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Old 03-02-2013, 12:54 PM   #1
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Hi guys,

Im writing this thread to attract your attention regarding the WBCOOP 2013 Series. Pokerstars does not make any blogger selections and allows anyone to join.

According to their T&Cs only REAL bloggers are allowed to join if they make certain criteria. Now im going to copy and paste some of their paragraphs from their T&Cs :

-write and share with your friends and followers via social media, a 500 (five hundred) word blog post that you have written (“Blog Post”) or short video clip any format, no longer than 60 seconds in length (“Video Blog”), describing in your own words, “What has been your best moment playing on PokerStars?

-we require that you must have had an active online poker blog in operation for a minimum of 1 (one) month prior to your submission and that the blog post must have been updated regularly during this period.

- blog submissions will only be accepted in English, Russian, French, Spanish, Italian, German, Danish and Portuguese.

Few examples examples i would like to point out is how can join , maybe win the WBCOOP trophy and they have not even ever blogging in their life.I think that Pokerstars have really messed up in this respect.

http://tontyaalin.blogspot.ro/ ( one single blog post , romanian language , shorter then 500 posts , created on 27 february 2013 )

http://crgadrian.wordpress.com ( one single blog post , romanian language , shorter then 500 posts , created on 22 february 2013 )

The sad thig is that the list can continue.I found in the last 2 days at least 10 fake blogs wich wass created special for the WBCOOP promotion.

Bloggers who feel they have been cheated by Pokerstars should boycott the WBCOOP 2013 Series and ask for another blog submission to be verified and that those players who have not met the requirements and certain criteria should be eliminated from the competition.

I will be waiting for a Pokerstars Official Representative to respond and offer an explanation to this thread.

Please send this message to your fellow Pokerstars Pro Team bloggers. Feel free to copy and paste and share with other well known bloggers who are taking part in the WBCOOP.

" Hi,

I would like to ask you a question regarding your views on Pokerstars` WBCOOP Series.

Firstly it has come to my attention that Pokerstars are not evaluating the rules which clearly state that players must have made a blog to participate in the WBCOOP. Players are being allowed to join the WBCOOP and clearly they have not made a blog so is it right that if a player wins this tournament without making a blog that it is legal as stated in theirT&Cs?

I think that Pokerstars should implement their rules as stated in the T&Cs and not allow players to join the WBCOOP.

What are your views on this matter ?

Thanks
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:58 PM   #2
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Re: Attention " real "bloggers: WBCOOP is a farce!

One has to laugh at the way Jokerstars allows for people to participate in the WBCOOP whereas they havent made a blog or either copy and pasted someone elses.
Jokerstars bending the rules to support the muppets who dont take the time to sit and do a real blog but scam their way into these tournaments.
Pokerstars needs to have a good look at themselves for the benefit of the REAL players who take their time to post such blogs and not to benefit the scammers out there!!!
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:24 PM   #3
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Re: Attention " real "bloggers: WBCOOP is a farce!

When you contacted PS regarding these fake blogs, what was their response?
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:49 PM   #4
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When you contacted PS regarding these fake blogs, what was their response?
I'm still waiting for an answer sir.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:57 AM   #5
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Re: Attention " real "bloggers: WBCOOP is a farce!

I completely agree with your message.

Besides, half of the players are in Sitting Out and as there are often less than 250 players for 110 paid places, even there sitting out you can touch a ticket for the Scoop.

The level of the players is very borderline and I doubt that many are of reality passionate about poker well ... but its the Real Life ...!!!
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:40 PM   #6
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Re: Attention " real "bloggers: WBCOOP is a farce!

I didnt participate this time cause I havent posted in about 6 months, can we get an answer?
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:46 PM   #7
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Re: Attention " real "bloggers: WBCOOP is a farce!

Main event is 10am on a Monday. So it probably is aimed at 'real bloggers' then...
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:01 PM   #8
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Re: Attention " real "bloggers: WBCOOP is a farce!

Thanks to Dale Philip aka DaleRoxxu I got this message throw him from Pokerstars :

" I got in touch with people at PokerStars about this Criclevit. They gave me the following response to pass on to you:

Hi Criclevit, I’m sorry to see that some players have managed to slip through the WBCOOP entry process like this. I can understand how frustrating this is, and I’ll be making it a priority of mine to investigate further. I’d like to thank you for bringing it to my attention. I’d also like to assure you that the two specific players you've mentioned in the 2p2 thread are now ineligible for Player of the Series prizes, Best Blogger or Best Live Tweeter. However it’s not possible to un-credit the WBCOOP tournament tickets and they’ll sadly be able to play the remaining events. Please email a copy of your original post on 2p2, along with any other information and concerns you have to adventure@pokerstars.eu Apologies once again and good luck at the table "
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:06 PM   #9
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Re: Attention " real "bloggers: WBCOOP is a farce!

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I didnt participate this time cause I havent posted in about 6 months, can we get an answer?
Some never blogged and got tickets.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:01 PM   #10
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Re: Attention " real "bloggers: WBCOOP is a farce!

I don't think guys who don't blog should be allowed to play and I hope they go through it and remove players that don't blog. I think they could be lenient on the 500 word count and how much the blog is updated but it is terrible that they give tickets to players with 1 post on their blog made last week. What makes this worse is that there are people who actually do blog and have not received tickets.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:22 AM   #11
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Re: Attention " real "bloggers: WBCOOP is a farce!

