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01-24-2013 , 08:39 AM
Bodog_ice, So I am wondering...Are you guys even taking any of our suggestions/complaints seriously?

This site has been around a long time and it appears your fine with it just coasting the way it is because you have players. Im a little upset because There is ZERO rakeback, and all these stupid points only turn to tourney tickets? Your slapping us cashgame regs in the face with that. Create points to cash if your not going to have rakeback!
01-24-2013 , 09:35 AM
Payment time?

I am a US customer and before I make a deposit, what is the wait time and what do they offer for US, check or WU payout?

Mike
01-24-2013 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerMikie
Payment time?

I am a US customer and before I make a deposit, what is the wait time and what do they offer for US, check or WU payout?

Mike

You might want to visit the thread titled Bodog (Bovada) payout thread for US players (DO NOT post bank names) for more information


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Kahn
01-24-2013 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
Here's something new...wtf is going on here?

+1

Anybody?

Plus, I deposited with a VISA and about a week later I got hit with a $1 "FOREIGN TRANSACTION FEE". Does anyone know anything about this?
01-24-2013 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dingo_khan
+1
Hit with a
1 "FOREIGN TRANSACTION FEE". :
LOL @ hit with. Best Adjective to describe a 1 dollar fee
01-24-2013 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dingo_khan
+1

Anybody?

Plus, I deposited with a VISA and about a week later I was charged a $1 "FOREIGN TRANSACTION FEE". Does anyone know anything about this?
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Originally Posted by Duchess
LOL @ hit with. Best Adjective to describe a 1 dollar fee

I fixed my own post, I wouldn't want you to LOL and spill your drink on your blouse.

01-24-2013 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Duchess
Bodog_ice, So I am wondering...Are you guys even taking any of our suggestions/complaints seriously?

This site has been around a long time and it appears your fine with it just coasting the way it is because you have players. Im a little upset because There is ZERO rakeback, and all these stupid points only turn to tourney tickets? Your slapping us cashgame regs in the face with that. Create points to cash if your not going to have rakeback!
You have to understand what Ice's position is. He's not a Bodog employee; he's a consultant. He takes the ideas posted in this forum and sends them to some Bodog employee who then gives him back generic responses. Ice has no power to do anything other than pass along suggestions. I assume he can pass them to someone higher up than one of us emailing or calling support, but that's it.

As far as rakeback, you're never going to get it. That's just the way it is. Bodog has said this several times, and it flat out isn't going to happen.
01-24-2013 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Duchess
Bodog_ice, So I am wondering...Are you guys even taking any of our suggestions/complaints seriously?

This site has been around a long time and it appears your fine with it just coasting the way it is because you have players. Im a little upset because There is ZERO rakeback, and all these stupid points only turn to tourney tickets? Your slapping us cashgame regs in the face with that. Create points to cash if your not going to have rakeback!
You seem to be totally confused about Bodog.

They couldnt care less about what poker players want period.

They charge twice as much in rake as other poker sites and do everything within their power to take every edge they can away from winning players to try to level the playing field to create even more rake.

They have publicly flaunted those facts as their great new poker business model under the blanket of creating a better poker economy.

Its true that their poker economy is now better, for them.

As for players, the games are the same, its always been the sportsbook that brought in the rec players, the only difference is that all players pay much more rake.

Its up to you to decide if the games you play are worth paying all the extra rake at the end of the day. Some believe they are, others choose to play elsewhere. GL.
01-24-2013 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
Here's something new...wtf is going on here?

Eek.. not sure. I haven't noticed it happening.. but if you, or anyone else, notices it.. please give me details (table, current or last hh number, time)

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Originally Posted by OmahaImHigh
Better tournaments. BOGGLES my mind their is no $100 dollar pl omaha hi low scheduled tournament on the weekend. OR a $50 dollar pl omaha hi low scheduled tournament weekly during the week their is enough hi low players to warrant this. Atleast a 5-10 dollar hi low rebuy with addon during the week at the minimum.. Its just common sense.

