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I am extremely glad and thankful that you reported this situation to bovada and posted on 2+2. Playing anon tables, I knew collusion was a possibility or even a likelihood but nobody is completely certain until someone like you bring this incident into light.

I was completely certain. Collusion exists on every site. There have been similar threads like this about every site. Although Im glad OP reported a colluder, and its reasonable to post about it and or discuss the effects of anonymous tables with regards to policing collusion, I find the general concept of his OP, I heard of a player colluding so everyone should stop playing on the site and withdraw all of their money immediately because every table is filled with cheaters, a somewhat gross and irrational overreaction.

The only thing I learned from this thread is that OPs friends are a bunch of cheating scumbags.

Last edited by 5thStreetHog; 04-23-2014 at 07:03 PM.

04-23-2014 , 07:47 PM

#52

epicfailer

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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog

I was completely certain. Collusion exists on every site. There have been similar threads like this about every site. Although Im glad OP reported a colluder, and its reasonable to post about it and or discuss the effects of anonymous tables with regards to policing collusion, I find the general concept of his OP, I heard of a player colluding so everyone should stop playing on the site and withdraw all of their money immediately because every table is filled with cheaters, a somewhat gross and irrational overreaction.

The only thing I learned from this thread is that OPs friends are a bunch of cheating scumbags.

Where do I state that I heard it exists?? Please show me..If memory serves me correctly-I believe I stated that I witnessed it. Because I saw it with my own two eyes.

I'm done posting here..You can do what you like with your money..I took mine off the site

smfh

04-23-2014 , 08:04 PM

#53

5thStreetHog

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Originally Posted by epicfailer

Where do I state that I heard it exists?? Please show me..

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Originally Posted by epicfailer

Just finished traveling and overheard a convo at a fellow players house.

I never used the word exists. You just said that not me. I stated you said that you heard of a player colluding which is exactly from your OP.

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I'm done posting here..

Good. The truth is I find you not very credible and put a very low value in anything you say. Your mentality was exposed when you accused Mike and 2+2 of being paid off because Mike made a simple edit to your post. The level of absurdity in that ridiculous allegation and anyone that would make it simply can not be overstated.

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You can do what you like with your money..

I will.

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I took mine off the site smfh

K bye.

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04-23-2014 , 08:13 PM

#54

epicfailer

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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog

This seems like a stupid request since its right here on this page but whatever.

There you go. Now what?

Good. The truth is I find you not very credible and put a very low value in anything you say. Your mentality and idiocy was exposed when you accused Mike and 2+2 of being paid off because Mike made a simple edit to your post.

I will.

K bye.

thats funny--maybe you should read all the posts and not just the first one..The doc was prolly right--Your son has ADHD mam..

I do believe that your 2+2 god apologized to me. But then again you didn't read past the first page.

You should be proud of those thousand of posts you have under your belt. Clearly your'e accomplished and your calling has been met..

Good luck dbag

04-23-2014 , 08:20 PM

#55

Mike Haven

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Originally Posted by epicfailer

I'm done posting here..

Good to hear. You are one unpleasant mofo, imo.

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Originally Posted by epicfailer

The doc was prolly right--Your son has ADHD mam..

Good luck dbag

Oh. You're back to spew a little more venom.

04-23-2014 , 10:35 PM

#56

epicfailer

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Originally Posted by Mike Haven

Good to hear. You are one unpleasant mofo, imo.

Oh. You're back to spew a little more venom.

I have been nice imo..If I said something like this

Drink your mothers piss or
Eat your fathers **** or
Hopefully we could meet so i could rip ur arm off and beat you w it...or
I would rip ur dixk off and shove it up your ass- Then you could walk around with your dixk in your ass-wouldnt that be fun=good times

Thats venom

have a hot cup of go **** yourself---yea thats venom too i guess

I love you Mr Haven...U lil ****

Last edited by Mike Haven; 04-24-2014 at 06:59 AM.

04-23-2014 , 11:12 PM

#57

ggnoobs

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epicfailer seems upset.

04-23-2014 , 11:17 PM

#58

Wardan

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epic, u mAd br0??????????????

04-23-2014 , 11:37 PM

#59

ultimatecurse

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its fulll of house players imo.

04-23-2014 , 11:50 PM

#60

5thStreetHog

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Originally Posted by ultimatecurse

its fulll of house players imo.

Yeah, but considering that about one hundred of your one hundred and sixty two posts since you joined this site have been about how every site you ever played on is cheating you with rigged RNGs, house robots, Jedi mind tricks, Chupacabras that have access to doom switches, voodoo, and any other imaginary reason you can invent for losing, no one really cares what you think regarding the presence of house players on Bovada. You probably dont even understand what a house player even is to be honest. Its just another thing you have heard of that you can cry about and scapegoat for your losses.

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04-24-2014 , 12:14 AM

#61

crabbyface

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You're epic alright an epic jagoff

04-24-2014 , 12:48 AM

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5thStreetHog

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Just for a quick explanation as to why I dismissed UC`s accusation so quickly for people that arent familiar with him fwiw.

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I think its rigged. One guy told me that its all based on depositing and withdrawing money. if you with draw the cards run bad for you. IF you deposit you run good but if you don't deposit within a few weeks it triggers for cards to run bad for you.

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I definitely agree with this. that they rig it once they think your addicted and a stable customer so you dont run good.

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online poker is 100 percnet rigged. If that site want you to win you will win. if they want you to lose you will lose It doesn't matter what 2 cards you hold the odds dont' matter.

