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Old 04-14-2010, 09:25 PM   #4441
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Re: Official CakePoker Feedback Thread

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This is of course very poor analysis. In fact you illustrated the exact opposite of your point. If there is a limited fish pool then rewarding high volume mediocre regs is the worst strategy possible.
OK now I'm confused (easily done )

Instead of rewarding high volume mediocre regs who provide traffic and take the fishes money slowly, you propose that Cake discourages them so that there are fewer games, populated by aggressive sharks who take the fishes money quickly?
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Old 04-14-2010, 09:31 PM   #4442
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Re: Official CakePoker Feedback Thread

Although every large site does it, rewarding high volume players is bound to create an environment with a low percentage of casual players in seats.

OTOH having a system with say, all rewards coming through freeroll tournaments open to everyone, would have no grinders and wouldn't be able to get the traffic needed to keep the poor players around.
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Old 04-14-2010, 09:32 PM   #4443
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Here's a hint: you don't pay rake and the people that do are no longer around.

Frazier, you don't pay rake. You're leaching.
Haha. I hate to break it to you, but even the ****ty shortstacking retards pay rake.

Just for the record, I am not a shortstacker.

I didn't vote for Obama, but I really like this spreading the wealth stuff.
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Old 04-14-2010, 09:35 PM   #4444
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Haha. I hate to break it to you, but even the ****ty shortstacking retards pay rake.
Hey! Play nice!

I am not ****ty
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:45 PM   #4445
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Re: Official CakePoker Feedback Thread

Kedu. You are not making sense now. Look at Stars.....take a long look. Their reward system is essentially the exact same thing as Cake. It rewards you more based on much you play. The entire reward system on Stars is supposed to get more people to 24 table (thus generating more rake for the site) to achieve Supernova and Supernova Elite. Under your analysis sir......the site would be awful. Yet somehow its by far the biggest poker site in the world. For the last time.....the reward system is not the problem and it has nothing to do with solving it. Things take time and I truly believe that Cake will continue to slowly grow, and will become much more relevant is we get some clear skies concerning the legal landscape of poker. Stop posting non-sense that is clearly self serving.
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:51 PM   #4446
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Re: Official CakePoker Feedback Thread

Good job, cutting the guaranties in ALL of the guaranteed tournies almost in half.
Nightly 10k is now 5k... 20k is 15k, 17.5k is 12.5k, 4.5k is 2.5k, 125k is 100k.
But Cake doesn't think traffic will decrease dramatically....if so why the cut?
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:57 AM   #4447
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lol sweet job with the guarantees...

Myself and a bunch of guys I stake won't be playing there anymore. With the lower guar's and the crappy payout structure it's just not worth it...
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:01 AM   #4448
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I'm looking to replay my cake hands in video. I was planning to convert my hands then upload them in popops universal replayer.

Does anyone know if this place is safe?

http://www.feltpoker.com/tools/cake-...and-converter/

Thanks guys
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:26 AM   #4449
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Yeah do fish care if the rakeback is contributed or dealt?

Nitty grinders like myself do. I would never play on Cake again if they made the change, but maybe that is the goal of some posters ITT, to get rid of the rakeback grinders. That's fine, but it isn't going to increase traffic or the amount of fish, which should be the main goal.

Fish do care about ppl timing out, although thats not that bad than on stars. And nitty grinders like you are known for that kinda stuff. Taking the 99% of the timebank just to fold 72o UTG. Did you ever see a fish write "zzzzzzzz", i see it all the time.

Granted though contributed rake might not be the cure for AIDS.



Maybe cake should do sth to get more tables started, because all the people sitting on waitlists wont help either. (you could either get rid of the waitlists or reward table starters) I dont know what fish do, but i always thought they dont go on a waitlist. Do they start a SnG instead of a cash game? Do they have a 2nd poker client and go there? i dont know, but having tables open all the time cant hurt.
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:45 AM   #4450
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Fish do care about ppl timing out, although thats not that bad than on stars. And nitty grinders like you are known for that kinda stuff. Taking the 99% of the timebank just to fold 72o UTG. Did you ever see a fish write "zzzzzzzz", i see it all the time.

Granted though contributed rake might not be the cure for AIDS.



Maybe cake should do sth to get more tables started, because all the people sitting on waitlists wont help either. (you could either get rid of the waitlists or reward table starters) I dont know what fish do, but i always thought they dont go on a waitlist. Do they start a SnG instead of a cash game? Do they have a 2nd poker client and go there? i dont know, but having tables open all the time cant hurt.
Very interesting point. Never really thought about that....but its very true. When I first started playing at party poker I always hated being on waiting lists. Lee....this could be an interesting idea....not sure how you get to the point of having more tables open, but I think its worth looking into. Good observation.
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Old 04-15-2010, 06:03 AM   #4451
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Very interesting point. Never really thought about that....but its very true. When I first started playing at party poker I always hated being on waiting lists. Lee....this could be an interesting idea....not sure how you get to the point of having more tables open, but I think its worth looking into. Good observation.
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Old 04-15-2010, 06:32 AM   #4452
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This is just my opinion......
I just played at Play Aces at the Merge Network. The interface is awful.....I mean awful. There is absolutely no way any of us are going to stay on here and play after playing on the cake network. The cake network is ten thousand times better....I don't mean to go overboard, but I really think Merge is that bad. Playing on there for an hour made me realize just how good cake, stars, and tilt actually are.
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Old 04-15-2010, 06:41 AM   #4453
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Re: Official CakePoker Feedback Thread

Usually how long does neteller cashouts take?
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Old 04-15-2010, 08:27 AM   #4454
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Usually how long does neteller cashouts take?
2-3 days. Maybe longer on the weekends.
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Old 04-15-2010, 10:17 AM   #4455
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This is just my opinion......
I just played at Play Aces at the Merge Network. The interface is awful.....I mean awful. There is absolutely no way any of us are going to stay on here and play after playing on the cake network. The cake network is ten thousand times better....I don't mean to go overboard, but I really think Merge is that bad. Playing on there for an hour made me realize just how good cake, stars, and tilt actually are.

Agreed. I hate the Merge network and this new Play Aces site. The lobbies are just plain ugly and the freezing and glitching is horrible. I was looking through their tournies just now and the buy-ins are a joke. I know it's still early, but the traffic seems very low even with the PO and SB players on the network now. I think they will seriously regret this decision.
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