I've lost a lot of money on this site with people making absurd calls but this hand is clearly someone who is cheating

My opponent had 6 4 of hearts I had 5 3

The board on the turn was Ah Ac Kd 10h

He called 3.50 on the turn with his flush draw which is fine

The river was the 2 of diamonds

I bet 7.50 and he called and won the hand

There is no possible way someone can make this call with the third nut low without being able to see my cards. I would avoid this site clearly it is rife with cheating

If he can see peoples hole cards, why is he playing small stakes?

It was the highest limit of zone poker running

Although I don't have any evidence of cheating yet, I was a winner on Stars $2NL to $200NL full ring. Then after Black Friday, I was a winner on Carbon $4NL to $200NL full ring. So far I can't win anything at Bovado/Ignition having tried $50NL to $200NL full ring. It's not a huge sample so maybe I'm running horribly but the anonymous tables bother me a lot because I doubt cheating can be detected or proven.

The only thing clear is the OP does not understand the meaning of the word evidence.

i can't ignition doesn't let you copy the hand histories

One hand is never clear evidence of cheating. Ever. How this can't be blindingly obvious is beyond my comprehension.

Simplest explanation for the call is that he is a Tony Hawk disciple.

I'll give you a chance to recant that statement...

Anonymous poker... everyone's solid.

They also don't let you take screenshots of HHs. Is that correct as well?

lol. Though I do wish you luck (sincerely).

Ah, you got there first. I was going to suggest that villain must be Tony Hawk.

FWIW, I don't play high stakes, but over the Christmas period I saw some absolutely horrendous "bluff-catches". Some people don't think "Which bluffs do I beat with my 8-high?" They just think "You must be bluffing, so I call".

Agreed.

because nobody every misreads the board and thinks they have a flush ever

That isn't even close to evidence of cheating (because it isn't, of course.) People will call you down three streets with 33 on a double-paired board, mis-read flushes and straights, misclick, and just throw money away when tilted.

Your mindset isn't indicative of a clued-up, experienced player so I'd suggest it isn't just runbad that is preventing you from beating those games.

meleab to bonitions rescue...........what else is new

You really need to pick your spots better.

what a horrible tale

Not that the OP is evidence of cheating, but does it not bother other people that you can't even track cheating because of the anonymous angle? Look at all the cheating scandals that HAVE been uncovered by various people on virtually every site. Has anything been uncovered on Ignition/Bovado/Bodog? Can it even be if there are any? And there HAS to be at least some low level stuff like there always is.

Pretty sure I've seen several posts on their discussion thread where folks have been refunded money due to cheating uncovered.

Unlike the OP, you make a very real and valid point. It's not just that it's anonymous, it's that it's unregulated alongside. To their credit, they have refunded players when they find collusion, but that in itself doesn't prove their trustworthiness.

If at some point in the future, shadiness was uncovered then I don't think anyone would be shocked, but my personal view is quite positive. In much part this is down to their payment history- I don't believe there are any outstanding legitimate grievances, going by the fairly detailed payment thread, and payments are extremely prompt. That all counts for a lot.

In addition, at least in the cash games I play, I have seen nothing to make me presume there is much player collision, or any internal super-users/collusion at all. And there is most definitely nothing to indicate rigged play! Furthermore the game are simply too soft for anything much untoward to be going on.

So, yes, it's extremely possible that it could happen, but given the lack of evidence currently and the fact games are good and we have few options, I wouldn't be overly concerned right now.

Of course it does - this has been brought up numerous times by many people since they first made the change. Some have decided not to play there for this reason, and others have concerns but play there anyway because they're willing to take the risk in return for the games they get.

I can't recall any. Whether that's because the site is doing a good job, or because no one can tell that they're being cheated, is something we can never know for certain.

Some things could still be detected by players, like anomalies in the deal. Perhaps some things can even be detected better than at other sites if Bodog still provides hand histories with all the hole cards, like collusion in a single session. But certainly there are many more types of cheating that the players need to rely on the site to catch.

Can confirm made a few accidental calls with 3-8 high. It happens a lot when I stack tables and one pops up right when I am trying to click something on another table underneath.

Oh man do I feel this pain. The Sunday afternoon MegaTurbo for $100+9 is when that happened to me. Comfortably inside the bubble but still a ways to go. All red paint on the flop.....table pops up as I click on some dopey website and right on the 'call' button. Oddly enough, my 2/3 clubs in the BB did not hold up and I lost 2/3s of my chips only to bust out couple hands later. Consolation prize was the other player in the hand recognized it was a mis-click and offered condolences.

Virtue.Poker where are thou!!!

I believe op its been done before using special glasses. I have no doubt someone would get superused at 25 dollar nl. a lot of those 10 dollar type hands add up to a lot. Thank you for the warning op