I found one place that pretty much said it was ******edly easy to get a Canadian bank account and another that said you need a permanent residency card (which means you need a job and ****). Not sure which is true

you guys could try bahamas... most caribbean countries dont require a visa for americans i think...

if you have a decent income from poker then living in a third world country is not so bad.. ive been middle/upper middle class in jamaica my whole life, dont knock it till you try it just saying


p.s i dont think you guys should be taking such action until a few months when the situation is more clear anyways...

I'm looking into moving to Canada as well probably by Summer. Hoping if we (US citizens) can't withdraw funds for a while than as long as we prove to stars we are residents of canada its all good. Only question being if we stay there for six months will we have problems opening up a canadian bank account and providing a utility bill for stars?

I agree we should wait it out and see what happens but if anyone wants to discuss moving to the Vancouver area and getting a house together so we are at least in it together feel free to pm me.

So if you do have a valued skill set it is possible to immigrate to Canada even if you don't have a means lined up that immediately utilizes that skill set? Say somebody had a degree from a top university in a science field, postgrad research experience in applied maths, and some industry experience, etc. Would this make the process fairly pain free, or would them having a job lined up with IBM or whomever be close to mandatory? The cab drivers with graduate degrees grabbed my attention for better or for worse!

I recall reading there is some 'x in y' days restriction for US citizens in the Bahamas. It was something like 240 days max in any one rolling year period. Stuff like that actually makes it much more difficult to live in places due to restrictions on how long you can rent a place, etc.

all these ideas about leaving are great for americans because if your making 100k plus ud obv leave asap.... but first we need to find out if wed even be able to play elsewhere since were american citizens before we make life altering moves... i highly doubt stars is gonna allow us to fly to mexico, and allow us to change our address from us to gordito la cuidad and allow us to play instantly...

if this is the case and were able to do this in a week, today is pretty much a bad hangover... i think its highly unlikely though, and dont wanna ruin anyones parade, but we need to think with common sense... im currently stuck in bed, csnt walk for a while and figured this b perfect time to add in some serious vppps for elite.. oo did they ***** ruin my gameplan as well as having 95 percent of my money online...

not sure bout visa laws but if able to still play poker online in another country look into the canary islands... stayed there for 2 months this past winter... weather is hot all year round, non stressed lifestyle, beautiful scenery, beautiful people, and nightlife is 1 am to sunrise.. supposedly i was the first american there... noone knows about this place here, its a major winter tourist spot for nordics...

Wish i can just sleep to monday morning and wake up with everything back to normal... i feel like someone just shot me in the stomach.. gl to us

...and just how are you going to get the money out? Tourists can't open bank accounts, you know.

Permanent residency.

My wife and I have been doing research on this for awhile because she closed her bank account when she moved to Korea.

To get a bank account, you need a permanent address, two pieces of ID (one govt. issued), and permanent resident status.

Coming over for six months and hanging out on a tourist Visa doesn't even come close to getting you those things, unfortunately.

You have to be good looking to get a girlfriend (a sexy one anyways) you are a mod of an internet forum so my guess is that's not the case for you. My suggestion, is get a fat aussie, marry her and just lock her in the basement.

gl

I have lived in Vegas my whole life so im pretty much over hanging out in over priced nightclubs. Perth has weather that looks amazing, im just wondering how hard it would be to gain citizenship. Im pretty much done with the US and seriously looking to move. I have years of experience in the personal injury field and my GF works in the hotel industry. I have heard its easier to gain citizenship if your a professional. Also wondering if Perth is exspensive in terms of housing. Like how much would a 4 bedroom 2+ bathroom 1700+ sq ft house cost me?

I've lived abroad for over two years now. So I know a lot about this. 3 good options are: Buenos Aires Argentina, Lima Peru and The Philippines.

GETTING A VISA...DONT BOTHER?
Actually getting a permanent residency visa somewhere is a pain in the ass and generally not easy to do (especially in first world countries). You basically need to prove you are rich and then jump through all these hoops to get a visa.

However, there are some countries that you can simply show up at and stay indefinitely on a tourist visa. These are obviously all 3rd world countries. The ones I know of and have lived in are: Argentina, Peru and The Philippines.

In Argentina you are given a 90day tourist visa however u can simply leave the country and immediately re-enter. In Buenos Aires, it is pretty easy as you just take a 3 hr boat ride across the bay to Uruguay.