I will pass your suggestions along. The Bodog Network has been happy with the growth the both plo and o8 has had, and they are always looking for places to expand even more when they believe it will be successful.

Also every other site has a series at the beginning of the year... where r you bodog/bovada? Biggest tournament 10k a night isnt cutting it anymore. It goes atleast 2k over gurantee every night averaging 300 players.

The first series of 2012, Black Diamond Poker Open, started in early February and lasted just over a month.. so I imagine I will have information on Black Diamond Poker Open 2 to pass along soon.

Bring Back nicknames it brings so much life back into poker. And noob players can still win the way the software is anyway so the fish will remain.

This is a change that the Bodog Network is very happy with and has no interest in changing. The move toward the recreational player model, which includes the switch over to the anonymous tables, has been successful for the network and has created a very healthy place for players to play.

Turn off the chat filter or atleast make it reasonable. I can type ass with no problem but if i type whole it blocks it out. <-- ridicolous..

Half of the pre buttons dont work MAIN 1 being fold or call buttons before action gets to you.

20 seconds to play or sitout. to many players stall from the start of the tournament which i do not understand. It makes the player miserable for every player which in the end makes people not play on the site.

This, and other issues, are being worked on and I do hope that we’ll see an improvement on these soon.
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Originally Posted by Duchess
Bodog_ice, So I am wondering...Are you guys even taking any of our suggestions/complaints seriously?

Absolutely! Like I’ve said before, I am playing on the network nearly every day and run across many of the same issues that you guys do.. so it is also in my interest to help the network improve and grow.

This site has been around a long time and it appears your fine with it just coasting the way it is because you have players. Im a little upset because There is ZERO rakeback, and all these stupid points only turn to tourney tickets? Your slapping us cashgame regs in the face with that. Create points to cash if your not going to have rakeback!

Not at all.. the network is actively looking for ways to improve, most recently with the addition of a new operator in TLC88. The network has added a native mac client and added new languages (all of which help add new players) amongst other improvements. Unfortunately, points to cash and other forms of rakeback is something that the Bodog Network is not interested in offer as part of their recreational model. You are more than welcome to email your operator and suggest that they add more options, but the Network is more interested in using this money for finding and keeping the recreational players that keep the games running as they are.
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
They charge twice as much in rake
No, not really.


And as usual.. any question, comments, suggestions, or torches and pitch-forks... please send them my way

Ice
01-24-2013 , 10:32 PM
I read through some posts and didn't see it suggested, but I am sure it has been discussed previously. But, can we please get synchronized breaks? If you're going to give us the option to play 20 mtts at the same time then breaks at different points of the tournament serve no purpose.

Every other site that I've played on has synchronized breaks. It just makes sense. It can't be that difficult to add to the software, can it?

As a person who likes to play 4-6 tournaments at a time because I'll get bored otherwise, the 5 minute break would be greatly appreciated. Sometimes I just need 5 minutes to refocus, go to the bathroom, get some water, etc., and it's really difficult to do when all the tournament breaks are at different times.
01-24-2013 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bodog_Ice
No, not really.
Yes, really.

Its not uncommon for players to get 50%+ in rakeback or equivalent at some sites.

If Bodog is giving players virtually nothing, are you arguing they arent charging twice as much rake when both sites use the same industry standard rake?

Am I wrong here as you implied?

Last edited by 5thStreetHog; 01-24-2013 at 10:45 PM.
01-24-2013 , 10:45 PM
And just like that.. I am happy to announce that the details for Black Diamond Poker Open 2 are now available:

Like last year, it will be 2 series:

The Contender Series

Starts Sunday, February 10th and wraps up Sunday, February 24th

43 events, with buyins ranging from $3.30 to $55. The Main Event ($55) will have a $30,000 guarantee on it. The series will have over $150,000 in guarantees.

Expect 2 nightly events during the week (for those of us in the Western hemisphere).. plus a morning event to attract our Asian players.

Satellites will begin February 4th and conclude February 23rd.

