Alobar's "Who's coming with me?" thread (moving out of the US to play online) - Page 9 - Internet Poker

If enough of you guys get together you can probably overthrow the Mexican government and then legalize weed and stuff and just have a little poker paradise...

Cuba may be up for grabs too.

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04-16-2011 , 07:54 PM

#202

M.A.H.P.'s

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possibly you could overthrow the GOV'T, but good luck with the real power in mexico.

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04-16-2011 , 08:01 PM

#203

Sly Caveat

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I saw a nature documentary on Cuba the other night and I would insta-move there if it were possible. That country is breathtaking. Of course, the reason it's still like that is probably because we're not allowed there.

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04-16-2011 , 08:11 PM

#204

flash237

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has anyone considered Chile?? I've heard good things.

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04-16-2011 , 08:18 PM

#205

lacky

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Originally Posted by M.A.H.P.'s

possibly you could overthrow the GOV'T, but good luck with the real power in mexico.

they'd be the ones selling us the drugs.

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04-16-2011 , 08:40 PM

#206

sledghammer

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According to my stars phone call:

Once you have proof of residence outside the US, and a foreign bank account, they don't care where you live (as long as it's outside the US.) So once you get a bank account somewhere, you aren't tied to playing in that country.

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04-16-2011 , 08:43 PM

#207

CRUDEFINDER

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Originally Posted by lacky

they'd be the ones selling us the drugs.

A perfect world...

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04-16-2011 , 09:09 PM

#208

martyvanlunchbox

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I live in Australia - Problem with anybody planning on moving here is that where the US goes, we soon follow. Unless you actually play poker online people assume that online poker is the same as playing pokie (slot machines they might be called elsewhere???) machines. Even in the news.com.au where I read the article about the Stars, Tilt, etc shutdown they had a picture of a pokie machine.

Anyway my point is some well meaning, clueless, dip**** politician is bound to try to pass some legislation to stop us from playing soon enough. As an adult clearly I am not qualified to make a decision regarding how to spend my time/money even if it is not hurting anybody.

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04-16-2011 , 09:14 PM

#209

ThePreacherJesse

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Any country you go where online poker is not explicitly legal, you face the risk of the same problems. So where is it explicitly legal?

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04-16-2011 , 09:23 PM

#210

amazinmets73

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Originally Posted by Shoe

There are like 180 countries in the world or something like that, at least 50 of which are worth visiting. Just stay in one until you get deported, then go to another.

Sounds like a life to me...

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04-16-2011 , 09:28 PM

#211

qwints

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The UK.

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04-16-2011 , 09:31 PM

#212

Pistons

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in for anywhere..SNE...lmk

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04-16-2011 , 09:44 PM

#213

ZabuMafu

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Originally Posted by cashman991

Take this oppurtunity to travel the world. Only problem is, would need permanent residency elsewhere or still not be aloud to play I think? But seriously, I'm so down if anyone wanted to have a 1 year poker trip or something. I finally managed some steady profit in internet poker for a month or two and then this happens?!?! Anyone PM me if you want to talk about ideas on where to travel, I am from New York, 24 M.

Jeremy

Where in NY? Me (24) and my buddy (25) grind together almost daily in Queens. Not sure what we will do now. Gonna wait a few weeks and see how things play out before making any serious decisions. Might have to dust off the college diploma and join the 9 to 5 world

No idea how to explain the 2 yr gap in resume.

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04-16-2011 , 09:48 PM

#214

TimM

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I did a comparison in TurboTax:

In U.S.:

80K Schedule C income: $24,000 tax bill

With foreign earned income exclusion:

80K Schedule C income: $11,000 tax bill

80K net "Gambling income not reported on W2-G" minus losses in itemized deductions: $0 tax bill

Not sure what criteria they would use to force you to use a schedule C though.

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04-16-2011 , 09:50 PM

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sledghammer

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You have to file as schedule C (and pay SE tax) to get the foreign earned income exclusion. When I did the calcs I only saved a couple grand, not sure how yours is different

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04-16-2011 , 09:52 PM

#216

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My understanding with Canada is that when your 6-month visitor visa runs out, you can just pay a small fee and get an automatic 6-month extension, and do this every six months indefinitely? I think they require you to show that you have enough money to support yourself ($1000 per month of your stay I think I read?), but otherwise you can just keep re-applying forever. I'll try to find some sources for this info and post it here soon, but maybe someone more knowledgeable can confirm/deny in the meantime?

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04-16-2011 , 10:01 PM

#217

ZabuMafu

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What about going to a different country and playing under a resident's name? Let's say a trusted relative or someone you know won't rob you.

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04-16-2011 , 10:05 PM

#218

borgbodog

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doesnt canada tax winnings if youre a pro? to get the exlcusion on your first 95k or whatever living abroad you would have to file as a pro

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04-16-2011 , 10:35 PM

#219

ekdikeo

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Originally Posted by starvingwriter82

Um.... any site that allows US players has to do those kinds of things to get the money to and from American players.

It's not like FTP, PS, etc. were doing it for fun.

I would disagree with that. In my 3 years as a semi-pro on Everleaf, cash outs were done with perfectly legit wire transfers, and cash ins were done with various other legit methods (my last cash in about a year ago was done with a Visa, and the transaction was properly coded).

Unlike, say, AP, where my last cash in was coded as a transaction for wedding supplies. Thank God my girlfriend didn't see -that-.

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04-16-2011 , 11:08 PM

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squeebo

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A few questions about moving temporarily to Canada -

Any idea what it will take to open a Canadian bank account nowadays as a visiting US citizen and non-resident of Canada?

Does FTP have any restriction on transferring money to Canada currently?

If FTP will transfer money, what documentation does FTP require in such a situation where a player account was US based, and what withdrawal options are available? I imagine nobody here has been in this situation, but guesses are welcome.

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04-16-2011 , 11:38 PM

#221

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Originally Posted by squeebo

Any idea what it will take to open a Canadian bank account nowadays as a visiting US citizen and non-resident of Canada?

My understanding is that it's pretty easy to open a Canadian bank account as a US citizen, I believe that someone posted earlier in this thread that you don't even necessarily have to be in Canada to open one.

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04-16-2011 , 11:38 PM

#222

LOL_GOLF_BALLS

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Perhaps this whole fiasco will result in something positive.

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04-16-2011 , 11:45 PM

#223

riskybiz23

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Originally Posted by Makras

No it is not

It's a prety damm cool country iam from the us but some pretty bard ass clubs hot chicks vilinius kauanus are pretty cool city's lot history kool place

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04-17-2011 , 12:14 AM

#224

Shoe

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Originally Posted by riskybiz23

It's a prety damm cool country iam from the us but some pretty bard ass clubs hot chicks vilinius kauanus are pretty cool city's lot history kool place

Did you even read his comments?