Chinese DON Collusion Ring on Stars? - Page 201 - Internet Poker

SuperUberBob · 07-05-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Journeyman

I'm getting the feeling that pokerstars is moving more towards automated responses and stalling people big time on any serious replies or solutions.

This has been my biggest problem with this new version of Poker Stars support.

Whenever I asked a question, I had to send 2 or 3 follow up e-mails to finally get an e-mail from a human being. It wasn't like that in the past. This has been the biggest reason for my major downswing in volume compared to 3-4 years ago.

kzk · 07-05-2010, 02:49 PM

but they keep looking at this post without answering it...
theres 31 pages and just like 4 answers of pokerstars.

its already past MONTHS.... theres enought time for a decent answer and and FAIR solution.

Bishop22 · 07-05-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ZERO_77

out of interest how much original refund did a few other regs recieve (Dale , Jph) ?

only asking as i know you guys are predominantly $52 players .. no problem if you don't wish to say on here

None so far that I know of, receive 3-5 reimbursments a month but so far biggest one is just under 300. Just reported my first player though and it went well, got a human and they are moving to full investion..

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Based on a preliminary review of the situation you reported, a complete review of the players involved has been initiated. This will include checking on relationships, location and play.

Depending on our findings, the players may be contacted and asked to explain relationships and/or play. The entire process generally takes up to 2 weeks, but can be delayed if we don't receive prompt responses.

The poker specialist handling this review will contact you directly when the review is complete or if there are unusual delays. Thank you for your patience while we complete this process.

ZERO_77 · 07-05-2010, 04:08 PM

You recieved nothing either Jph

Don't you find that just impossible being top of the leaderboard ?

So basically neither me or you has suffered even Once from these bunch then

It just proves how results orientated these refunds are (refunding bad players - not good regs - at all)

Cheers .. gl with these few hey

Smokey_The_Bear · 07-05-2010, 05:19 PM

You're not talking to a person bishop, thats the standard form letter they send out when you report people

IcyFlops · 07-05-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kzk

but they keep looking at this post without answering it...
theres 31 pages and just like 4 answers of pokerstars.

its already past MONTHS.... theres enought time for a decent answer and and FAIR solution.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2752

This was posted on 6-30 it has not been a week yet and 2 days of time passed has spanned a weekend.
Sure they didn't handle this in the best manner, but in case you just happened to miss that last post by them there it is. If you did see the post then carry on with the misleading.

evasive · 07-05-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AnfieldRoad

How do you know OG is good in terms of security? I've talked to lots of DoN regs over there who basically have never had any success whatsoever when contacting support regarding collusion. I mean, collusion obviously happens everywhere to some extent, especially in DoNs.

yes, Ongames attitude to cheating was one of the reasons I moved to Stars,
Stars are still much better despite this thread.

Anybody with a Sharkscope account care to look at the DON leaderboards? -
click on "$36 - $100" and"Av. Profit(last 500 games)" I think the Rois of the non-Stars players at the top look too good.

Bishop22 · 07-05-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ZERO_77

You recieved nothing either Jph

Don't you find that just impossible being top of the leaderboard ?

So basically neither me or you has suffered even Once from these bunch then

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I just assumed the full payouts weren't done but I am not really following this thread so I don't know. I just double checked, I've rec'd 15 so far this year, most I rec'd was $338. I probably didn't play as many games with the colluders as you would think, I wasn't focusing on DONs at the peak months they played and was mostly playing 20s.

Got Nutz? · 07-05-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyFlops

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2752

This was posted on 6-30 it has not been a week yet and 2 days of time passed has spanned a weekend.
Sure they didn't handle this in the best manner, but in case you just happened to miss that last post by them there it is. If you did see the post then carry on with the misleading.

Thanks for linking that.

Kajzer Sose · 07-05-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Daleroxxu

Sorry AnfieldRoad, the games were super super soft at that time.

They did, however, get a bit tougher after your quit playing.

loll

Journeyman · 07-05-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nicegame

What do you mean by "don't want any players from China"? They are not allowed to play? That would surprise me.

If you look at the terms of ipoker and ongame you'll see that players from china are not allowed to create accounts including a bunch of other countries with high fraud / collusion.

That still doesn't make either network good though.

johnycakes99 · 07-05-2010, 11:19 PM

so we have Tien_ve_2008
yqhaw
xiandan

All at my table. Love it

MegaFossil · 07-05-2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by evasive

yes, Ongames attitude to cheating was one of the reasons I moved to Stars,
Stars are still much better despite this thread.

Anybody with a Sharkscope account care to look at the DON leaderboards? -
click on "$36 - $100" and"Av. Profit(last 500 games)" I think the Rois of the non-Stars players at the top look too good.

Wow, that's insane. The top 2 guys on the leaderboard are both Ongame players averaging $37.50 and $35.19 per game over 500 games. 3rd place is a Stars guy at $13.58 a game. That seems ludicrous that you could run at 35-37% ROI over 500 games.

Klinzmann · 07-06-2010, 12:34 AM

Ongame has always been shady. I wouldn't recommend anyone to play there.

Bishop22 · 07-06-2010, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by johnycakes99

so we have Ti'en_ve_20'08
y'q'h'a'w
xi'an'dan

All at my table. Love it

Tien has a long history of play at many different games but he's had a long slightly losing stretch and is worth keeping an eye on. Curious he just started playing DONs (18) and ends up playing $52s which is above his average buyin ($12) and also ends up playing two with yq. Would be helpful if you posted locations and obscured screenames in the future.