The Championship Series

This bigger series starts March 10th and ends on Sunday, March 24th.

As with the Contender, there will be 43 events.. with 2 each night and 1 in the morning during the week. Buyins will range from $22 to $425. The $425 Main Event will have a $250,000 guarantee on it.. and the Championship Series will have over $700,000 worth of guarantees.

Satellites for most Championship Events will start February 25th and will conclude March 23rd. Satellites for the Main Event will start February 4th.

Last edited by Bodog_Ice; 01-24-2013 at 11:12 PM.
01-24-2013 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
Yes, really.

Its not uncommon for players to get 50%+ in rakeback or equivalent at some sites.

If Bodog is giving players virtually nothing, are you arguing they arent charging twice as much rake when both sites use the same industry standard rake?

Am I wrong here as you implied?
Yes.. you are incorrect. The network does not charge twice as much rake. Also, operators on the network are giving out lots of value in promotions and give aways. On top of that, as you pointed out, the network does promote a recreation model.. which keeps games softer than at other sites. If you have any more questions about this.. please send them to me via pm.
01-24-2013 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
I read through some posts and didn't see it suggested, but I am sure it has been discussed previously. But, can we please get synchronized breaks? If you're going to give us the option to play 20 mtts at the same time then breaks at different points of the tournament serve no purpose.

Every other site that I've played on has synchronized breaks. It just makes sense. It can't be that difficult to add to the software, can it?

As a person who likes to play 4-6 tournaments at a time because I'll get bored otherwise, the 5 minute break would be greatly appreciated. Sometimes I just need 5 minutes to refocus, go to the bathroom, get some water, etc., and it's really difficult to do when all the tournament breaks are at different times.
It has been addressed before.. but it has been awhile. The network has no interest in adding sync breaks at this time.
01-24-2013 , 11:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodog_Ice
And just like that.. I am happy to announce that the details for Black Diamond Poker Open 2 are now available:

Like last year, it will be 2 series:

The Contender Series

Starts Sunday, February 10th and wraps up Sunday, February 24th

43 events, with buyins ranging from $3.30 to $55. The Main Event ($55) will have a $30,000 guarantee on it. The series will have over $150,000 in guarantees.

Expect 2 nightly events during the week (for those of us in the Western hemisphere).. plus a morning event to attract our Asian players.

Satellites will begin February 4th and conclude February 23rd.

The Championship Series

This bigger series starts March 10th and ends on Sunday, March 24th.

As with the Contender, there will be 43 events.. with 2 each night and 1 in the morning during the week. Buyins will range from $22 to $425. The $425 Main Event will have a $250,000 guarantee on it.. and the Championship Series will have over $700,000 worth of guarantees.

Satellites for most Championship Events will start February 25th and will conclude March 23rd. Satellites for the Main Event will start February 4th.
Will there be any promotions tied to the BDPO? Like an MVP contest or tickets added to contender events for entry into championship events? thanks...
01-25-2013 , 12:38 AM
Bodog ice, I'm a new acct and deposited by way of visa last time and paid no fee, now they want to charge me aprox 5%. Is there a better way to deposit money. Ty ice
01-25-2013 , 05:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
You have to understand what Ice's position is. He's not a Bodog employee; he's a consultant. He takes the ideas posted in this forum and sends them to some Bodog employee who then gives him back generic responses. Ice has no power to do anything other than pass along suggestions. I assume he can pass them to someone higher up than one of us emailing or calling support, but that's it.

As far as rakeback, you're never going to get it. That's just the way it is. Bodog has said this several times, and it flat out isn't going to happen.
That I did not know. Wasn't trying to sounds annoyed by him its more the fact that bovada literally says your our bitch to our faces because they know that we can't do anything about it.
01-25-2013 , 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dingo_khan
I fixed my own post, I wouldn't want you to LOL and spill your drink on your blouse.

Well in fact if I did happen to lol and spill on my blouse I would certainly go put on a new one after my session is over
sayyy whaaaaat!!!
01-25-2013 , 05:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5thStreetHog
You seem to be totally confused about Bodog.

