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10-02-2014 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Lessu
So someone hacks Party and then leaks an email?
Have you ran any scans on your machine?

This is the type of fun hackers get of on like a calling card they need the mail server to:

Send out spam email.
Launch attacks against other servers. Thus, consuming your CPU, memory, and bandwidth resources.
Install a phishing website on your server to gain access to sensitive information
Passwords.
Privilege escalation(very important)

this list is not exhaustive but you get the picture.
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10-02-2014 , 10:33 AM
So your simplest explanation is that someone joined 2 + 2 in Nov 2012, hacked Lessu's computer, coincidentally also a 2 + 2er, posted a mildly edited version of one of his emails as the OP, then went inactive?

Seems likely.
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10-02-2014 , 10:36 AM
I have a new theory. Aliens read Lessu's mind then projected his thoughts into wrongfoot's and compelled him to post. They were going to invade and steal our mineral wealth, but decided to mess with 2 + 2 instead.
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10-02-2014 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
So your simplest explanation is that someone joined 2 + 2 in Nov 2012, hacked Lessu's computer, coincidentally also a 2 + 2er, posted a mildly edited version of one of his emails as the OP, then went inactive?

Seems likely.
I hope the security team at your client/platform are more IT literate than yourself Sciolist.

Being sole responsible at times for hundreds of thousands of my dollars on my PC has made me more IT literate than most support guys you ring for help.

Lessu should as a priority be scanning for virus, change passwords ect Is OP is a Hacker? but why does every poster assume he/she works for Party?

Party also should be conducting investigations regarding this breach.
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10-02-2014 , 10:50 AM
Undercover Pro, do you think that the moon landings were fake? Do you think that the government is spreading mind control drugs from the trails of airplanes?

You are having trouble comparing what could technically be possible with what is actually likely. I'd have thought that a poker player would have better knowledge of odds than that.
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10-02-2014 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
Undercover Pro, do you think that the moon landings were fake? Do you think that the government is spreading mind control drugs from the trails of airplanes?

You are having trouble comparing what could technically be possible with what is actually likely. I'd have thought that a poker player would have better knowledge of odds than that.
LOL Bee in bonnet today is the saying yes.

Show me one bit of proof this guy/girl works for Party?Or Party leaked this E-mail one of a number of possible scenarios granted.

Technically very easy to hack a mail server this site was hacked!I know of three Poker websites that have been hacked one had a lot of staking funds stolen and went out of business.

Ring your IT guys before you comment on what could technically be possible
before post ya!
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10-02-2014 , 10:59 AM
Your theory is utterly absurd. That's what you honestly think is the most likely possibility? You think that you can disguise that by being condescending to me and saying it's technically possible. I predict that you think global warming was invented by scientists.
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10-02-2014 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by UnderCover_Pro
but why does every poster assume he/she works for Party?

Party also should be conducting investigations regarding this breach.
occam's razor

and party is investigating.
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10-02-2014 , 11:07 AM
cliffs?
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10-02-2014 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
Your theory is utterly absurd. That's what you honestly think is the most likely possibility? You think that you can disguise that by being condescending to me and saying it's technically possible. I predict that you think global warming was invented by scientists.
LOL Coffee to hot at work today! air condition turned off hahaha,

I just point out it is one of a number of possible entirely plausible scenarios as the case with this being posted by Party employee although OPs posting history does not suggest this, he/she does in fact goes a little tin foil hat in his/her previous posts.


Posted By OP wrongfoot:


@ Superior Writer
Wednesday is too long for me to remember you mate, it will be done by tonight.

I didnt get any Bonuses on my old Account for the simple reason that I survived on Staking.

Rest all nothing much to say, just hope Stars relaxes this ludicrously abnormal condition of banning and confiscating on Multi Accounts, but if you strongly believe that its a Sin and next only to using Bots or Seating scripts, then I will reconsider but seriously not the ethos of online poker that I was bought up on.

But the group of Arm Chair Experts and Key Board warriors are already viewing my stint with two Accounts as a sinful Bigamy. And I choose to disagree with you and the Monopoly of Online POker sites like Stars etc permanently.


OP admits to some shady practice is he doing this while working at Party?Is he/she posting history just a front to create back story when Party shill all along?