Regarding all sites in general cheating him.^

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merge has let this guy bad beat me every single game i played him

Regarding Merge cheating him.^

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Nice little set up by revolution. they should just leave a message before the game starts you lose and he wins.

Regarding Revolution cheating him.^

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people say oh thats poker ya it happens once in awhile not every day im listing hands by day a lot of them lless then 10% continually hitting some how on sportsbooks rng

Regarding some sportsbook site cheating him^.

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This software engineer actually emailed me was looking at my hands. He was explaining to me its not the rng that the problem its the poker algorithm. I was in match and he was watching right now actually. And he said oh wow aa. I said ya im a put him all in. He said you will probably get bad beat here. This guys is down to his last money and if you win here hes going to be broke. He said it doesn't matter his 2 cards he will bad beat you here and win this hand. So this is what happens he ends up with quads. I said yep its 3rd time in a row now i have had thes guys on the ropes i get aa and they win the all in situation and come back in the match and start running good. He said online poker is set up for rake. he said your just going to get bad beat a lot and it really doesn't matter what you have the poker sites will even out the playing field with there poker algorithm and the rng has to do with it that it is random. He also said people have made videos proving that online poker software is flawed and all of videos with statistical proof were removed from the online community. but this is the hand right here.

Regarding Ultimate Poker cheating him.^

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I think they got workers all over the site just like ub. You wont ever win a hand against these so called regs. You got a boat they got a better one. You got a flush they got a better one. Yo ugot aa vs kk they flop a king. You win maybe 1 hand out of 10 all ins and maybe hit 1 out of 20 board textures. they are hitting like 9 out of 10 of them. There is just no way your going to beat them. and then when you do have them beat and put them all in they river you. That magic612 is right this craps a scam imo. I definitely believe him now. Its just to frequent. Its why online poker is continaully dying. I see less and less traffic every day. When you lose the trust from customers you lose business. They need some real regulation some real rng like real deal poker site. And do this right. Everyone is tired of being cheated. Some of these players i see what city they are from in the usa and i go to look up the city there is no city by that name in usa. These aren't real players.

Regarding Winning Network cheating him.^

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I wanted to see if your rake back was working right so i played a guy for 100 bucks heads up. I left with 15.50 profit. So the rake was 84.50. yo uguys raked me for 42.25 half of what i was raked. What kind of deal is that? I am getting short changed on rake? so all these cash games i been playing you guys are cutting the rake in half so idont get as much rake back. So instead 36% rake back we are getting 18%. I am sickness1 on intertops. You can check my account i played 510 hands vs 1m6slin8. on 7/7/13. My rake should be well over 130 dolalrs and on my account it says i only been raked for 78 dollars so my rake back is way less then what it should be.

Regarding how Intertops was cheating him out of his rakeback which they obviously werent.^

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No way he folds aq and no way he calls down with 10 high in that spot unless hes cheating. Thats obvious cheating. I will not deposit on that site. I was actually considering trying it out but with players be anonymous is open season for people to cheat. That guy calls down with 10 high but folds aq? Thats impossible. Saying he miss clicked is just making me roll my eyes when the guy is calling down with 10 and 9 high air balls. So he miss clicked 3 times? Get real.

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Pot ripper did the same thing. He would call down and not raise so you can bunk that theory. Its funny how many people try to make excuses when obvious cheating is involved. This is obvious.

On Bovada cheating players with superusers after reading a new poster make the accusation. The kid posted a couple fake hand histories it turned out. There was no superuser obviously.^

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well i know a guy whos uncle worked for one of these poker sites. His uncle said all the games are rigged and they put you on a level. Depending how much money is in your account. the more money you got the more they set it up for the rng to work against you. So they set it up for the opponents to hit a lot of hands. The guys who win consistently he said are people that work for the site to create action. Everyone else he said has no chance of really winning its set up for you actually to be a break even player if your good. And if your bad doesn't matter they know your goig to lose anyways so they give you lots of hands. he said you will notice your opponents hitting flushes straights 2 pairs so it levels out the playing field. they constantly suck out keeps the games going amd they make more rake. Thats what his uncle said makes since to me. he said he wouldn't touch those sites with 10 foot pole there all set up for regs to break even or lose. he said they ask for all your information to when you want to cash out so they can figure out how much money you got in your bank accounts. just play for fun on these sites is my advice.

On how his friends uncle proved he was being cheating by online poker sites.^

Thats just a sample. There is tons more.

04-24-2014 , 01:28 AM

#63

slightly_triggered

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Lol

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04-24-2014 , 07:02 AM

#64

Mike Haven

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Originally Posted by epicfailer

Why would you say that?? "Dick" isn't censored here.

04-24-2014 , 08:13 AM

#65

ZeckoRiver

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Originally Posted by crabbyface

You're epic alright an epic jagoff

I guess op was bluffing when he said he was quitting this thread. I give him 2 days before a perma ban.

04-24-2014 , 02:32 PM

#66

vortex91

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I'm a semi krusty reg on merge and lol at this thread... I wouldn't play non hu cash games on bovada personally... actually i've thus far refused to play on bovada at all with their anon names, mtt's maybe eventually depending on how soft they are... but id rather the traffic switch to a network with accountable names and tracking which is only merge as a solid option atm that i'm aware of unless you count p5's semi tracking of wpn...

04-24-2014 , 03:19 PM

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AAismyfriend

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epicfailer.....sounds about right lol

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