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08-29-2011 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Chillypill
i would never ever deposit even 1$ on such a scumbag site. I mean just the fact that its run by Romanian guys = not creditable

Fkn gypsys
So romanians as a people cannot be trusted? Everyone is a gypsy?

Think this post says more about you, than it does about dollaro.

Its more than fair enough you dont want to play on dollaro, but the statement about romanians is a bit far out.

Daniel
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08-29-2011 , 08:40 AM
shillish
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08-29-2011 , 11:14 AM
Daniel you and Djo and Self made are affiliating dollaro and that's ok but it isn't a place here to promote them so blatantly.
The way it works (or at least the way I got info it works) make this network far more risky than any other.
Basically you make your account via agent and that agent has full access to your account so he can make deposit/withdrawals from your account any time he wants(basically he has full access to your account). Of course there are legit agents but there is many scammers too that try to run "get rich quick scheme".
A friend of mine was scammed there, her agent paid all of his Italian customers but didn't pay his international players. If you made your account via agent you can't even prove that you are owner of that account.
Basically everything is based on trust between you and the agent you have. Even if he is legit guy he has agents that are higher in the hierarchy (international, regional,etc.) . If one of them decide to scum you won't get your money.
Of course the site is fishy but there is a huge risk involved to.
I understand guys that you are trying to make a bussines here and attract players to play there and that's fine but you have to be also honest with your potential customers.
The site is fishy but there is huge risk for your bankroll too.
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08-29-2011 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gargamel_fk
Daniel you and Djo and Self made are affiliating dollaro and that's ok but it isn't a place here to promote them so blatantly.
The way it works (or at least the way I got info it works) make this network far more risky than any other.
Basically you make your account via agent and that agent has full access to your account so he can make deposit/withdrawals from your account any time he wants(basically he has full access to your account). Of course there are legit agents but there is many scammers too that try to run "get rich quick scheme".
A friend of mine was scammed there, her agent paid all of his Italian customers but didn't pay his international players. If you made your account via agent you can't even prove that you are owner of that account.
Basically everything is based on trust between you and the agent you have. Even if he is legit guy he has agents that are higher in the hierarchy (international, regional,etc.) . If one of them decide to scum you won't get your money.
Of course the site is fishy but there is a huge risk involved to.
I understand guys that you are trying to make a bussines here and attract players to play there and that's fine but you have to be also honest with your potential customers.
The site is fishy but there is huge risk for your bankroll too.
Me, Djo and Selfmade promotes Dollaro yes.

But neither of us are paying advertisers, so we cannot contact people and give them deals.

Im not writing here to promote dollaro - i cannot offer anything if anyone is interested anyway. I wont take a ban to offer a deal

Im writing here because sometimes people get scammed and warn other people, which is good obv. But the thread has also taken a turn where people tend to say that the network cannot be trusted. As i wrote earlier, if you deal with the wrong people you can end up losing your money. But people shouldnt get scared away from value, if they can deal with people that dont scam.

Agents do have full access to player accounts, player funds etc. Thats the way the italian networks are build up. That agents handles deposits and withdrawals for players, get cash irl etc.

So we agree on that people can get scammed, and is probably more likely to be than on other networks. But there is also legit people and legit deals out there to be taken advantage of.
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08-29-2011 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Chillypill
i would never ever deposit even 1$ on such a scumbag site. I mean just the fact that its run by Romanian guys = not creditable

Fkn gypsys
Prejustice much??

