EndTheFed's post (#25806) in the Bovada/Ignition payout thread spoke to this issue. Basically states not a good idea to send bitcoin from one 3rd party to another 3rd party. If something goes wrong and the transaction gets refunded you want it to go to an address you control.

Ah, I found it. He basically writes,

"In general it's not a good idea to send bitcoin from one 3rd party to another 3rd party. If something goes wrong and the transaction gets refunded you want it to go to an address you(bolded) control.

That's why even if you want to go from one poker site to another you need to send it to your own wallet first in between.

Imagine how long you might have had to go back and forth with an Ignition support member that doesn't even understand bitcoin if Circle had refunded back to the address Ignition sent from."
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A lot of what he is talking about is a response to a circle rejection question. Bitcoin transactions don't really get rejected. Now if you are transferring to circle or coinbase or some exchange that prohibits btc for gambling there could be a rejection.

But they wouldn't take your coin. Also, if you went ignition to seals for example and it got rejected, it would just end up back in your ignition account. There is no other place for it to end up. It will not go into thin air. There might be an email from cs, but the money would be back in your acct. No time on the phone or maybe 5 minutes? Also if you were to tranfer from ignition to circle(back when you could) and it got rejected well the bovada payout thread would be flooded with "bovada/ignition took control of my btc address and stole $x from me. That hasn't happened even once right?

Let's say you send ignition to blockchain and it gets rejected. Ooops. "no control" over ignition address. Well that's not how it works. You have control over your ignition addy b/c of your password. Sure it's not a 15 passphrase control like blockchain but you have control, not ignition.

It's an interesting point you bring up though. For example, on my seals acct I have a 18 digit password and use 2AF on my phone which changes a 6 digit code every 30 seconds. Do I have control over my seals btc address? I feel I do, but I feel I still have a ton to learn about bitcoin. I mean I know more than 99% of the population about btc but that 1% or so who knows more than me knows ALOT more.

Good discussion tho.

+1.

https://support.coinbase.com/custome...-uahf-uasf-faq

Just curious if we will still be able to deposit and withdrawal from poker sites after the soft fork. Seems like Coinbase will only hold original bitcoin and not any kind of forked version...

I also have no idea on the status of blockchain.info...

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...apart-for-now/ This article posted 30 minutes ago, doesn't answer your question, but does explain the fork and why it may or may not occur. It seems the miners have already picked the method they want to use to increase the number of transactions they can do a second. If their choice is used, a fork may still come in play, just not now.

hey im having problems with my blockchain..info wallet,i keep logging in with my identifier and password and then get sent an email for approval,i click it and it opens a screen loggin me in sayin return to previous tab/page to veiw wallet.when i go back or refesh it goes back to enter pass so i do and it says its wrong ,idk i have to be doin something wrong

Why waste all this time and expense on converting and reconverting bitcoin to $$$ to play poker.

Why doesn't one of our progressive poker site thinkers setup straight bitcoin wagering games? Bitcoin in/bitcoin out.

whenever i send from my wallet to my bitpay card, it's impossible to send the exact amount in my wallet (or in the specific address in my wallet to be precise). i finally figured out why: when u tell bitpay how much usd u want to send them, the amount of bitcoin they tell u to send is the equivalent in btc of the usd amount PLUS AN ADMINISTRATIVE/NETWORK COSTS FEE.

so even if u go to bitpay's exchange rates page to get their exact current exchange rate, then do the math, it won't be correct.



so, two questions:

1. is there a way that anyone has figured out to send bitpay the exact amount in your wallet address, so as to not leave change behind?

2. i now have a bunch of addresses in my blockchain.info wallet with random small amounts (a few dollars or less). is there a way to consolidate all this without doing multiple single transactions sending the money in each address to a new consolidated address?

Here's how you proceed:

1) Own your private keys (otherwise, if a fork occurs, you may not have your bitcoins on both chains).

2) Don't do any transactions a few hours before the fork and none the day after (or however long it takes for this to settle down).

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How did I know you would come to my rescue here kahn? lol

By own your private keys, do you mean purchase an offline wallet (i.e. have my own seperate wallet id/address)? I do have a trezor wallet that I haven't even opened...but otherwise currently most of my long-term BTC holdings are on Coinbase (2/3) and blockchain (1/3). I figured I'd keep some btc on blockchain for ez depositing.

should i consolidate to CB or maybe trezor?