Last edited by UnderCover_Pro; 10-02-2014 at 11:18 AM.
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10-02-2014 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by UnderCover_Pro
LOL Coffee to hot at work today! air condition turned off hahaha,
I know it's easy to blame other people, but when you say something stupid you should really look at yourself first.
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10-02-2014 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by UnderCover_Pro
I hope the security team at your client/platform are more IT literate than yourself Sciolist.

Being sole responsible at times for hundreds of thousands of my dollars on my PC has made me more IT literate than most support guys you ring for help.

Lessu should as a priority be scanning for virus, change passwords ect Is OP is a Hacker? but why does every poster assume he/she works for Party?

Party also should be conducting investigations regarding this breach.
Yeah, nonsense. If you knew what you said you knew, you'd know "scanning for viruses" is completely useless. Your theories are outlandish and the suggestion that OP's post is a hacker "calling card" is laughable.
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10-02-2014 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hood
Yeah, nonsense. If you knew what you said you knew, you'd know "scanning for viruses" is completely useless. Your theories are outlandish and the suggestion that OP's post is a hacker "calling card" is laughable.
Let me make this clear I never said in one post OP is a hacker I have said Partys e-mail server could have been hacked.As for virus the point was that lessu should be running security checks on the machine E-mail sent from as a precaution.

OP posted about bots on a french poker site acrfrance(still running) total independent of Party Poker nothing links the two he works for them now?

OP has admitted shady dealings and even mentions hacking in previous post.
Is he/she hacker I do not know.

So much Dumb ITT its like hacking never happens or is so technically hard its next to impossible.I find it amazing that for posters who play a logical game with limited information assume this is not a scenario and OP must work for Party case closed!
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10-02-2014 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by UnderCover_Pro
So much Dumb in UnderCover_Pro's posts
FYP
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10-02-2014 , 01:21 PM
I have more info that OP may be a hacker after all.
He/she posted this.


And for the 2p2 PS same server, there was a seminar I attended in Duesseldorf last September where during part of some exercise when I got Stars and its servers I also got a notifcation that Two Plus Two is also on same server. So i made up eversince that there is some nexus. The roots were going to UK. As my technology awareness is limited I cant throw more light but this is it.

Now in light of the outlandish claims one could just throw this comment away but the questions are:

What seminar/ exercise involves identifying servers also Nexus is an web based e-mail client.Nmap is used by hackers for this for vulnerability detection.
this is penetration testing in other words hacking.
OP is trying to identify servers for what exactly?
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10-02-2014 , 02:57 PM
Please just delete Undercover's posts and the related discussion. Adds nothing relevant to the thread.
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10-02-2014 , 02:59 PM
can anyone verify if eatfreshfood on ipoker fits the pattern of these two guys ? the ptr stats seem very similar
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10-02-2014 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wooosh
Please just delete Undercover's posts and the related discussion. Adds nothing relevant to the thread.

Hi wrongfoot,
do you work for Party?Did you leak this E-mail?
How this personal E-mail was posted on the boards is not relevant?
Whats your opinion or evidence of that?

wrongfoot disappears you join your first post is ITT 6 of your total 9 are ITT.

Last edited by UnderCover_Pro; 10-02-2014 at 03:21 PM.
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10-02-2014 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by finethanks
can anyone verify if eatfreshfood on ipoker fits the pattern of these two guys ? the ptr stats seem very similar
Could absolutely be "same player".
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10-02-2014 , 04:07 PM
great work guys. There has always been so much suspect stuff on party.

Truthfully I think there is a ton more bots out there - both large stack like jackaroo and shortstack (40BB).

Good to see we are on the right track - but as some have mentioned we shouldn't publicly discuss names. They will cash out funds and create new accounts - these guys have access to resources most normal people wouldn't.
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10-02-2014 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderCover_Pro
I have more info that OP may be a hacker after all.
He/she posted this.


