Get we get an update on this from weeks ago please?

Because since it seems MG is doing **** all for us, is there still *VERY* positive things to look forward to from Battlefield?

This claiming **** really sucks. Don't they know how much each player had on their accounts? I'll claim twice the amount then in case players get 50 percent of their money back I will get all back.

If\when the liquidator returns our numerous emails, phone calls then YES, it will be positive.

Battlefield Poker

Says so in the box on the web page about private document access.

Here is me lodging my claim sent to the email provided on Sims Partners website (tusk@simspartners.com.au)

Sims Partners,

I am writing to claim the funds that were left frozen in my Microgaming (specifically Royal Card Club) account due to the Tusk liquidation. This e-mail, ********, is the e-mail attached to the account and my alias is TMcStacks. My full name linked the account is ********. My account number is ******* and there is $21,235.29 stuck in my poker account. Attached is a screenshot, taken about a week after my funds were frozen, of my lobby, where it states my balance and my alias at the top.
Please respond with any useful information to assist me in lodging these claims. If I have left out any vital information, let me know and I will provide you with the necessary information. I also was not sure if I was to send my claim to this address or utilize the 'enquire about this administration' function directly on the information page of your website.

Please respond back ASAP with any info. Thank you.


Any thoughts of what I may have missed or if any of you have gone about it in a different way?

I think you may have misread public for private?

Guys when you want to get sent money to neteller what do i give my number or email address?

This is total bs btw if we dont get it back what are we going to do about microgaming?

*** Claim Process ***

These are the steps that should be taken for anyone that is experiencing problems or for people that are confused as to how the process works. I, like a few others in this thread, am an attorney that deals with this issues so this shouldn't guide you astray:

1. Gather all information possible. You will need to submit as much information as possible to validate your claim and ensure that your proof of debt statement is recognized. At a minimum, the information collected and written down should include your full legal name, address, phone number, country of residence, name of poker site used, screen name, email address used to create the account, and the monetary amount being claimed.

As a practical matter, I would strongly suggest you include your IP address from the location in which you normally play. This will be helpful when matched to the transactional log to verify your identity. I would also include any other information (no matter how minor you think it may be) as possible. This would include screen shots of account balances, poker tracker screen shots verifying the site and amount won, and also a redacted bank statement (if obtainable) showing the initial deposit made into the account.

2. Once all information has been obtained, read the Liquidation Guide For Creditors located on SimsPartners' website. This is a valuable source of information and goes into depth as to how the liquidation process works and what is expected. The link to this guide is displayed below:
http://www.simspartners.com.au/publi..._creditors.pdf

3. Fill out a Formal Proof of Debt Form (Form 535) located here:
http://www.simspartners.com.au/publi..._Debt_form.pdf

This is the only form required at this point and should be supported by all documentation outlined in No.'s 1 &2 above. Make sure the information is as accurate as possible to ensure there is no delay in the processing of your claim.
IMPORTANT: In addition to emailing your claim, I would highly recommend that you mail an exact copy of all of the above to the liquidator's physical address by certified mail. This will ensure that the liquidator is put on notice of your claim and that you receive a constructive receipt that will prove said notice was sent and delivered.

4. Once the proof of debt form has been submitted, make a request for access to private documents at the following link:
https://secure16.ozhosting.com/simsp...e=access&id=56

Your request will more than likely not be accepted until you are added to the list of unsecured creditors. Once added, you will have access to the court filing dates, documents submitted in the liquidation process, and any other information provided by the liquidator and not available to the general public. This section should also include all relevant dates and deadlines that will govern the process.

5. Sit back and play the waiting game. This is the frustrating part. It will probably take some time for the unsecured creditor class to be created and claims to be verified. Even though the liquidator should have already received an accounting of the balances owed by Tusk, it will wait for you to file a claim before that number is recognized. Failing to file by the deadlines will release Tusk from any further obligation to you.

Also, once included in the class you will receive all information necessary from the liquidator throughout the course of the proceeding. This is a long process, and I would recommend seeking independent legal advice if you have a significant amount of money invested.

I hope this helps. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or need help.

Thank you mightyzep for the detailed guide on how to proceed.

yes you are correct, i misread

Zep, thanks for writing all that out.

However, is all that really necessary? What I mean is that all the players can be treated as the same class of creditor by the liquidator, and they clearly have all the relevant information already (amount owed, names, addresses etc). Can they legally just ignore all that if you don't file a full legal claim as above?

