100 pages....still nothing from stars.

Sigh

Please be a real post.......

youve been here since 2007 and youre still doing it wrong?

Ya I figure theres a way to make more posts per page etc just to lazy to look for it.....as you can see from my post total I'm not on here often, just visit to keep track of this situation

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Funny i'm grinding 1.10 DoN and I saw these two guys trying to cheat same as Jane has been doing. It's funny to see them do it at a 1.10 DoN and STILL get caught by a guy that was 10 tabling.

I've decided to be very suspicious, just for your own pleasure:

I don't know any of the players I play DoNs with in real life!!

I've had a long day of soul searching before posting this but I must be honest with myself and with you. I am a cheater because I say I don't know any of the players. How suspicious isn't it?

Arrest me!! Or have we switched to public hanging yet? I'm never afraid of trying something new.

Note: Nice teeth sharky!

Man, I picked the wrong time to play $52 DoNs. I played them between November 1st and February 28th with a net loss of $3676 over 1113 games, and now I've gone through and searched for these cheaters in my databank and found I had hundreds of games with them with a huuuuugely negative ROI. I can't imagine that Stars will give me anything even resembling the amount I lost due to these cheaters being in the games, on top of the fact that I was trying to start coaching DoNs at that time and it's hard to get students when you are in a $3600+ downswing in the game you are coaching. Stars will probably ship me $85 and a "good luck at the tables" message and expect me to smile and thank them for their good work.

same here...i had even a -1k day playing the 50s at this period ....i have more than 5k in buyins against cheaters....

no refund received yet...

Remove DONs

stop posting

robhimself, kzk- Spend a few hours going through all your games and try to figure out exactly how much you were cheated. Not just what games you were in with cheaters. Example, first hand of tourney you go all in with QQ and lose, this tourney you wouldn't be entitled to a refund. If you were being crushed on the bubble or near to it you would. Try and add them all up and when you get your refund as they said players would in the coming weeks compare how close it is and please post results here.

Do you also talk with those players and become friends with them on the internet also?? I think you are misunderstanding my comment.

These players are saying that because they only knew their friends through the internet that it is ok to play in the same SNGs with them. Some of them even admit to playing in the same SNGs with players while talking with them on AIM. Seems pretty sketchy to me.

I didn't know that the internet/AIM was no longer part of 'real life"

I hope malloc comes back and posts his evidence on dyna's cheating...still waiting for that.

It is very possible this thread has been partially hijacked by Chinese cheaters trying to save face.

At this stage banning DoN's or at least stopping players from playing at a table with a player from the same/country (or US state) seem the easiest options...

How else can they stop DoN teams before they have made a profit?

If they wait until they get a statistically significant samples for each new cheater to catch them then they will be still able to make a profit before they get caught (if they don't just switch out to a new ID often enough never to get caught).

I guess they could impose cash out time limits on every new player and watch carefully for any chip dumping but a restriction on players playing from the same country/state IP's seems a better bet.

DoN's have to be at real risk as they are so vulnerable to cheat teams (in DoNs one single softplay near/on the bubble gives huge EV swings to the team members in a way that is not replicated as much in normal SNG's or at all in cash games..)

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