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Originally Posted by gargamel_fk
Daniel you and Djo and Self made are affiliating dollaro and that's ok but it isn't a place here to promote them so blatantly.
The way it works (or at least the way I got info it works) make this network far more risky than any other.
Basically you make your account via agent and that agent has full access to your account so he can make deposit/withdrawals from your account any time he wants(basically he has full access to your account). Of course there are legit agents but there is many scammers too that try to run "get rich quick scheme".
A friend of mine was scammed there, her agent paid all of his Italian customers but didn't pay his international players. If you made your account via agent you can't even prove that you are owner of that account.
Basically everything is based on trust between you and the agent you have. Even if he is legit guy he has agents that are higher in the hierarchy (international, regional,etc.) . If one of them decide to scum you won't get your money.
Of course the site is fishy but there is a huge risk involved to.
I understand guys that you are trying to make a bussines here and attract players to play there and that's fine but you have to be also honest with your potential customers.
The site is fishy but there is huge risk for your bankroll too.
I've seen so many posts like yours and they are just irritating, because you are CLEARLY just an affiliate trying to take shots at sites you don't promote. What makes you so certain they are not as trustworthy as anyone else? Because they don't have the same license that Full Tilt or UB had?? That worked out well. Or the total BS licensing that the Cake Network has? At the point the poker world is in, all licenses are ****, and basically all one can go on is reputation. How is trusting an Agent really different from trusting a site's cashier? Why don't you explain what you claim to know that PROVES they are less trustworthy than anywhere else still operating?
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08-29-2011 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GrindUnumb
I've seen so many posts like yours and they are just irritating, because you are CLEARLY just an affiliate trying to take shots at sites you don't promote. What makes you so certain they are not as trustworthy as anyone else? Because they don't have the same license that Full Tilt or UB had?? That worked out well. Or the total BS licensing that the Cake Network has? At the point the poker world is in, all licenses are ****, and basically all one can go on is reputation. How is trusting an Agent really different from trusting a site's cashier? Why don't you explain what you claim to know that PROVES they are less trustworthy than anywhere else still operating?
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Lol at me beeing an affiliate If you at least took a decent look at my post here on 2+2 and in that thread you would see that I am just random donk that try to grind good living playing poker. My advertising skills are even worse than my poker skills.
For some reason I just always liked the "on the other hand" part of discussion.

As Daniel wrote there is nothing wrong in warning people here that it is risky to play there cause it is. I never wrote anything else and I always agreed that the site is good and fishy. Just there are frequent problems with agents that do scum players.
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08-29-2011 , 07:13 PM
so has it ever been explained why you can't just handle your money yourself? why do you have to use agents lmfao
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08-29-2011 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by YeyDrek
so has it ever been explained why you can't just handle your money yourself? why do you have to use agents lmfao
wow. seems like you haven't heard much. dollaropoker is an italian network and they have ratios with profit:rake against cashouts for all players. if you are a winning player and go through an agent who has significant loss there you won't have ratio issues and the agent can move your money without problems. if you have no agent then there's really no point to play there as cashing out €750 a week and €2k max per month is quite useless.
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08-29-2011 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gargamel_fk
If you made your account via agent you can't even prove that you are owner of that account.
Confirmed. Most agents open up accounts with "blank" everywhere, not filling with your personal info. They just give you a login and password and they're the ones who operate your account. (Since this is the way the site works)

Also, on some skins, you can't even open an account on the site yourself.

The way the networks operates allow the skins/agents to scam.
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08-31-2011 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Firzzzen
if you have no agent then there's really no point to play there as cashing out €750 a week and €2k max per month is quite useless.
At the risk of sounding un-baller, €2k per month would be useful to me. Would signing up directly with Dollaro, and giving them only enough action to win €2k each month, be a reasonable way to approach the site? Would I have problems with the rake to win ratio, or because I'm not Italian? Is there something else that I am missing?
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08-31-2011 , 12:56 PM
No-one should play on this site, its crooked. Its probably a quasi ponzi-scheme in that most of the players are so bad because they are extremely dumb bots losing $ but the money they lose doesn't exist anyway as they never really pay out and only pay out to a few to keep the ponzi scheme alive. Either way its extremely high risk to play on here and not recommended.

I am planning on datamining and blowing the lid on this site some point next year.
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08-31-2011 , 02:45 PM
Did u ever get all ur money ?
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09-01-2011 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dillon1977
i hope to be paid but my dead line is the end of this month,then gg.
Well it's past the end of the month, have you paid the money back yet?
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09-02-2011 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BigShades
Well it's past the end of the month, have you paid the money back yet?
No money from what ive heard.

Guess thats why this site is up now: http://bernardinodillonvittorino.blogspot.com/
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09-02-2011 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BigShades
Well it's past the end of the month, have you paid the money back yet?
i still waiting my money,i don't have it. this website is redic cause i'm not a big agent and i haven't the power
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09-02-2011 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dillon1977
LIKE A PLAYER!!!!!!
Try lowlife scumbag
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09-03-2011 , 02:49 AM
I played dollaro for a period of 3-4 months from January 2011 and out until about April, mostly mid/highstakes.

This is not a place to have anything above 1k euro, do NOT listen to the idiots "Djo", "Self made" and "Daniel A". They say it's fairly safe with a reputable agent? BULL**** - They just wanna make money without any regard for their players $$ safety.