What date are yall using where is ask for (date of court order...........) at the top of the page? Are you using the same date in the chart right below?

That is normally the way liquidations go as there is nearly always not enougth money to go down. Or they would just close, not liquidate.

The deadline is usually pretty long, which in turn means you have zero chance of getting the money back before that deadline expires, considering they haven't set a deadline yet, that could be a long time.

The information provided in the guide is to ensure a proof of claim is recognized. You are right, "technically" that cannot ignore your unsecured creditor status if they have that information available. However, it is important to make sure they have all of your current information especially if you have moved, changed phones, etc. since registering the account. I would not be willing to make that assumption and would go through the steps to make sure I don't get left behind.

Also, if for whatever reason they don't have your information or if the amount of the obligation is in dispute (i.e. they tell you your account balance was $40 instead of $4,000) I would want to resolve that issue as soon as possible. Essentially you are covering all of your bases so you don't get screwed. You also have to go through this procedure so they know where they stand. Otherwise, they would never know the true amount of their obligations and would not be able to liquidate the assets appropriately.

In my opinion and experience, it is always better to be safe than sorry.

Every update to this thread tilts the *** out of me, its seeming more and more unlikely that we're going to get anything near what we had in there back.

Shocked that we, the people who funded the bastards operations, are below the employees in terms of the liquidation process and that our deposits will cover their sick pay and ****.

Also, even though the unsecured creditors are a class, each person will be treated separately within that class. This ensures that unsecured creditors with high account balances don't get a lower figure than others when expressed as a percentage of amount owed.

Gotta love how the skins and MGS never told players not to withdraw money from their account when the casinos originally went down when players were repeatedly trying to get info. I was lucky enough to reverse my withdrawal (and take screen shots just incase). Although who knows maybe the withdrawal in progress means you have to prove less?? Either way many people are going to be struggling to provide valid evidence here. I myself will solely be relying on screen shots of my balance as my initial deposits were made through neteller (left canada long ago), made 2.5 years ago, and represent a fraction of what should be my current balance...


BTW why doesn't MGS offer signed statements on player balances?

Pretty much the skins and MGS knew we would not be getting our full amount back (a business who could fully pay everyone would not go into liquidation for the most part). I'd be very happy if I saw 60%. This is why I've been targetting MGS from the very start. They are the only one's who can rescue players and compensate losses. Unfortunately it seems more and more evident by each passing day that MGS do not intend to help players or provide any solution until the liquidation is over (which could be well into next year as individuals such as mellow have suggested).

Are you going to file a claim with the liquidator?

If you recover some of your lost rake revenue will you be paying rakeback on it?

It would be nice if all the skin reps posting here would respond to this.

This just sux

I'm wondering if the skins are considered secured creditors (since they seem to have been contacted by the liquidators long before us players were given any notice).

Thanks, BFP. I needed a chuckle today.

God. I dont even know how to fill out the Proof of Debt form. I can't make heads or tails of that crap. Maybe mightyzep would be kind enough to provide us an example of what a completed form should look like. Or anyone else that knows how to fill it out.

I've had a large sum frozen (somewhere between 50-100k, which I'd rather not disclose publicly). I was talking to a friend about selling some of the money owed to me at a discounted rate, but have no idea what figure to use.

How much would you guys be willing to settle for? What do you think is fair?

Please save the rants about the ethics of this, as I'm the one that approached him. Thanks.

It's undoubtedly a very good idea for each player to submit their own claim to ensure their rights are protected. It's wrong to blame MGS for publicly recommending this because it's the right thing to do.

That doesn't mean that MGS won't provide all of their account records to the liquidators. Probably they will and players will be covered even if they can't document their account balances.

MGS may be concerned that Tusk has been feeding them bogus information. Wouldn't you be concerned if everything you knew about player deposits and withdrawals came from Tusk? That's a very good reason for MGS not to promise the players that they will take care of it.

Random thought: wouldn't it be clever of Tusk to create a bunch of fake player accounts with large balances that were never really deposited? Then when the bubble bursts they run off to Rio and wait patiently for the liquidators to payoff the bogus accounts at fifty cents on the dollar or whatever the going rate is.

Wouldn't an accounting firm worth the name be on the lookout for this scam? They may need to audit all the deposits looking for fraud. Which seems like a very good reason for you guys to assemble as much proof as possible for your claim. Not just screenshots, but your deposit info and playing records too.