hey guys, how are dollaro things standing in 2016?

http://calvinayre.com/2016/01/13/bus...dollaro-poker/

glad to hear those scumbags got caught.

Sucks for the players who deposited there though, I assume they lost all their deposits.
I know someone who kept bugging me to play on dollaro bc it was supposedly really soft but I kept say "nah, I like the PS software too much"

bad Tony`s, bad.

Was Romic Grozea one of the people who was arrested?

AS NOMINATED BY THE FORUM.

lol

so police busted Dollaro Poker, but why does it still appear on PokerScout running cool 2,2k players at the moment? I do not get it. Anyone has info.?

they still operating as before, they arrested some people and close some agents but all operations are handled outsite Italy so most of customers can still play...at theyr own money risck of course

playing on dollaro at the moment. it says there is 3k people online, i think they are lying. Also about the softness, its much tougher then I tough, especially headsup. Did you know people can min buyin for 20bb? So many ratholers.

id say dont play there, i played there at the beginning of the year ran up 3k to 12k and then got banned for being a winning player.

had my deposit out already, so there was 9k to cash out.. dollaro never paid my skin and my skin were thinking about not paying me until i threat them to put their name out.

Got lucky and they paid from their own pocket, very lucky. Only 1k to go and im done with this drama.

@mmtwannabe you're gonna get ban and good luck having your money cause dollaro wont pay

why would they ban me i play headsup shortstackers at 50 and 100 nl

Thank you so much for bumping this thread. I havent been on 2p2 in a while (years?), this was great to come back to. Epic, epic thread. Hell, it was epic by page 3 when I thought all was resolved...I read all 31 pages in one session. This thread had it all: the broken english post from the "owner" that we thought was a troll but turned out to actually probably be from the owner, the agent who supported Dollaro only to eventually get burned by them, the agent who supported Dollaro throughout the entire thread until he stopped paying his clients and disappeared, etc.

It was also very disturbing just how ignorant and naive lots of these posters here were. Of course, many of the people looking to play there were just clueless, but also those "helpful people explaining how the process works" were just as bad (granted, some/most of them knew what they were doing).

It's a Ponzi scheme; we get it. You deposit money, which is used to pay a previous person's cashout, and your cashouts are paid by the deposits of people after you. If there's not enough deposits to cash you out, you don't get paid. Blah blah blah, it's not complicated. IT'S ALSO A SCAM. It's disgusting to me how some of these people could just sit here openly justify these actions. I guess I shouldn't be so shocked that these criminals don't have any morals...

I think it's pretty clear that this was controlled by the mafia. It's their typical style of racket, and with the scale this thing was running at (12k terminals setup throughout Italy), it leaves very little doubt.

So who exactly were the agents? Were they actual mafia members, or were the agents themselves marks? Most of these major agents probably are members, or at least connected. It just seems too easy not to do it this way: assign a(n) associate(s) to run a club with computers connected to Dollaro, handle deposits and cashouts on-site (basically, just as you would purchase chips at a casino), kick up a percentage of the profits and keep the rest. Why would they give and trust this kind of revenue stream to an outsider?

The only thing I'm confused about are the individual agents that appear to have been screwed. Was that just a facade where they let the individual agents take the reputation hits instead of Dollaro, when they were actually in cooperation? Or were these actually just side streams of revenue that Dollaro screwed over when they felt it was in their best interest to do so?

So what does this say for someone like Ed de Haas, who posted on the first page? He says he ran a skin for Dollaro. Does that means he was an agent, too? It appears he means well, as he willingly came here into this thread to help Nextgenneo resolve his situation, but if he was an agent, that means he's implicated in this Ponzi scheme too, right? Is this a case of "I know I'm not operating ethically, but it's a win-win because I'm actually going to pay you the money you win [until I can't], and you get to play with the fish"?

Nextgenneo, it's a goddamn miracle you got your money (which you know and openly admitted to in this thread). Did anything ever happen with the data mining? I was interested in seeing that data.

This whole situation is just embarrassing for the poker community. How can we expect the government to take us seriously when we have **** like this going on? Every player here who chased the "easy money" here after knowing what Dollaro was doing is partially to blame. THESE SCENARIOS ARE WHY ONLINE POKER GETS A BAD NAME.

Why is Self Made still allowed here? He's not banned, and he is still Marketplace approved. He disappears while owing people money and ignoring their communications, and comes back a couple years later like nothing happened (and, comically, complaining about someone owing him money). Is there something I missed?

Dillon should get SOME credit. He eventually paid that one guy back when he could have just as easily stolen it. But what about all of his other clients, the ones that weren't here in public complaining? We have no way of knowing if he made that right. We also can't forget that he was a cog in this Ponzi scheme to begin with. However, the fact that he continued to finish paying his debt after the shoe dropped shoes some goodwill.

Finally, their servers are in Tampa?!?!?! FIND ME AN ADDRESS! Also, is it really legal for US servers to host foreign internet poker?

is dollaro poker rigged?

Me and my friends are waiting more than 10 days for cashout. We play on main DBG skin. In last 6 years always got money on time(in 48h). Anyone with the same problem?
Their support is offline on skype for few days.

how much u waiting for ?

120e

Is Self Made back? That guy man I though he was in jail or dead. We even had made a skype group with some players who played under him on DBG. One of those guys even checked the obituary's from his hometown He gave me such much trouble when I had money stuck on there. He was doing his job good, until it took longer and longer to get a cashout. Then he disappeared from the internet for years. And now he's back. Kinda weird that he still uses the same account, instead of making a fresh one.

Any news here about what's going on at DBGpoker. You can't play poker anymore as I explained in this topic:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../#post50318289

I just want to know if anyone has some information about what is going on over there? Maybe someone knows an Italian player that plays on there. Or maybe someone has seen a post about it on an Italian pokerforum. Just any information would be appreciated. Thanks

Edit: Reading a bit through this topic, but I did not play under an agent, I made my own account.

A * thread, seems a bit funny of self made to just vanish from 2+2 with him owing / vouching player balances with his friend dealing with most of the problems then him to just come back on 2+2 after years and still marketplace approved, maybe mod should look into that

The best way to have a mod look into something would be to contact one, but in this case, I happened to notice your post.

However, I have NO idea what you're talking about.

I think the poster was referring to Greg, or Self Made as he was known to most people on here. This guy and Robert 'Grindunumb' acted as agents for the shady, smaller sites and must have made a good chunk of change from the zoo.

I get who he was referring to, but I have no idea what incident(s) he is talking about.

Im playing via turkish site on DBG , so i have played about 6 month, no problem with cashout.

Dbgpoker is dead. The website is gone. Wonder if we see or hear anything from them again.