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02-11-2016 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by albedoa
tbqh it sounds like you tried to parrot some sage advice about when it's appropriate to fold AA and are now too invested to concede that your example is not as good as the sage's.
No, it's nothing like that, frankly. I honestly do believe that at some point, even in a cash game, it's sensible to throw away +EV after factoring in other variables when the alternative is something like the situation aforementioned.

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Originally Posted by browni3141
I don't think I'm going to understand your mindset because it is so alien to me.

It doesn't matter how often this kind of spot comes up, what has happened to get us to this spot or might happen in the future, as long as losing the money doesn't cause financial harm, in which case it was irresponsible to sit with so much money on the table. You have a choice between leaving with 2100BB 100%, or 4200BB 80% and 0BB 20%. The latter choice is worth $2520 at 1|2. You are honestly saying you would give up $2520 to lock up a win for one 14 hour session?

You are saying that every losing session you have is a waste of your time? How do you psychologically deal with all the losing sessions you inevitably have? If I thought like you I would have quit poker by now.

Even if you personally value the warm fuzzy feeling you get when you win, how can that possibly be worth $2520?

Why do you think the frequency that this spot occurs is relevant? There are loads of spots that don't come up often enough to ever be statistically significant by themselves, but when all of those rare spots are considered together they become relevant.
What are you saying? Every losing session IS a waste of time. lol

You know, it's a strange thing: make the best decision and don't be results oriented.

But at the end of the day (week, month, year, life, whatever) results are what matters. If you "run bad" for a long time, you're going to have nothing to show for it, regardless of making every +EV decision possible.
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02-11-2016 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hardball47
No, it's nothing like that, frankly. I honestly do believe that at some point, even in a cash game, it's sensible to throw away +EV after factoring in other variables when the alternative is something like the situation aforementioned.
Yes but the path you took to get there was through a series of non-sensible actions. Forget the topic of folding AA for a moment — why is it so damn difficult for you to acknowledge what everyone is saying?
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02-12-2016 , 03:06 AM
I don't think throwing away AA pre-flop is ever sensible. Unless you've done something non-sensible to put yourself in a position to make it sensible.

I honestly can't even fathom folding Aces in that spot. Even if I'm playing with money I don't have, I'm just never folding that. It's like an insult to the game I love so much.
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02-12-2016 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by albedoa
Yes but the path you took to get there was through a series of non-sensible actions. Forget the topic of folding AA for a moment — why is it so damn difficult for you to acknowledge what everyone is saying?
It's not. Throwing away massive +EV is bad poker, I get it.
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02-12-2016 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by patmister1
I don't think throwing away AA pre-flop is ever sensible.
Except on a satellite bubble, of course.
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02-12-2016 , 03:25 PM
It's amazing to me that a thread asking can you leave at any time regarding casino cash games has managed to go on for 7+ pages. Kudos 2+2
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02-12-2016 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDanimal
It's amazing to me that a thread asking can you leave at any time regarding casino cash games has managed to go on for 7+ pages. Kudos 2+2
It would only be 2 pages if you were doing it right though
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02-15-2016 , 05:00 PM
i for one am very glad this topic has been thrown around because i have a few thoughts . The other day i played at $1 $2 table at Borgata . Sat down with $140. Just busted out of a daily turbo $100 buy in. Ran it up to around $320. Contemplated leaving with my winnings but figured i hang around some more while my luck was going good. Lost a few pots sets vs 2pair same opponent. Profits were dwindling Made a stupid move i wont make again . Raised AQ suit two callers flop 2 Q K i check one bets other calls and i shove. I normally wont shove AQ post with a crappy one pair unless i have my back to wall. both call . One guy turns over JJ the other 22 . turn is J river is 2 . He goes nuts with Quads and i left broke. I should have left when i was up $180. I could care less what others think because more than likely i will never run into the same people at the table because i am not a reg.

In response to the guy that played 14hrs and lost it all then covering himself by saying he put in the hrs and thats what counts , does not make one bit of sense. When you work a 9-5 job in the real world and get payed for the time you put in , that justifies putting in hrs. By blowing your stack after 14hrs of play with nothing to show for it is just plain stupid. One of the poker pros who name i wont mention usually twitch streams on Sunday night , used the same crazy bizarre logic . When i asked if its wise to leave the table after a modest profit he replied " Thats the last thing you want . How can you expect to to build up your hourly rate or win rate EV " ? So with that logic in hand just play till your broke right? Stupid analogy Pathetic analogy. Doesn't it make more sense to leave a casino knowing you rewarded yourself for the afternoon or evening even if you only played 2hrs and got comp in the interim ?
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02-15-2016 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDanimal
It's amazing to me that a thread asking can you leave at any time regarding casino cash games has managed to go on for 7+ pages. Kudos 2+2
Hilarious! I was about to post the same thing.
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