They couldnt care less about what poker players want period.

They charge twice as much in rake as other poker sites and do everything within their power to take every edge they can away from winning players to try to level the playing field to create even more rake.

They have publicly flaunted those facts as their great new poker business model under the blanket of creating a better poker economy.

Its true that their poker economy is now better, for them.

As for players, the games are the same, its always been the sportsbook that brought in the rec players, the only difference is that all players pay much more rake.

Its up to you to decide if the games you play are worth paying all the extra rake at the end of the day. Some believe they are, others choose to play elsewhere. GL.
Just frustrating. Bovada is literally the only site that you can count on to actually pay you out. The software is udderly pathetic and they are doing their most to pad their pockets. Funny how Ive read many rec players say it gives them a better shot at winning. Either way getting paid out/ still having a noticeable edge make it worth playing nl25-100 cash. above that you won't catch me in any game without rakeback
01-25-2013 , 12:39 PM
After 7 days can you no longer download the hand histories? They are in the game transaction sections but I am not able to download them, it appears
01-25-2013 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mdroz247
After 7 days can you no longer download the hand histories? They are in the game transaction sections but I am not able to download them, it appears
MMM I believe what you are doing is trying to look at your hand histories in tern means getting better and winning money. Bovada has no interest in your statement. Only if your going to keep reloading on their site and not cash out do they care what you have to say
01-26-2013 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mdroz247
After 7 days can you no longer download the hand histories? They are in the game transaction sections but I am not able to download them, it appears

Yea, I dislike this. You really have to stay on top of your HH downloads... I've forgotten before and lost some data

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Kahn
01-26-2013 , 03:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodog_Ice
And just like that.. I am happy to announce that the details for Black Diamond Poker Open 2 are now available:

Like last year, it will be 2 series:

The Contender Series

Starts Sunday, February 10th and wraps up Sunday, February 24th

43 events, with buyins ranging from $3.30 to $55. The Main Event ($55) will have a $30,000 guarantee on it. The series will have over $150,000 in guarantees.

Expect 2 nightly events during the week (for those of us in the Western hemisphere).. plus a morning event to attract our Asian players.

Satellites will begin February 4th and conclude February 23rd.

The Championship Series

This bigger series starts March 10th and ends on Sunday, March 24th.

As with the Contender, there will be 43 events.. with 2 each night and 1 in the morning during the week. Buyins will range from $22 to $425. The $425 Main Event will have a $250,000 guarantee on it.. and the Championship Series will have over $700,000 worth of guarantees.

Satellites for most Championship Events will start February 25th and will conclude March 23rd. Satellites for the Main Event will start February 4th.
Say one "wins the $250,00 Main event for like $50,000. How can we reasonable get all the money off the site within 2 years?

Also you didn't answer my question about putting a bi-weekly or monthly poll on the site where players can vote on site suggestions at their priority and have them implemented in a timely fashion??
01-26-2013 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OmahaImHigh
Also you didn't answer my question about putting a bi-weekly or monthly poll on the site where players can vote on site suggestions at their priority and have them implemented in a timely fashion??
What good would a poll do? Bodog has already proven that they are going to do whatever they want and input from places like 2+2 doesn't even register on their priority list. Sure, let's get them a poll that says 500 people want the bugs fixed. It's been a year, they haven't done a single thing. A poll thread is worthless.
01-26-2013 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OmahaImHigh
Say one "wins the $250,00 Main event for like $50,000. How can we reasonable get all the money off the site within 2 years?

Checks are arriving in 2-4 weeks right now. Bovada allows players to queue up checks so that subsequent checks come in ~ 1 week apart. Max check is 3k. Also, certain high volume, trusted, clients have access to larger withdrawal methods. Thus, the claim that it would take 2 years to receive 50k is at least a 4x exaggeration... shouldn't take more than 6 months, if that.

If you want to know more about recent speeds in their cashier, check this thread here.

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