from other Merge skins/ flush out fraudulent activity, etc.
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I'd imagine there's not a single poker site that has official representation on 2+2 that didn't/don't use shill accounts in some capacity.
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06-06-2012, 07:31 PM
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#56
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 812
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Re: Credit card fraud. Possibly from using CC to deposit on Carbon? Check your accounts!
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Originally Posted by CarbonRyan
Can a moderator please change the thread title?
This has absolutely nothing to do with the player making a deposit at CarbonPoker. The title is very misleading.
Ryan
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In all honesty to state this has nothing do w/ carbon poker is disingenuous, I would argue that it has a lot to do with not only carbon but all Merge skins using the merge cashier and potentially Lock poker as well.
I started a similar thread and a mod updated my OP as I directed blame toward a merge skin , I would hope the title of this thread is not changed like my OP was.
Look at these threads, this issue is popping up everywhere:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...52/index2.html
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...52/index2.html
Last edited by Do Not Blink; 06-06-2012 at 07:40 PM.
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06-06-2012, 07:52 PM
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#57
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grinder
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 507
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Re: Internet Fraud, how fun
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Originally Posted by ChaseNutley26
Do Not Blink -- Just FYI, and I'm not going to go through the trouble of searching for a link, but on 2+2 a couple months ago it was revealed that a lot of contact information from UB accounts had appeared on the internet. I believe e-mail addresses were part of the leaked info. You might want to explore that avenue.
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I had to think of that too, when I read OP.
here is the linky: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...ed-ub-1134054/
I think it is more likely to be related to this than to the 2+2 hacking, since OP didn't use the email for 2+2. This is just a wild guess though, I am no techie.
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06-07-2012, 01:09 AM
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Cynical Idealist
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Advocating for YOUR freedom to play
Posts: 4,896
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Re: Internet Fraud, how fun
I would guess it's related to Merge cashier employee or Merge processor since several of us have had fraud committed against us and we play on different Merge skins. And I've never had a UB account.
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06-07-2012, 01:26 AM
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#59
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Cynical Idealist
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Advocating for YOUR freedom to play
Posts: 4,896
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Re: Credit card fraud. Possibly from using CC to deposit on Carbon? Check your accounts!
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Originally Posted by CarbonRyan
Can a moderator please change the thread title?
This has absolutely nothing to do with the player making a deposit at CarbonPoker. The title is very misleading.
Ryan
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The thread was already changed and moved because it was determined that this, in fact, was most definitely from a Carbon deposit. If anything, the original post needs to be updated to reflect that and take 2+2 out of it. You didn't read the thread.
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06-07-2012, 01:33 AM
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Cynical Idealist
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Advocating for YOUR freedom to play
Posts: 4,896
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Re: Credit card fraud. Possibly from using CC to deposit? Check your accounts!
Mods: please change the title again to reflect that this is a MERGE fraud issue. People need to be warned about depositing on Merge. It's not a 2+2 problem. It's not a Cake problem, or a Revolution problem or whatever. It's a MERGE problem. People have reported problems with Lock (just before change to Revolution), Carbon, and RPM. So, either the payment processor is stealing our info (credit card numbers, names, and email addys), or a Merge cashier employee(s) is. But it's a MERGE issue.
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