Nobody takes any responsibility on this network what so ever, everything is good until suddenly its not. Dollaro doesn't pay the agent? "Sorry, you are on your own. I'm struggling to get my own money out". Everyone is just pointing fingers and blaming eachother. What the **** is the point of having a agent if they take no responsibility what so ever? They are supposed to handle the deposit/cashout, if the cashout doesnt happen, then obviously they should either a) fix the problem b) pay out of own pocket.

I know players that are owed a combined €100k+ on this network still, waiting 3months+ now and all they get are promises which are promptly delayed when the time arises.

And this is not due to limited experience, I have spoken to about 20 different agents as well as skin owners. The incompetence is amazing bordering into outright fraud in many cases.

Also, pic of one of the many agent ****wits on this network. http://bernardinodillonvittorino.blogspot.com/
Spoiler:
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09-03-2011 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BigShades
Try lowlife scumbag
i lost over 4k in 2010 when i played on sbanky poker (ex enet skin) because my italian agent told me db crashed so i lost all the rakeback on over 120k hands played on nl200 nl400 6max and hu.
i moved in another cashier in july on $ even if someone told me "don't play cause u'll never be payed" and i still waiting money .
they told me to wait another month but i think this money are lost at 95% of probability.
Even if i know this guys i don't open a scam thread with name and surname because
1)it's no sense
2)i can't do anything

The politics of this ****ing network is to work by agent,so there is always a significative probability to lost money sometimes and btw the guys that lost over 100k when $ crashed in march 2011 are my friends stupid donk ,so don't say bull**** because i'm mainly a player and i WAS a subagent but now i'm so disgusted of this guys,this way of work so i only play in a super safe room and quit (and lost money) like other people but i don't cry like a child because i know the risk.
gg
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09-03-2011 , 02:51 PM
Lol so because there is signifficant risk of being scummed and you were scammed in the past you think that it gives you right to scum other players WP sir. That there is siggnificant risk doesn't mean that you can steal someones money especcialy when you are a player yourself.
What about accusation that you paid Italians and didn't pay International players??? I think that is easy to verify.
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09-04-2011 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dillon1977
i lost over 4k in 2010 when i played on sbanky poker (ex enet skin) because my italian agent told me db crashed so i lost all
the rakeback on over 120k hands played on nl200 nl400 6max and hu.
What happened on Enet is irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by dillon1977
i moved in another cashier in july on $ even if someone told me "don't play cause u'll never be payed" and i still waiting money .
they told me to wait another month but i think this money are lost at 95% of probability.
Your first agent paid you the cashout but you only paid out to your Italian players.

Then you moved to a different agency and are still waiting for cashout from them, which has nothing to do with the first agent.
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09-06-2011 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dillon1977
i lost over 4k in 2010 when i played on sbanky poker (ex enet skin) because my italian agent told me db crashed so i lost all the rakeback on over 120k hands played on nl200 nl400 6max and hu.
i moved in another cashier in july on $ even if someone told me "don't play cause u'll never be payed" and i still waiting money .
they told me to wait another month but i think this money are lost at 95% of probability.
Even if i know this guys i don't open a scam thread with name and surname because
1)it's no sense
2)i can't do anything

The politics of this ****ing network is to work by agent,so there is always a significative probability to lost money sometimes and btw the guys that lost over 100k when $ crashed in march 2011 are my friends stupid donk ,so don't say bull**** because i'm mainly a player and i WAS a subagent but now i'm so disgusted of this guys,this way of work so i only play in a super safe room and quit (and lost money) like other people but i don't cry like a child because i know the risk.
gg
None of this changes the fact that you made a deal. You owe the money so pay it... Did you tell the person you weren't going to pay them the money when you took the deposit from them? No you didn't. Since you were the person that was trusted it is your responsibility to pay the money back no matter what the situation is with people around you. This is your name on the line so I suggest you do your best to make it a reputable one.
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09-06-2011 , 12:44 PM
I don't see how anyone can claim your money is safe, when there is obvious ties to organised crime. Do people really think the suits in charge have a business degree or industry experience?
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09-08-2011 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by fisk
I don't see how anyone can claim your money is safe, when there is obvious ties to organised crime. Do people really think the suits in charge have a business degree or industry experience?
Could you please share the source of information, that Dollaro is tied up to organised crime?
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09-08-2011 , 03:49 AM
^^ I just skimmed this thread, but why are you agents in here arguing for the integrity of this site instead of actually using your job resources to find out how to get these player's moneyback? or has the fact that the site steals already been conceded?
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09-08-2011 , 03:53 AM
You guys understand this book has been blacklisted on casino meister since like 09 right?


http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/DollaroPoker.php
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