There is no way to 100% guarantee security. For every loophole in a security token it will be the same loophole for every other method of security. Sure, you can get around the security tokens to get someone, but its certainly not easy and requires a huge amount of effort and thieves at all levels will happily pass up a big score if they can get a slightly smaller one with a lot less effort.

Arguing that these will make you 100% secure is silly, and in no way does a site need to guarantee the loss if they are gotten around - but it would improve security greatly and should be the number two priority for Stars and FTP behind having your log in details being something other than the name you have when sat at a table.

Edit, furthermore id much rather you hack my bank than my poker site, because the bank guarantees any amount lost through hacking.

Who was arguing that tokens would make you 100% secure? I don't think anyone made such a claim..

Here is my point...security ID's WOULD in fact make it significantly more difficult to hack an account. My main point, however, is that unless you are a top level hacker yourself, you probably don't know enough to make the claims you do. That is my problem. I do everything I think I should, but because I myself am not a master in that field, I can't know what people who are that proficient are capable of. From my limited reading in the subject, a talented and motivated hacker can easily get by a person like me, who does what he should that is standard but doesn't understand the deeper vulnerabilities.

I also think an important addition to security that would be good would be some kind of approved IP address situation. You can only sign on using approved IP addresses unless you give FT some kind of warning that you will be signing on elsewhere. This of course would be a problem if the hacker has your email address, but if they don't know that rule, FT can be alerted when a random IP is signing on. Just a thought.

Really the NUMBER ONE thing they could do which they refuse do to spinelessness, is having LIVE PHONE SUPPORT for emergencies. They can have people who only answer the phone for emergency situations and when the thousands of calls come in that aren't emergencies, they can just direct them to email support and be just as obnoxious as TILT PAY.

These things are overdue. I hope Stars introduces them in the future. Maybe even giving them away to silver or gold stars. Or for X amount of FPP. Would be great service.

If they charge for it I'll buy one anyway.

I read that article this morning, good read... I also wish the poker sites would do something about security, I guess only time will tell.

ive been told stars is close to releasing this. hopefully it is soon.

FTPDoug mentioned it in an update quite some time ago now, and has been silent since....any progress FT???

I would def get one. I would personally feel more secure.

I would get one and be happy playing a premium for it.

Here's a link to PokerStars' response in the other thread.

100% agre...if tilt or stars started that (since I play both) I'd stop playing on the other and JUST play on the one with it...no need to put my money at risk u know since both sites are PLENTY big enough to play at 24/7 365

I would like to also say that I'd pay for the privelege of having one...something like $50 a year or something wouldn't bother me at all.

I would love to see an email response from FTP when suggesting this and their reasoning for not implementing it..