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Old 04-08-2008, 10:16 AM   #1501
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Re: Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?

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I feel extremely disappointed with MGS that they let such a shoddy outfit run what is in essence a company that was the 'middleman' for smaller poker solutions. We approached MGS about a poker solution last year and they in turn passed us onto MPP (TUSK's poker arm)
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I will not in light of this situation now be recommending MGS poker rooms to out live tour players and will not use MGS powered sites banners on any of our poker sites.
I believe disappointment with MGS (so far) is a understatement. MGS went to bed with a filthy whore (Tusk) and let innocent and unwitting players suffer from their bad bad choice of partner. I feel raped by Tusk and MGS had the rapist hidden from players behind thick velvet curtains and has only been watching while players were soiled by their concealed partner.
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:09 AM   #1502
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Re: Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?

Why hasn't the official 2+2 boycott Microgaming thread been created yet?
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:40 AM   #1503
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Re: Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?

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Why hasn't the official 2+2 boycott Microgaming thread been created yet?
I created it weeks ago and was flamed.

Apparently no one who didn't have money in a Tusk skin thinks MGS did anything wrong, and many of them think that we are all idiots for not anticipating that all of our money would disappear one day. I can't even tell you how many times I've heard from players on other MGS skins "well I'm on (fill in the blank - Eurolinx, Doyle's, etc., etc.) and they are big skins so my money is safe".

The lack of solidarity of players on this issue is sickening to me.
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:42 AM   #1504
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Re: Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?

LOl at solidarity, ppl are also playing at AP again
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:51 AM   #1505
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LOl at solidarity, ppl are also playing at AP again
Exactly. No one cares until it happens to them.
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:09 PM   #1506
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Re: Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?

thanks very much mightyzep, that example form was a big help

i have a question though, if part of your money was held in rakeback, and u didnt claim it and have no pictorial evidence of it, should this be yours aswell as your balance if player funds are held in trust. Therfore should i write the full amount of balance+rakeback in the 'value of security' section? or the 'total amount of claim' section, and if so, where should i give the reason for this amount now being different from the picture of my player balance?

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Old 04-08-2008, 12:43 PM   #1507
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Re: Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?

Another question about the form, what's my "Position with or relationship to creditor"?
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:52 PM   #1508
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Re: Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?

i wrote down "I am the creditor" since I am the creditor
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Old 04-08-2008, 01:03 PM   #1509
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Re: Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?

This is so ****ing depressing.
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Old 04-08-2008, 01:05 PM   #1510
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I just printed the form and faxed it to them. Hope that is good enough.
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:01 PM   #1511
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Re: Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?

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I created it weeks ago and was flamed.

Apparently no one who didn't have money in a Tusk skin thinks MGS did anything wrong, and many of them think that we are all idiots for not anticipating that all of our money would disappear one day. I can't even tell you how many times I've heard from players on other MGS skins "well I'm on (fill in the blank - Eurolinx, Doyle's, etc., etc.) and they are big skins so my money is safe".

The lack of solidarity of players on this issue is sickening to me.
I think it's sickening as well. Very few people at 2plus2 seem to care if they are not directly involved. What happened to all the people saying this would be fine and that MGS has never screwed players over? Why arn't any big guys or pros in the industry willing to help us out? Most likely because of the fact that people still stand to make money off of MGS. The poker radio shows to my knowledge have stoped covering this as they would rather sweep it under the rug and make it seem like online poker is 100% safe as always.
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:05 PM   #1512
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Re: Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?

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I created it weeks ago and was flamed.

Apparently no one who didn't have money in a Tusk skin thinks MGS did anything wrong, and many of them think that we are all idiots for not anticipating that all of our money would disappear one day. I can't even tell you how many times I've heard from players on other MGS skins "well I'm on (fill in the blank - Eurolinx, Doyle's, etc., etc.) and they are big skins so my money is safe".

