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10-30-2014 , 03:29 PM
After 34 pages of pure whine here's the cliff:

- PS doesn't give a **** about what you think so...
- Rake elsewhere and spread the word
- (PS meeting are pointless, since important topics aren't discussed)

Now stop complain
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10-30-2014 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 7deuc3
since they are trying to get rid of online pros, will they abandon team pro online, and have a new team fish online, if so how do i apply
Play 2NL and stay under rake cap, limp all your hands and dont bet unless you have the nuts
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10-30-2014 , 03:31 PM
I obv did that earlier SNE calculation while playing and it's wrong. Actually SNE would obv be worth the same as it is now. Just a lot harder to break even.
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10-30-2014 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ezdonkey
In b4 pots are raked preflop

Probably shouldn't have said that out aloud in case someone from Amaya is reading this thread
Poker Stars Steve has long abandoned this thread

InB4 Poker Stars delays/cancels/refuses to send withdrawals of players closing their accounts.
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10-30-2014 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General

- PS doesn't give a **** about what you think so...
Amaya only see's the added revenue. If more people close their PS accounts than the bean counters at Amaya originally planned then they might reconsider.
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10-30-2014 , 03:34 PM
IMO introduce VIP buttons to increase pocket pairs by 8%, VIP cards to increase luck factor by 10%. 24h boost to increase 25% more chance to hit your flushdraws.

Inb4 buy permanent slots to increase your table limit from 2 to X.
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10-30-2014 , 03:36 PM
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10-30-2014 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by aross76
Amaya only see's the added revenue. If more people close their PS accounts than the bean counters at Amaya originally planned then they might reconsider.

they doesn't care... only a few players would closing their accounts, so you aren't hurting them
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10-30-2014 , 03:43 PM
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10-30-2014 , 03:50 PM
When I was in college I played in a band and we offered to play at this one bar that was dead and about to close down. We played every Friday night and brought our following there. We made all the money from the door and the bar was jamming every Friday and making a ton of money at register. It was a great relationship. But then they told us we couldn't play Fridays because they didn't need us to bring in crowds anymore but we could play Mondays because they were dead. We told them thanks but no thanks. One of my favorite memories is going in there with my band mate on a Friday night a couple of months later. We sat at the bar and had a beer. The place was completely empty. A few months later the owners got busted burning the place down in an insurance scam.
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10-30-2014 , 03:52 PM
Amaya why don't you introduce ads between the hands, instead of killing the games?
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10-30-2014 , 03:53 PM
They sure knew how to set the brand name in flames which can't be good.

Looking at the competition I get at least some of their moves (after all it's just business), but they went too much berserk imo.

Also not informing our player rep about these changes was just completely unnecessary.

It might/probably will still play out well for them but I think they missplayed it in multiple ways.
They could have gotten away with a lot without really messing with Stars 'good' name.

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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
When I was in college I played in a band and we offered to play at this one bar that was dead and about to close down. We played every Friday night and brought our following there. We made all the money from the door and the bar was jamming every Friday and making a ton of money at register. It was a great relationship. But then they told us we couldn't play Fridays because they didn't need us to bring in crowds anymore but we could play Mondays because they were dead. We told them thanks but no thanks. One of my favorite memories is going in there with my band mate on a Friday night a couple of months later. We sat at the bar and had a beer. The place was completely empty. A few months later the owners got busted burning the place down in an insurance scam.
Haha nice story.

I can imagine the Stars HQ being burned down as a last desperate act
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10-30-2014 , 03:58 PM
Is this gonna affect anyone going for sne next year grinding cash games (no cap) are we screwed, obv hu hyper players are fked if going for sne.
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10-30-2014 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sipio
link? i cant find it
They never specially stated what was being changed; just said it be a big change. Every one just assumed the worst after **** got serious.
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10-30-2014 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Erebgil_bg
Amaya why don't you introduce ads between the hands, instead of killing the games?
hahahahahhah. genius. finally some class in thread .
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10-30-2014 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB
Yeah, that would make up for it. Maybe make the avatars a little bigger too, thanks.
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10-30-2014 , 04:10 PM
In b4:
'DAILY FOLD LIMIT REACHED.
Please choose call, or raise'
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10-30-2014 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Erebgil_bg
Amaya why don't you introduce ads between the hands, instead of killing the games?
+ That would be very entertaining specially when if you're single tabling. But I would expect to get paid some fpps for watching your ads
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10-30-2014 , 04:16 PM
watching up to 24 ads at the same time sounds even more entertaining to me.

zoom tables would play an ad after every street.
that would also increase for table chat. imagine someone turning a 2outer against you and the second after you're looking at some ad for cleaning supplies.
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10-30-2014 , 04:22 PM
I'm fairly sure this can't be good for them in the long term.

Really says something about management that is more short sighted than management that was operating in the grey market for years.
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10-30-2014 , 04:23 PM
if playing the "Krispy Kreme Donuts Sunday Million" and having to sit through a 30-second commercial every time I logged in meant I wouldn't pay rake on my rebuys, count me in
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10-30-2014 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cbt
watching up to 24 ads at the same time sounds even more entertaining to me.

zoom tables would play an ad after every street.
that would also increase for table chat. imagine someone turning a 2outer against you and the second after you're looking at some ad for cleaning supplies.
hahahahahahahahahahha
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10-30-2014 , 04:36 PM
What would happen if we do these protests and we somehow were very successful and managed to cut their quarter revenue by 10% of what it would normally be. Would it have effect for shareholders? Would they have pressure to lower the rake back?
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10-30-2014 , 04:37 PM
I doubt a 10% reduction in gross revenue would cut it
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10-30-2014 , 04:43 PM
All Team pros are tweeting some random stuff like they dont know about this.
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