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09-23-2010 , 05:24 PM
The collusion in spread on several nicks.
The ones i have found so far are:

adrimeesq
Aguilar1985
arroubstuds
CACEMPOKER
cuidadoooooo
Farquitied
GASPARDILDO39
jaimituga
Julitt76
Maltezric
maxnel12
morimu
nabited
ocidenseg
PALMADA87
PESTTINHA
picouto
SANGUE74
trresy
twing66






Collusion is done carefully, several nicks and not used daily etc.


And don't let every nicks results fool you if the are not 20% ROI.
For example CACEMPOKER. Below is his Don history. These games are consecutive games. Pay attention on how rarely he plays, yet against the same players every time from the list of colluders i named in the beginning of this post. Same goes for every of the 20 colluders.






Same kind of example for ocidenseg. I can show the same for every player.






These nicks go back very far so it has been going on for long. It is possible there are more players involved in this. I've been running horribly in the DoN's so i started to investigate a little.

I reported this to Ipoker just now and i ask or you to do the same. Just copy paste this whole text or link here. Thank you.
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09-23-2010 , 05:50 PM
Nice work..WTf are William hill an established British sportsbook doing?
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09-23-2010 , 06:14 PM
Ipoker is a network with a ton of skins, so the odds these players are on Will Hill is small.

Unfortunately Ipoker has proven to be extremely poor at handling situations like this, so the best you can do is report this data to your skin, to the network's security department, and perhaps email Will Hill as well (the largest skin).

The other choice you can and should make is to not play DoNs (a collusive game be design) on a network that has a proven track record of being poor at catching and/or punishing cheaters (search for several bot threads on the network if you like for past examples).

Good job doing some work to get some actual data (many never do that instead they simply moan a lot without actually doing anything), and good luck getting ipoker to act on it. I sent this link to the ipoker skins I still have accounts at (though I have not played there in a long time).
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09-23-2010 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tusch

I reported this to Ipoker just now and i ask or you to do the same. Just copy paste this whole text or link here. Thank you.
I haven't read it but I can picture their 'investigation' response now. You're wrong, they don't allow this sort of stuff, it's not what you think, thank you for contacting us and don't hesitate to contact us further if you need anything else.
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09-23-2010 , 06:45 PM
A lot of this stuff on ipokwr lately. First the bots and now this. They wont do anything, worst support available. They will just lose morw traffic until they are done with.
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09-23-2010 , 06:46 PM
I busted a 12 player DoN ring on Ipoker 2 years ago. Ipoker even admitted they colluded so i have faith in them. If these players accounts are not closed i am for sure changing networks. Please spread the word on this and email your skin if you play on Ipoker.
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09-23-2010 , 06:48 PM
Sorry if I'm being stupid, but I don't quite understand what you're claiming here.

Can you just elaborate on exactly what the cheating is that's going on ?

Thanks
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09-23-2010 , 06:51 PM
DoN's just seem like havens for cheats. and they'r hardly even real poker...
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09-23-2010 , 06:55 PM
Are DONs worth the hassle? The relatively small edge colluders would gain by softplay in and hole card sharing seem to be amplified several fold compared to a reg SNG.
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09-23-2010 , 06:57 PM
I'm not completely convinced... cacempoker colluded and ended up with a 2% ROI and $100 profit? But it does look fishy, especially given that they play infrequently but always play together.

Sites should just get rid of DONs, they're ridiculous and take players away from other SNGs/MTTs. There are going to be a lot more threads like this otherwise.
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09-24-2010 , 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend
Sorry if I'm being stupid, but I don't quite understand what you're claiming here.

Can you just elaborate on exactly what the cheating is that's going on ?

Thanks
They are colluding at 6-max DoNs.
-All of the players have played less than 200 DoNs over several months, 6+ months. This averages under 1 DoN a day.
-EVERY single DoN they play, there are exatcly 3 total names from the list - not less or more. Keep in mind thousands of DoNs run daily, hundreds on the level they cheat at.
- So what are the odds for 20 players who average under 1 DoN a day, for exatcly 3 of them for every player to play in the same Don for 6+ months in a row. And all of them just happen to have huge +ROI


Here is an example. I can pinpoint when adriimesq started cheating on a regular basis.



The players he played against



And i can pick any tournament he or any other player has played since then and have exatcly three names from the list.
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09-24-2010 , 04:22 AM
I am sorry if i am presenting this in a way that is hard to understand. English is not my native. Tell me if you need any scope stats from these players to understand this better and i will provide them.
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09-24-2010 , 04:24 AM
That is pretty sick. How on earth did you figure it?

