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Old 06-27-2012, 05:48 PM   #46
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Re: 5050poker, another MicroGaming skin down the road? (bites the dust)

Yup my money's gone as well. Guess it was just numbers on a screen afterall. Cant ****ing believe it. Should be a BIG BIG warning to everyone to avoid playing on smaller sites, esp. on networks with a shady history I guess.
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:21 PM   #47
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yep, 2 years of grinding down the drain and 90+% of the money I had on there was my deposit, only been there few months.

The only site I would ever play on now is pokerstars.
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:32 PM   #48
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My money disappeared 2 weeks ago when i requested a withdrawal of my whole balance on 5050. In "Transaction History" on their site my withdrawal is not listed. Don't know if it's standard for them, because i joined 5050 in the beginning of May and never withdrew so far.
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:47 PM   #49
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My money disappeared 2 weeks ago when i requested a withdrawal of my whole balance on 5050. In "Transaction History" on their site my withdrawal is not listed. Don't know if it's standard for them, because i joined 5050 in the beginning of May and never withdrew so far.
same. I requested withdrawal about a week before they closed and i don't see anything on my transaction history either. Just balance £0.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:17 AM   #50
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My money disappeared 2 weeks ago when i requested a withdrawal of my whole balance on 5050. In "Transaction History" on their site my withdrawal is not listed. Don't know if it's standard for them, because i joined 5050 in the beginning of May and never withdrew so far.
Thats standard
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:25 AM   #51
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No, getting rid of leaching operators and encouraging recreational players is good for the network.

The only ones to blame for 5050poker's demise, is 5050poker. Palming off the blame to the network is nonsense.... also in light of a recent article it states "Microgaming said that the decision relates to 'a material breach of contract' by 5050Poker regarding 'non-payment of monies owed to cure their overdrawn network clearing account'."

This means 5050 owed the network money when transferring funds between the operators to reconcile player wins/loss. If someone owed you money, you'd take action... whose fault is it that this whole situation has arisen? I think you'll find it's the debtors fault.
Pff. U really dont know what ur talking about!! Encourage recreational players is good for the network? Why the **** would that be good. Grinders rake much more then recreational players. And a network easily can deal with that (Ipoker. much bigger then Microgaming). No m8 its not that. Unibet and Ladbrokes were complaining that their players were leaving to other skins because of the better deals for example 5050 gave. Microgaming never did say anything about any deal untill Unibet and Ladbrokes file a complaint. Because of the importancy of Unibet and Ladbrokes for Microgaming they did some tablecapping to "help" Unibet and Ladbrokes. Well that offcourse worked again....

And when u would do some homework and look at www.5050pokerholding.se u would see money is not the real problem thta this went wrong for 5050. U think Pokerstars could pay every player his money if they all withdraw today????
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:31 AM   #52
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U think Pokerstars could pay every player his money if they all withdraw today????
Yes. They segregate player funds.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:32 AM   #53
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Pff. U really dont know what ur talking about!! Encourage recreational players is good for the network? Why the **** would that be good. Grinders rake much more then recreational players.
So your plan is for grinders to play each other with no new players coming in? That network would die very quickly as rake is still being taken out of the system.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:52 AM   #54
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Encourage recreational players is good for the network? Why the **** would that be good.
Wow. On an Internet full of ridiculous statements, this is one in serious competition for the worst of them all.

I'm not for a minute going to argue that Microgaming has handled this well, but if your comment was serious, it's probably time to back away from the keyboard.
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:52 AM   #55
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Wow. On an Internet full of ridiculous statements, this is one in serious competition for the worst of them all.

I'm not for a minute going to argue that Microgaming has handled this well, but if your comment was serious, it's probably time to back away from the keyboard.
jokotokolino - you're clearly deluded, as reaffirmed by following comments of your post from other members...

A shark infested network is not sustainable, as there will be no fish left in the end. Grinders rake more, but ultimately are taking money away from the poker economy... Christ this is simple economics here, it's not rocket science!