I am not sure what to say about what you commented there. Its the money of pokerstars and they can do what they consider ok with it. I agree that having players that don't meet the requirements, play the wbcoop, is -EV for the players that meet all the rules. But I think that the players should just be happy with oportunity that they received and be happy for the free tickets that they will get. Pokerstars could have just not made the wbcoop 2013 at all and than noone would receive tickets.

I made my post 6days ago and followed all the required steps like: tweeting the link and having a 500 word post, and having a 1 year old blog that was regularly updated, but I still have not received the 10 tickets. I sent 2 emails to pokerstars trying to see why I did not not my tickets but they didn't respond to my emails. I respect pokerstars's decision and don't feel angry to what I consider might be some injustice against me.

Good luck in the wbcoop guys.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:22 AM   #12
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I am not sure what to say about what you commented there. Its the money of pokerstars and they can do what they consider ok with it.
It's also cheap SEO , so this is not really fo free.
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Old 03-05-2013, 04:46 AM   #13
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It's also cheap SEO , so this is not really fo free.
well to me it seems that they payed out more than 50k$ in prizes(including leaderboard, best blogger, etc) which is quite a lot. It really is unfortunete that players who don't meet the requirements play and players that meet requirements can't play, but what can we do about it. Just play the events and win tickets for scoop and be happy buddy!
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:39 AM   #14
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well to me it seems that they payed out more than 50k$ in prizes(including leaderboard, best blogger, etc) which is quite a lot. It really is unfortunete that players who don't meet the requirements play and players that meet requirements can't play, but what can we do about it. Just play the events and win tickets for scoop and be happy buddy!
Such a shame , i just double checked you're blog and I really can't find any reasons why they didnt credited you're entry tickets to WBCOOB events.

Danuuutz Blog - english ,500 words , updated regulary ,older then 1 month -REJECTED http://danuuutz.blogspot.ro/


Fake Blog - romanian , less then 500 words ,1 week older ,one singe post - ACCEPTED http://crgadrian.wordpress.com/

Serious guys , just please notice the differences and this is not a isolated case.On a simple google search I find last night over 50 fake blogs submisions accepted.

Seriously I think that Pokerstarsblog employes are some incompetents.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:57 AM   #15
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I received my tickets 10 minutes ago. thank you pokerstars
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Old 03-05-2013, 04:56 PM   #16
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Hi folks,

after the WBCOOP 2012 I hoped things are getting better - it's the opposite what's happening. So, my last post is the official "I skip it" post.

PokerStars, it's a pitty. Yeah, I know we've got history, your statement included. But that's the way I see my blog: As a way to point my finger on things going in the wrong direction. There had been so many possibilities for your WBCOOP - now they are gone.

P.S. Besides: Two submissions, no tickets. I've been in contact with support twice - it didn't help to send them my blog entry again. Today I decided to skip the WBCOOP 2013. And I don't think I'll give it a try again.

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Old 03-05-2013, 06:06 PM   #17
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URinissaltY

Same here , this is first and last WBCOOP i'm gonna play...I think it's more simple to get those tickets if you dont owe a blog.

„buxiboy“
http://www.intellipoker.de/forum/sho...nditos/page776
(he just sended the link oft he teamblog he posting from time to time to PS, AND he posted that “ I got my 10 tickets without even writing the dumb 500 words blog
“wega555” http://www.intellipoker.de/blogs/?idblog=1516
(he just sended the link of his old blog that he didnt updated for a year and don’t has a 500 word blog,too)
“ShAd_1337” http://www.intellipoker.de/blogs/pos...9#.UTZDrjeRdec
(he started the blog on 01.03.2013..he writes in his first sentence that this is his first blog post)

And the list can go on...Thanks to cookiemonsta for sharing those bloggers.

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Old 03-05-2013, 08:25 PM   #18
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Re: Attention " real "bloggers: WBCOOP is a farce!

Looks like some people are playing more than 10 events in some other scam with unlimited tickets?

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Looks like some people are playing more than 10 events in some other scam with unlimited tickets?

lol...thats crazy.... they made 2 blogs maybe? and stars gave them 20 tickets?
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:35 AM   #20
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Seriously I think that Pokerstarsblog employes are some incompetents.
Statements like this serve no purpose, they just make you look stupid and unable to argue in a constructive way. By the way, the fake bloggers also play fake poker as well, just use it to your advantage ...
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:36 AM   #21
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Statements like this serve no purpose, they just make you look stupid and unable to argue in a constructive way. By the way, the fake bloggers also play fake poker as well, just use it to your advantage ...
Maybe you're right but you got no ideea how frustating this is.

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lol...thats crazy.... they made 2 blogs maybe? and stars gave them 20 tickets?
or maybe they got no blog and stars gave them 20 tickets lol

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Old 03-06-2013, 02:09 PM   #22
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Re: Attention " real "bloggers: WBCOOP is a farce!

Or maybe they are from Russia?
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:13 PM   #23
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Maybe you're right but you got no ideea how frustating this is.
Stop making assumptions I am a pretty active blogger.
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Today's PLO Turbo was definitely a skill game with 5 minute blinds. At least a decent player that I know won it ...
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Re: Attention " real "bloggers: WBCOOP is a farce!

My final post is about dancing, the PokerStars DJ and the buffet. Good bye, WBCOOP. It can be found at http://nicsmixer.blogspot.de/2013/03...t-blogger.html. Nice part of it: A greek blogger found my blog post at this forum and commented it. Thanks again, Kat.

@Mike Heaven: You've edited my last post. I'd be glad to read why. Thanks a lot!

Cheers, Nico
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