The lack of solidarity of players on this issue is sickening to me.
what did MGS do wrong?
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:05 PM   #1513
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As those of you who have followed this thread know, I wrote a lengthy letter to ICG and Kahnawake a couple weeks ago about this mess. Kahnawake's response was underwhelming; I ended up calling ICG when I never got a response. I spoke to a woman there named Janet who gave me her personal email address. I sent the letter to her and she said she forwarded it to the appropriate person. That was a week ago; still no response.

I just sent another letter to Microgaming; we'll see if that does anything, but I doubt it.

But I think a letter writing campaign can be effective. MG and the regulators are useless, but I think there's a better target: the other skins. A massive email blitz to Eurolinx, Doyle's Room, Unibet, Poker Rewards, 32red, etc. could be very useful.

Something like the following:

Dear Sir/Madam:

I am writing to you in regards to the situation involving the liquidation of Tusk, a provider of 28 skins on the Microgaming network. Many of us are extremely disappointed with the way that Microgaming has handled the situation. While I recognize that you are in no way involved in this disaster, nor in any way responsible for Microgaming's behavior, I implore you to use whatever influence you have with Microgaming to convince them to improve their responsiveness to player concerns. At the very least, Microgaming should appoint an individual to post in the massive 2+2 thread on this topic (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=141341) to address players' concerns and provide more information.

Traffic on the Microgaming network has taken a serious hit since February 27th. Furthermore, many players have become increasingly leery of playing on any skin on the Microgaming network due to the failure of the Tusk skins and Microgaming's lackluster response. As the saying goes, one rotten apple ruins the whole bunch. The Tusk situation has unfortunately tarred all rooms on the Microgaming network as potentially unsafe for play. This affects your bottom line. It is both in your own self-interest, and the right thing to do, to contact Microgaming and explain to them how their poor response to the Tusk insolvency is harming players and your own business. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

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Send this to any skin you play on, or for that matter, all of them.
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:13 PM   #1514
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Re: Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?

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what did MGS do wrong?
The fact that they run the operation? They take a percentage of the rake and tell their casinos what they can and can't do. MGS runs them. The people who say MGS simply runs the software (essentially they are technical support) are either not familiar with MGS or liars.

Not too mention numerous sources have stated that MGS has claimed repeatedly they would cover balances if something went wrong.
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:13 PM   #1515
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Re: Battlefield Poker and 27 other Microgaming skins to close?

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As those of you who have followed this thread know, I wrote a lengthy letter to ICG and Kahnawake a couple weeks ago about this mess. Kahnawake's response was underwhelming; I ended up calling ICG when I never got a response. I spoke to a woman there named Janet who gave me her personal email address. I sent the letter to her and she said she forwarded it to the appropriate person. That was a week ago; still no response.

I just sent another letter to Microgaming; we'll see if that does anything, but I doubt it.

But I think a letter writing campaign can be effective. MG and the regulators are useless, but I think there's a better target: the other skins. A massive email blitz to Eurolinx, Doyle's Room, Unibet, Poker Rewards, 32red, etc. could be very useful.

Something like the following:

Dear Sir/Madam:

I am writing to you in regards to the situation involving the liquidation of Tusk, a provider of 28 skins on the Microgaming network. Many of us are extremely disappointed with the way that Microgaming has handled the situation. While I recognize that you are in no way involved in this disaster, nor in any way responsible for Microgaming's behavior, I implore you to use whatever influence you have with Microgaming to convince them to improve their responsiveness to player concerns. At the very least, Microgaming should appoint an individual to post in the massive 2+2 thread on this topic (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=141341) to address players' concerns and provide more information.

Traffic on the Microgaming network has taken a serious hit since February 27th. Furthermore, many players have become increasingly leery of playing on any skin on the Microgaming network due to the failure of the Tusk skins and Microgaming's lackluster response. As the saying goes, one rotten apple ruins the whole bunch. The Tusk situation has unfortunately tarred all rooms on the Microgaming network as potentially unsafe for play. This affects your bottom line. It is both in your own self-interest, and the right thing to do, to contact Microgaming and explain to them how their poor response to the Tusk insolvency is harming players and your own business. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

xxxx


Send this to any skin you play on, or for that matter, all of them.
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