And you make the comparison to Ipoker, did you not know that Ipoker are now splitting into two to ring-fence off the sharks/RB nits?!

And yes, PokerStars do segregate funds...

So on all your points, you are utterly and comprehensively wrong. You're so biased towards a grinders perspective, that you cannot see simple facts! And with this, the funniest thing is that you accuse me of not knowing what i'm talking about?!?! hahaha

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Old 06-28-2012, 08:41 AM   #56
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Suspension of 5050 Poker Limited
The Lotteries and Gaming Authority hereby notifies that the remote gaming licence LGA/CL3/337/2007 held by 5050 Poker Limited has been suspended as of 27th June 2012.

5050 Poker Limited operated a Class 3 licence (for Poker) through URL www.5050poker.com

Other types of games offered through www.5050poker.com are not licensed by the Lotteries and Gaming Authority.

Players who deem to have any outstanding payments due to them on the mentioned licence are to send an email to complaints@lga.org.mt and should submit the following information:

1. Name and Surname
2. Registered Address
3. Date of Birth
4. Certified True Copy of Passport, or ID Card or Driving Licence (by email or post)
5. Telephone Number
6. User Name
7. Amount of Claim of Balance or pending Cash Out
8. Screenshot of Balance or any Cash Out's pending (if not available estimated balance)

The Lotteries and Gaming Authority notifies that no further information shall be released at this stage in order not to compromise any investigations that may need to be performed.
http://www.lga.org.mt/lga/content.aspx?id=328106

the LGA did the same when Stryyke went belly-up but i can't recall if any or all players who complained got their money back.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:10 AM   #57
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Re: 5050poker, another MicroGaming skin down the road? (bites the dust)

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Old 06-29-2012, 07:40 AM   #58
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Yes. They segregate player funds.
Well I can tell u from the inside they do with the most of it but not the full 100%. They will have no problems when 50% of the money will be withdrawn but when it would be more then 50% on 1 day they have a big problem.

U have different ways to segregate u know.
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:42 AM   #59
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jokotokolino - you're clearly deluded, as reaffirmed by following comments of your post from other members...

A shark infested network is not sustainable, as there will be no fish left in the end. Grinders rake more, but ultimately are taking money away from the poker economy... Christ this is simple economics here, it's not rocket science!

And you make the comparison to Ipoker, did you not know that Ipoker are now splitting into two to ring-fence off the sharks/RB nits?!

And yes, PokerStars do segregate funds...

So on all your points, you are utterly and comprehensively wrong. You're so biased towards a grinders perspective, that you cannot see simple facts! And with this, the funniest thing is that you accuse me of not knowing what i'm talking about?!?! hahaha
Is it important to know the different between sharks en recreational players. U can think both ways. I know from the inside that Unibet and Ladbrokes are behind this.

Its also reported that 5050 had enough assets in march. But we all know what happens when it ends like this.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:03 PM   #60
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Is it important to know the different between sharks en recreational players. U can think both ways. I know from the inside that Unibet and Ladbrokes are behind this.

Its also reported that 5050 had enough assets in march. But we all know what happens when it ends like this.
Of course the likes of Unibet and Ladbrokes have an influence. If you were an poker room pumping in millions into a marketing campaign to bring in new players into the network, only to be either gobbled up by sharks (from the likes of 5050) or poached with rakeback deals (from the likes of 5050) - then wouldn't you be reporting this to the network?

It doesn't take inside knowledge to know this! This is occurrent on iPoker and Ongame, with the split network and the rake system used in ongame, whereby the bigger operators want a degree of protection by the network.

The lack of willingness to blame 5050 poker by some people is baffling?! I may as well break into your house and steal your tv, because going by your logic, I won't be to blame, you can blame the police for arresting me! And what's more, if I get locked up, my kids will have no food to eat, but I'll be blameless in all of this... it'll be like I'm freerolling all the way!

SAY YES TO A LAW-LESS SOCIETY!!!
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