Another way is to simply overstay your tourist visa. This is generally a very bad idea in most countries as there are stiff punishments. However, in Peru this is not the case. They simply charge you $1 per day that you over stay. I stayed in Peru for over 8 months once. Upon leaving they tallied up the days I overstayed and charged me a $100 and somethin dollars. No questions asked. You can also do the leave and come back trick if you dont want to technically break the law, but I don't think its necessary. I currently live in Lima and I highly recommend it.

In the Philippines, they let you keep extending your tourist visa. You pay an extension fee every couple months of $30 or so per month and they are happy to let you stay as long as you want.

Most countries allow 90 days as a tourist, however these countries give Americans 180 days: Canada, Mexico and the UK. So you could live half the year in one of those countries and then the other half in another.

FOREIGN BANK ACCOUNT
Most countries wont simply let a not resident open a bank account. Peru it is possible I hear but technically the banks are not suppose to let you. In Argentina, it is impossible. The Philippines seems like you can open one easily according to google answers. I need to do some research on this as I was always too lazy to bother setting up a foreign account. But now it looks like this is going to be necessary.

In theory, you can take a trip to a country that allows this and open an account. You dont have to necessarily live there. Accessing the money can be done using a ATM card which would work most anywhere in the world. However, you are going to get fee'd 2-3% usually for making a foreign transaction. Accessing larger amounts of money could be tricky though if you are not in the country. There is probably some way around this. You could definitely do international wires to your US account but that usually requires you physically going into the bank which is tricky if you aren't in the country.

TAX SAVINGS!
You do not have to pay federal income tax on the first 90-something thousand dollars you make if you are physically outside the USA for 330 days in a 365 period. You do not need to be an official resident anywhere or anything. I have used this exemption, its pretty straight forward.

Americans can open bank accounts in Canada.

There's still a few houses available for rent in Thailand

And why does the bank account have to be canadian? Surely there is some foreign country that offers bank accounts using an easily attainable p.o. box address? i'm assuming poker stars is blocking united states IP's and people using U.S. bank accounts, but who knows....

As long as your physical address is in canada and you aren't affiliated with any united states financial institution when poker stars does transactions with you, there's no problem right?

I don't know why I didn't simply google the question of whether an american can open a canadian bank account but now that I googled it, a few people are saying it's in fact possible.

Someone recommended simply calling up the banks and asking, which I plan to do on Monday. If all goes well, see you guys there.

Warning: do not take tax advice from this thread.

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link please. I'm looking (again) myself now and I can find a few websites that just make random claims about how easy it is, but whenever I look at an actual bank they suggest, they want proof of residence, etc.

A valid long-term visa in your new country of residency is enough to quality for a Neteller account. Then you can fund it directly with cash if you want. (Fund options vary by country but for the most part it is pretty easy.)

Each site will also want to verify your residency before you cash out. Usually that means utility bills, bank statements, and cell phone bills in your name and coming to your non-US address.

I'm an American and I have a Canadian bank account. I opened it a few years ago in a border city with one of the Big Five banks. I had no problems doing this. I get monthly bank statement to my US address for this account.

Now I've not used this for poker, so that is a different issue. But if you are American and want to open a bank account in Canada, you shouldn't have a problem.

Mr Plow, can you e-mail me on just exactly which bank in Canada you use? PM me if you can?

Also, I just found out that you can in fact get a canadian bank account. So it's still possible to play in US if you want but the question is, once we do it, will it still be worth it? What are teh number going to be on FTP and stars once they close off american players? 15,000 players?

Guess what happens to the games if American fish disappear but American regs emigrate. Everyone be prepared to move down two levels. And by everyone I include also Euro regs.

This was already happening in the American pool. Deposits became so difficult that that the pool became stronger and stronger. Games are great on Stars and FTP right now.

How about playing on a Canadian accounts with a small fee?

I am Canadian, have really good deal with ongame network, and good rakeback on other site. Wouldn't it be easier to just come to Canada and play on someone account? I am a struggling online player for 7yrs, would love to lend account for like $200 a month. And a room for rent too for $400 a month with everything included like very fast 15x internet if you don't mind the city of Calgary. Withdrawing money is no problem for me with Moneybookers. I would love to have a 2rd source of income beside poker. Or use my room and account for free if you can coach me to beat 100nl 6-max for 2bb/100....lol. Oh also there is like 6 casino in calgary. I think 3 casino host omaha hi, 2 casino host $1000 buyin and 1 is $10,000 buyin.

im in. i live in MN so its close lol