On the evidence you have given seem very very very likly. Being able to see the hole cards (like a security team) I am sure will find plenty of hands which demonstrate team play.
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09-24-2010 , 04:49 AM
Where are they from ? Spain ?

If they are not playing much volume it seems it could just be a small group of friends, possibly students, trying to get an unfair edge and a few $.

Maybe they collude at different games / sites to avoid putting the kind of volume that could be more easily detected.

I hope an investigation from the site takes place asap and some measures are taken.
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09-24-2010 , 05:31 AM
If you want to send ipoker a message asking to investigate this here's the link:

http://www.ipoker.com/html/page/contact-us

I play at ipoker and have played some DoN's so I sent them a link to this thread asking for a response/investigation.
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09-24-2010 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by All Apologies
If you want to send ipoker a message asking to investigate this here's the link:

http://www.ipoker.com/html/page/contact-us

I play at ipoker and have played some DoN's so I sent them a link to this thread asking for a response/investigation.

They never ever ever reply, Ipoker are a disgrace.
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09-24-2010 , 06:23 AM
lol what did you expect? i am sure that every non-pokerstars network has their DONs full of collusion at 30-50$ level, ipoker, ongame, boss media, you name it. Their support/security is so bad, variety of skins you can play doesnt help, it was your decision to play on a network that allows sng botting for over a year. HF
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09-24-2010 , 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by All Apologies
If you want to send ipoker a message asking to investigate this here's the link:

http://www.ipoker.com/html/page/contact-us

I play at ipoker and have played some DoN's so I sent them a link to this thread asking for a response/investigation.
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Originally Posted by humanoid
They never ever ever reply, Ipoker are a disgrace.
I got a reply once. True story!
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09-24-2010 , 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by █████
I got a reply once. True story!

Why is this poster's name, location, etc blacked out ??


This seems to be yet another serious cheating issue which iPoker have failed to spot and/or failed to deal with appropriately.

We need to push them for answers and action, on this issue along with the botting issue, the more of us that bring this to their attention, the better.
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09-24-2010 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend
Why is this poster's name, location, etc blacked out ??
his name isn't blacked out, it consists of funky ASCII characters.

Can we please, please, get a red to rename him 'Douche' or at least give him an undertitle that explains the name? It's like he is trolling with every post. And if we are going to allow funky characters in names, what happens when we have users named ████ (4 blocks) and ██████ (6 blocks). ****ing ******ed.
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09-24-2010 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by astrobel
Where are they from ? Spain ?

If they are not playing much volume it seems it could just be a small group of friends, possibly students, trying to get an unfair edge and a few $.

Maybe they collude at different games / sites to avoid putting the kind of volume that could be more easily detected.

I hope an investigation from the site takes place asap and some measures are taken.
Most of the nicknames are clearly portuguese, so I imagine this is a portuguese ring.
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09-24-2010 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRaiderr
That is pretty sick. How on earth did you figure it?

On the evidence you have given seem very very very likly. Being able to see the hole cards (like a security team) I am sure will find plenty of hands which demonstrate team play.
I saw three players with around same amount of games played and a high roi on a 6-max DoN (most DoNs 6-max on Ipoker). This got me interested, i scoped all three. Saw they play infrequently, yet appeared in same games. Started scoping more tournaments they had played and the opposition in them. This started revealing more and more same kind of players and they all linked together.
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09-24-2010 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by All Apologies
If you want to send ipoker a message asking to investigate this here's the link:

http://www.ipoker.com/html/page/contact-us

I play at ipoker and have played some DoN's so I sent them a link to this thread asking for a response/investigation.
I sent a message there and on my skin (WH). Thank you for taking the time to report this aswell.
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09-24-2010 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dybboss
lol what did you expect? i am sure that every non-pokerstars network has their DONs full of collusion at 30-50$ level, ipoker, ongame, boss media, you name it. Their support/security is so bad, variety of skins you can play doesnt help, it was your decision to play on a network that allows sng botting for over a year. HF
Colluding is unaccetable in every network. Stars is not tax free for me that is why i don't play there.
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09-24-2010 , 10:17 AM
Update on their played games after i made this thread.
Three players have played one DoN each after i made this thread. Players who played GASPARDILDO39, twing66 and picouto. Suprise suprise they played in the same DoN.

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