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09-30-2014 , 01:01 PM
I think the OP ran the bot accounts or was an associate of the people who ran them. He posted it here pretending to be some random person on the internet to create an explanation as to why the 2 account withdrew most of their account balance right after the e-mail was sent (they withdrew bc they saw some post on 2p2).

It makes sense that people running that kind of scam would corrupt employees at the websites to get info on whether they were being investigated.
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09-30-2014 , 01:12 PM
This whole thread has been one of the most interesting in a long while It is very frightening that a bot is winning 6bb/100 at 5/10. Its frightening E-mails are being leaked.
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09-30-2014 , 02:11 PM
Pretty sure they were smart enough not to keep loads of $ in the accouont.

They don`t seem like the stupid type to me

Anyways, very nice outcome.
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09-30-2014 , 02:22 PM
I've run some algorithms and felt my detective balls and also given them the magic rub and I can only come to one conclusion.

Looks like someone found some party pokers bots?????

Last edited by TopPair2Pair; 09-30-2014 at 02:22 PM. Reason: this thread is like a countdown conundrum
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09-30-2014 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderCover_Pro
This whole thread has been one of the most interesting in a long while It is very frightening that a bot is winning 6bb/100 at 5/10. Its frightening E-mails are being leaked.
+1, gg poker! I wonder where they'll move the bots next.
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09-30-2014 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderCover_Pro
This whole thread has been one of the most interesting in a long while It is very frightening that a bot is winning 6bb/100 at 5/10. Its frightening E-mails are being leaked.
On PTR, I believe the BB/100 number refers to big BETS (i.e. 2bb). Since Jackaroo won $150,000 in 120,000 hands of 5/10, it was actually beating 1000NL for 12bb/100.
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09-30-2014 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtySmokes
On PTR, I believe the BB/100 number refers to big BETS (i.e. 2bb). Since Jackaroo won $150,000 in 120,000 hands of 5/10, it was actually beating 1000NL for 12bb/100.
Yes correct my slip. No company is immune to hacking Russians are at the top of the chain for cybercriminals very professional and smart to think at least one gaming company has not been breached is foolish they are collecting stolen user data on mass scales.I for one avoid Russians online when I can due to some strange unorthodox play.

“ Russian Hackers did not just target U.S. companies, they targeted any website they could get, ranging from Fortune 500 companies to very small websites,” said Alex Holden, the founder and chief information security officer of Hold Security.

40 million credit card numbers and 70 million addresses, phone numbers and additional pieces of personal information were stolen from the retail giant Target

The list goes on and on.One reason i never went big on bitcoins wallet security.

Last edited by UnderCover_Pro; 09-30-2014 at 07:35 PM.
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10-01-2014 , 04:05 AM
Finally Party takes action, well done! However, if these two acc's were bots there surely are several more and not only repping Russia.
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10-01-2014 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Letricle
Finally Party takes action, well done! However, if these two acc's were bots there surely are several more and not only repping Russia.
The value also if this bot is making 250k Per Year It will make its owner lots of money in replication so we can expect lots more.I personally find it hard to digest that this "bot" beat up midstakes so badly in 2014 and feel there must be more to this but one can only speculate.
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10-01-2014 , 08:02 AM
Sooo the rake isn't that high if these bots are crushing the games... Interesting...
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10-01-2014 , 09:25 AM
just the timing tells they have are probably worth 3bb/100
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10-01-2014 , 11:40 AM
I would say 3.50
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10-01-2014 , 03:11 PM
well done, kill them. kill them all.
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10-01-2014 , 05:10 PM
Weird story. Surprised this isn't bigger news.
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10-01-2014 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by apokerplayer
Weird story. Surprised this isn't bigger news.
+1 This is outrageous...
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10-01-2014 , 06:31 PM
Wow Party actually did something about this, first good thing they have done for a while, pity they couldn't have detected them earlier though on their own

Nice work Lessu, all party regs owe you some beers now!
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10-01-2014 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by spaghetti
Wow Party actually did something about this, first good thing they have done for a while, pity they couldn't have detected them earlier though on their own

Nice work Lessu, all party regs owe you some beers now!
Just to be fair...It was myself who spearheaded it...I want some beers !! 400k worth of beers!!

This is what online poker is all about...Having each others backs and policing the games. We need ALL the regs to think and act more professionally like lessu/myself and other regs unnamed who help with the integrity of this game we use as a means to an end.
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10-01-2014 , 10:46 PM


malfunction time!
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10-01-2014 , 10:57 PM
Leesu,

Could it be possible that your e-mail itself was hacked? I would change passwords etc, just in case it was. How else could the word-for-word message get posted here?
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10-01-2014 , 11:00 PM
Another thing not mentioned about jackaroo and bluedevill specifically for anyone who has played with them is their random changes in preflop opening sizes. A lot of times one may go 2.5 or 2x from mp say if there's a shortie in the sb or something, but these 2 would go anywhere from 4x to min from every position seemingly at random. I've never seen any other players do this besides these 2 guys. If it were some advanced bot, its possible they added some sort of preflop sizing randomization to make them even less suspicious?
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10-01-2014 , 11:53 PM
Good work Lessu, Any2.
I started doing my own detective work because another evidence was that devil always played the same amount of hands heads-up before leaving when the table was breaking.