And for the 2p2 PS same server, there was a seminar I attended in Duesseldorf last September where during part of some exercise when I got Stars and its servers I also got a notifcation that Two Plus Two is also on same server. So i made up eversince that there is some nexus. The roots were going to UK. As my technology awareness is limited I cant throw more light but this is it.
You're right, OP saying that 2+2 is on the same server as PS DEFINITELY makes your case more likely. You're on to a winner here, you should keep going!
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10-02-2014 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
You're right, OP saying that 2+2 is on the same server as PS DEFINITELY makes your case more likely. You're on to a winner here, you should keep going!
troll mode today.

I finish here for now here is how i see it.

The E-mail was leaked or passed on to OP from Party employee this raises serious questions on integrity and privacy this is breaking law in some country's and makes Partys security look like child.

Some User in the line of communication was hacked.

There were over 90 million registered cyber attacks from Russia last year like the bots this is serious organized criminals making serious money from all types of disgusting crimes.

I do not want to detract from the Bot issue anymore.
I am interested in Partys response if one is coming.
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10-02-2014 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by skinnybob123
great work guys. There has always been so much suspect stuff on party.

Truthfully I think there is a ton more bots out there - both large stack like jackaroo and shortstack (40BB).

Good to see we are on the right track - but as some have mentioned we shouldn't publicly discuss names. They will cash out funds and create new accounts - these guys have access to resources most normal people wouldn't.
I agree that there are a ****load of bots (or whatever you might call them) left even when Jackaroo and BluDevill have been removed. There are so so so so many 40bb:ers that play extremely similar and who gives you a bad vibe that something is off about them.
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10-02-2014 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderCover_Pro
The E-mail was leaked or passed on to OP from Party employee this raises serious questions on integrity and privacy this is breaking law in some country's and makes Partys security look like child.
Well, we agree to this point.
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10-02-2014 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderCover_Pro
He/she posted this.


And for the 2p2 PS same server, there was a seminar I attended in Duesseldorf last September where during part of some exercise when I got Stars and its servers I also got a notifcation that Two Plus Two is also on same server. So i made up eversince that there is some nexus. The roots were going to UK. As my technology awareness is limited I cant throw more light but this is it.

Now in light of the outlandish claims one could just throw this comment away but the questions are:

What seminar/ exercise involves identifying servers also Nexus is an web based e-mail client.Nmap is used by hackers for this for vulnerability detection.
this is penetration testing in other words hacking.
OP is trying to identify servers for what exactly?
LOL, I had completely forgotten that OP was *that* guy. All your post does is provide some pretty good evidence that a hacker is the last thing he is. Post after post he argued that Poker Stars and 2+2 were on the same servers, even though the idea defied all logic and common sense, and then in the post you've pasted, he finally confesses that he really has no idea what he's talking about WRT to the technical "evidence" he said he had.

And that was quite some time after he made similar suggestions with another account:

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Originally Posted by SpokSir
The Domains of Stars and 2p2 are maintained on the same Servers somewhere in middle of UK. This to an extent explains why so many many posters are so pro Stars and few Pro Party..2p2 is not the forum it used to be when all that was discussed was pure poker game quality of customer service..Roman Empire Fell, British are not that lethal, Manchester United is in disarray & Though I want Stars Party Tilt to all be forever, such monopoly will soon be closed.. it happens to the private owned Casinos in the late 80 now its Poker Sites turn..for its sickening if Poker Forums become propaganda institute for Clout Sites... Disgrace and Disrespect
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
LOL, what? Do you just make up whatever information fits your theory?

TwoPlusTwo is, and always has been, based in Nevada, and its servers have always been in the US AFAIK.


It does? Even if you were right that 2+2's servers were in the UK, how would that affect what poker site 2+2 posters support?
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Originally Posted by SpokSir
Thats the thing, AFAIK, quite clearly you do not know very Far..

Am just telling that they have some patronised in house posters who come in support and influence the forum opinion more often than not.
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Wait, what? I point out that you're completely wrong about where 2+2 servers are located, and your response is that I "do not know very Far". What is that supposed to mean?


No, that's not all you were "just telling"; you claimed that 2+2 servers were based in the UK, which is completely incorrect.

So what is this last sentence supposed to mean? Are you now claiming that 2+2 is paying posters to post positive things about sites? That poker sites are? If you're claiming either (or both) of those things, do you have some evidence of this?
I find it pretty hard to believe that OP has the wherewithal to be pulling off any big hacks.
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