Consolidating to Coinbase is the opposite of what you want to do! They are only supporting one coin if a fork occurs. Move your coins to your Trezor. I'd suggest sooner rather than later b/c today is the 25th and there may be a rush of people making transactions before the deadline.

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Funds on exchanges should be withdrawn or converted to fiat before august the 1st. Yes get everything off coinbase onto your trezor then you will get the equal amount of BTC on the new fork. Nothing is guaranteed with funds on a exchange.

Just moved 10k coinbase to trezor but it says BTC transactions are taking longer than expected. somehow the 4.1k blockchain to trezor was instantaneous -_-

Yeah they got that on seals it just hasn't caught on yet. It's only a matter of time tho before people get fed up and start playing bitcoin only.

But my predictions are terrible. I predicted that if people could find a place to play that basically had no rake and good software and a million game variants, they would flock to it in droves.

As I look at the lobby at swcpoker right now, I couldn't be more wrong.

I feel that the biggest current problem with btc poker is that it bitcoin is not simple enough. Almost like how when b4 windows came out using a computer wasn't so easy as a bunch of double clicking.

1/ I don't use bitpay but I have been on some of the non-clearnet markets that only accept bitcoin and seem to do a similar thing whenever I withdraw back to my seals wallet.

My solution is to either not give an f about the 4 bucks or so left in your acct or if you really need it you have to do the math perfect. Find out how they obtain the exact value of btc and whether they change it with preev.com and every 5 minutes, 15 minutes, etc. Then you have to make sure you are doing a transaction so that bitcoin value will not change in that time frame. Then you have to subtract the 0.0005 typical fee (which used to be pennies, now is almost a couple bucks). And if you are cashing out or buying something etc subtract that too. You have to do the math perfect tho which sucks.

I think the name, Seals With Clubs is terrible for marketing. I feel as if it turns off a lot of people who think it's some sort of shady joke.

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When you request to receive money onto your BitPay card, once your Blockchain wallet opens you should see a link in blue text: "Use total available minus fee."

(I'm not sure but the link may only appear if your initial request is for more than you have in your wallet.)

Thanks for that info on SWC. I never really checked them out when they came online. There was a lot of changes going on back then, and I probably thought it was just another gimmicky waste of time to try out.

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I just got an email from CB, what is going on? Something about a fork on August 1st. Am I no longer going to be able to deposit and withdrawal via CB because of this? Sorry for the panic, but CB is my main BTC site.

If you got the same e-mail I got today, your options and what would happen were clearly spelled out.

I hope you don't mean you're using Coinbase to deposit and withdraw directly to online poker sites! That is bad and will result in your account getting closed.

What will happen if you don't take your coins off of Coinbase and put them into a wallet that you control right now, you will end up not getting both sets of coins in the fork. Your BTC will remain, but you will not have access to the new BCC coins because Coinbase does not support them.

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I haven't had a chance to read the e-mail yet, assuming I even got it.

I always go from CB to BC to the poker site. I do not currently have any bitcoins in CB right now. What I am wondering is, in a week or a month from now, can I still make a deposit to CB - BC - poker site like I always do? Will anything change for me? Thanks for all your help.

As long as you have no funds on CB as of Aug 1, you'll be fine. When they resume transactions it will be as it was.

I have one BTC amount on my wallet "blockchain.info" and one larger amount at "Betcoin Poker". What should I do to prepare myself for the hard fork?

I tried reading this thread but get confused and hope someone can answer me directly. Thank you!

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If it helps (?), "Betcoin Poker" did make this statement: "BTC would continue to be supported and will always be fully supported. We will not be suspending service in anyway, deposits or withdrawals and will continue to run in full to provide you a great service. We may increase confirmation times to 3 confirmations but will update this thread no later than 31, July 2017 if we decide to do so. Withdrawals may undergo a bit more scrutiny but we believe that the bitcoin network will remain wholly unaffected by the transgressions over the next 30 days."

Should I withdraw all my BTC from "Betcoin Poker" before the hard fork?

You're OK as long as you have no BTC on any exchanges- ie. Coinbase. Poker site, personal wallet- ie. Blockchain- OK.