Why isn't there a thread in NVG to warn others? If they're on party, what stops the bots from entering other networks? People should be aware.
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10-02-2014 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Any2Cards2008
Just to be fair...It was myself who spearheaded it...I want some beers !! 400k worth of beers!!
Nice work too then! Beers are on me if your ever in Aus for sure
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10-02-2014 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by spaghetti
Wow Party actually did something about this, first good thing they have done for a while, pity they couldn't have detected them earlier though on their own

Nice work Lessu, all party regs owe you some beers now!
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Originally Posted by Any2Cards2008
Just to be fair...It was myself who spearheaded it...I want some beers !! 400k worth of beers!!

This is what online poker is all about...Having each others backs and policing the games. We need ALL the regs to think and act more professionally like lessu/myself and other regs unnamed who help with the integrity of this game we use as a means to an end.
Yeah A2C deserves as much credit as I do, if not more! If he didn't find the PTR stat similarities, they'd still be playing.

There have also been few other regs that haven't posted here but have supplied me with info about them so thanks go to them as well!

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Originally Posted by Bageled
Leesu,

Could it be possible that your e-mail itself was hacked? I would change passwords etc, just in case it was. How else could the word-for-word message get posted here?
First, it's Lessu. Second, if someone hacks my email (that is only used for Party and Skrill btw), all they do is leak a sent email to Partypoker about suspected bots in broken English? Third, I did check for you and the only IPs that have logged into the account are mine.

and for the "how else" part... some ideas have been thrown around in this thread...

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Originally Posted by Schlager233
Another thing not mentioned about jackaroo and bluedevill specifically for anyone who has played with them is their random changes in preflop opening sizes. A lot of times one may go 2.5 or 2x from mp say if there's a shortie in the sb or something, but these 2 would go anywhere from 4x to min from every position seemingly at random. I've never seen any other players do this besides these 2 guys. If it were some advanced bot, its possible they added some sort of preflop sizing randomization to make them even less suspicious?
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malfunction time!
Like I said in the party regs thread, I don't think they are bots, but they were breaking the rules in some other way. Unfortunately, it's up to Party whether we'll ever find out what rules they were. I think legally they don't need to and even can't reveal that info, though.

Hopefully they spread the confiscated funds from their accounts to people who have lost money to them. The rep I talked with didn't say they'll keep the money, at least not yet. I'll post as soon as I get an answer regarding that


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Originally Posted by spaghetti
Nice work too then! Beers are on me if your ever in Aus for sure
Don't make promises that you won't keep. He might just come take you up on the offer
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10-02-2014 , 02:59 AM
I think we should go back to why the OP was the same as Lessu's mail. That's more interesting than bots.
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10-02-2014 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Hood
Before that he was talking about multi-accounting on PokerStars. I didn't to a thorough look through post history, just saying it's not some zero-history account or a clear party-only poster. seems like a recreational online poker player with history on other sites and with english as a second language.
The weirdest thing is that wrongfoot (the OP of this thread, and suspected Party Poker insider) admitted to being a multi-accounter in a previous thread; the one in which he asserted that 2+2 and Pokerstars are the same company. :facepalm:

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You Moron thats not Cheating. I stopped playing on my Account and used my wife's instead as I wanted to start fresh. My Nova friends had some gambling problems, took a break and came back on wife's Account and is doing great. He is a pro from Australia by the way.

Definitely. iPoker does not hang you if you have two Accounts accidentally. They ask you to make a choice and choose one and stick to that. Party does exactly the same. No one takes your roll away for Multi Accounting innocuously without any simultaneous gameplay. Even stars as per my experience and that of my friends .
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Ok Truce. I made a fortune on Poker Stars. These guys were not able to know that I play on my Spouses Account too. Not until my latest fundout requests to my online wallet.

But tell me this. I saw this email from their Customer support who checked with his seniors before closing the OPs Account (Talk about independence there Son..Checked with Seniors, thats a Derp right there in their Support office)

What is annonymity advantage? From 2006-08 I played on my name. Last six years I have been playing on my wife's Account.
He also coined the charming phrase "GOOD GAME MANGALOIDS".

I really hope Party isn't employing him or his associates, but it seems likely that emails sent to the support team have leaked out to a rather strange individual.
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