Did you with a GTO or an exploitative strategy?

I can't post screenshots of bot interface since it was a custom build with a custom hopper. I am still a member of a botting forum and a couple of irc channels, members there obviously browse 2p2 and I would rather not be identifiable to them. I used the 3rd of the mod-censored framework so if you are curious as to how I did it, you can pm the mod for the censored software.
I also cant post screenshots of the bot playing since I would have to censor my name, other players' names, possibly stacksizes, the HH#, the dealerchat, etc. and it'd be worthless.

I will however post screenshots of a 1st generation code that I wrote when I first started out and used the 1st framework to test the bot in lower stakes. I can't post later generation profiles with PT integration since I also hard-coded a bunch of players' screen names for specific gameplay against them. I may change my mind about selling the profile in the future, so I don't really want it floating around.

I'll post it shortly, I just need to make sure that any images I upload are completely stripped of any metadata or traceable info.

I am interested in seeing a graph too.

In the beginning, I built a bot that played more or less ABC poker. Using this underlying model, I then branched it for play against specific opponents and opponent types. Once I had gathered some hand history, I regularly tweaked the bot for optimal play against most of the regs and the regfishes.

time to hold the site accountable

It's a 6mo old profile that I tested with only for a few thousand hands and only pasted snippets of. The profile setup that I used for the majority of time after that bares very little resemblance to the one I posted, so I think I should be okay. If you're from OHBC, sorry but I don't think this will be a big blow. Plus it might bring some more folks to the marketplace.

No one cares if you're OK to be posting it, we care about whether it could provide a starting point for someone else, so I'm going to err on the side of caution here.

If this means bringing more people to botting, that's the last thing anyone here wants, and this thread will be gone if we think that's what the goal is.

My brain runs off this profile:

Lol

So I see that the screenshots post has been deleted. Based on the mod comments, I won't post anymore images of the code, etc. If you want to know the details of the software or would like to look at the screenshots, please direct your requests to the mods who should have the information available. All further inquiries in this thread should probably be non-specific and concerned with the general experience of botting. I will try my best to answer questions without getting banned or outing myself.

FWIW, it's been quite well known for several years that the most easily-sourced bot works on certain networks (not Stars or Party AFAIK) straight out of the box (although I hear the basic profile is very weak, so needs a lot of customization, like OP described). The seller of the bot apparently even has an affiliate/rakeback deal with some of the networks. It's a disgrace that the sites allow them to continue to operate.

@op

-how would you rate bot detection system among the top few sites(pokerstars,888,bovada,ipoker,partypoker,WPN)
-do you think a PLO bot is harder to configure than a NLHE bot (in other words - can we hope that the PLO player pools are less bot-infected than the NLHE ones)

Thank you for being another person responsible for contributing to the death of online poker. Real impressive stuff that you should be extremely proud of.

do u know someone who bots spins and where (and how good their ev is)? Spins should be gold mines for botters and no really sophisticated strategies are neccessary.

I assume you are talking about spin n' gos. Yes, there are a handful that target those games. Pretty much every game type has its own dedicated set of botters, some more successful than others. 6max NL ring is actually probably the most difficult, which is why I chose it. Well, I suppose also because it was the game type I had the most personal experience playing.

I've never attempted botting on other sites for a variety of reasons including: I already had established accounts with actual play there and regs were familiar with me, traffic, frequent software updates and changes, etc. Generally speaking, Stars is considered off-limits by all except the most experienced and technically savvy of botters. The site seems to be relatively proactive in bot detection. Bovada is considered to be the most bot-friendly and the easiest site for noobs to set up on. A large part of this is because bots are often detected by other players and in Bovada, that is almost impossible due to anonymous play.
Turn-key solutions work well with most sites, although I know that 888 botters seem to frequently have issues related to the poker software itself. WPN networks work fine with turn-key solutions but it's much harder to multitable more than 4 at a time without building your own tablemaps (which is what I did after an initial trial with an off-the-shelf solution) Different iPoker skins have different degrees of difficulty. I guess I should mention that you can't really construct a 'network' bot, you always have to construct a 'site-specific' bot.
In general most sites will look the other way for botters unless the botter garners a massive number of complaints from other players. Bots and poker sites have a mutually beneficial relationship. Bots are the most low-maintenance, high-value customers that most sites have. Bot-operators will never complain about cashout times, won't e-mail support over and over about mundane issues, won't complain about other players, won't be ill-mannered, etc. Good bot-operators will remain low-key and continue to churn out rake for sites and fill up the tables to boost player #'s.
PLO bots are probably somewhat easier to code than NL bots because of a smaller degree of freedom on what betsizes you are likely to see on the table. I was thinking about coding one myself but it would be a significant time commitment and I don't have much experience playing PLO, so a lot of it would be learning how to play well on the fly. Moreover, I would have to construct new tablemaps for 4-card deals which would be annoying in and of itself.

If WPN doesn't care about having bots on their site then I wouldn't say you exactly "outsmarted" them. It's more of a don't ask, don't tell relationship.

Im sure you have heard of the PLo bot ring that was dismantled on stars last year. They were taking literally millions out of the pool. Do you think there is still some massive bot ring like this on stars?
How good is stars security in your opinion?

+1

I was hoping OP listed among his reasons for doing so was to call out said sites. Ones that sponsor this forum, Have reps that post here and seemingly ignore multiple threads about this topic.

yeah, you are scummy.

LOL This guy is such a boss. Cashes out then creates a thread. Good on ya buddy

OP, if you really want to do something good for the community you need to out your sn on WPN. The network will turn a blind eye to this and hopes it blows over unless there is some serious pressure put on them by the players and the only way that will happen is if many feel they have been cheated themselves. WPN will not clean the site up until they feel a huge cost that will have to come from them losing massive revenue. Please do the community a huge favour and help get online poker cleaned up.

lol found a poker bot forum, it's like a bunch of greasy sports touts selling what are likely break even / losing 25nl bots

Are you selling said bot?

I am simply disgusted by OP. I don't care how much "work" ( preparation for cheating ) he's put into it, he should be exposed and punished.

OP, I will be honest I don't know if your story is genuine or not, but I'm interested in the moral situation you are presenting. Am I correct in thinking that your view is that you programmed the bot (in a clever way), using your own poker knowledge, and therefore its like you were playing but without having to spend the time in front of the computer to do it?

What is your general feeling on cheating in games - would you cheat in games that do not involve money, for example games with your friends? How about with anonymous online players?

Imagine a really clever programmer finds a way to outsmart an online bank and takes cash directly from their accounts. What would your opinion be of such a guy?

Sorry, ACR has all my real personal information. There's just no reason for me to risk retribution or get outted after the fact. ACR has never screwed me over and was relatively prompt, most of the time, in my cashouts. I also think you underestimate the amount of profit and action that bots generate for a lot of sites. No site will cut off a horde of their best and most reliable customers. It's probably more realistic to just accept the fact that some of the players you will be playing against are bots rather than trying to go on a doomed crusade to hold sites accountable.

To the person that inquired, I don't have any plans of selling my code. Even if I were to in the future, I would sell it at an appropriate venue to experienced botters, not through 2p2 and not to noobs.