In a 1/2 NL game, Player A opened UTG to $12. One player called, and then Player B 3-bet to $62. The action folded back to Player A.

Player A had begun the hand with $200 behind, while Player B had over $800 in front of him. Player A thought for a bit after the 3-bet, and then decided to push all-in.

The caller folded, and then the action returned to Player B. He also paused and then asked for a count. Player A replied, "I began the hand with $200," but Player B asked the dealer to count the bet. After the dealer confirmed the amount of the bet, Player B said, "I guess I call."

Player A then immediately tabled his hand, pocket Kings. As he did so, Player A asked Player B, "do you have Aces?" Player B did not respond.

The board ran out all undercards. After the last card is dealt, Player B finally tabled his hand: pocket Aces.

Would you consider Player B's conduct to be a slow-roll, or do you feel that slow rolls can only occur after the river card is dealt?

I'm not sure it matters what it's called. I'd consider the part where Player B asks for the bet to be counted and kind of begrudgingly calls to be bad etiquette assuming everyone else had folded.

Getting a count on the bet pre-flop all-in when he has Aces ... Douchy ? Yes.

Slow Roll .. No. It's possible that he wouldn't have shown his Aces if he lost.

Absolutely yes. You have aces and someone goes all in, you don't need to know how much.
He arr in? I call!

I recommend only tabling your hand once the river is dealt. Tabling it early is a courtesy.

Bad etiquette for sure he has the nuts preflop but I believe it is only a slow roll after the river knowing you have the nuts!

I wouldn't call it a slowroll but it definitely reflects badly on Player B.

Also Player A shouldn't ask whether Player B has aces. Just fastroll and if Player B doesn't want to show, let that be on him.

it's not a slow roll just a guy being an *** ****.

Not a slow roll. Had he lost and mucked, player A would assume he called the shove with with AK, QQ or less.

PS> People need to stop getting butt hurt over perceived slow rolls. Even in a blatant slow roll situation, people take it WAY to personal. Reality is they're just mad they lost.

Agreed. I go with option C: who cares?

nope, not a slow roll. next question?

B did nothing wrong IMO.

Maybe he has a bad feeling and is considering folding. He's ahead but could easily lose.

This. This. So much this.

I'd say at least 95% of the time, in my experience as a dealer, accusations of slow-rolling are unfounded. It's not a slow-roll unless it is done with a long dramatic pause, with the intent of needling you. Intent is a *crucial* element of the crime.

If someone hesistates because they're unsure it's time to table the hand, or they're distracted by something--even if that distraction is, "This is the first time in my life I've ever bet $200 on something!"--I don't want hear any slow-roll nonsense.

This whole "I can't wait to accuse someone of slow-rolling somebody else" mentality has made side-pot showdowns impossible for a dealer. We don't want the all-in player to show his straight yet, it might cause the other players to muck, leaving us no way to determine the winner of the side-pot! For 100 years, the all-in player would refrain from showing his hand until the side-pot winner was settled.

But now, there is no stopping that all-in guy from tabling his hand. He is so sensitive about being accused of slow-rolling, side-pot be damned, he's putting those cards on the table!

God help the one guy in 1000 who does it right. He gets called a slow-roller, every single time, by people who have no idea what they're talking about.

No, it isn't.

I seriously doubt that in the entire history of western civilization, anyone at a 1/2NL table who GII pre-flop with pocket aces and then lost, has ever just mucked their hand rather than show everyone how bad a beat they just suffered.

I would never show my aces if I lost the hand. Why make people think I'm only GII with AA instead of letting them think I prolly had something like AK or am willing to GII light?

Wish you'd put some $$$ on that DC2LV because I've mucked pocket AA with a "Nice hand" when someone hit a set or flush or straight and cracked em.

Assuming the guy in the OP didn't take a long time about it I don't even have a problem with a "how much is it" though in his shoes I'd accept that "I started with $200" as an answer.

Assuming he want to project an image that he'll GII with other than AA and he's going to muck if beat then why would he instacall without knowing the raise size?

And you think that would matter at a 1/2 table?

Based on comments like "I should have known you had it this time", it's at least possible.

Doesn't really matter though. You said you don't think anyone has ever done that and a couple minutes later two people proved you wrong already.

No, it wouldn't matter. And I wouldn't show either.

I opened over a couple limpers from CO with something like K4s, got called and had to show it down - I think I ended up with a pair of 4s that was the best hand or something along those lines. A guy that I see playing quite frequently commented later about what I was opening.

Sure the majority of the people at the table are not paying attention at all. There's no doubt in my mind though that this guy in particular is paying attention and working to build a player profile on me (and other regs he faces). Much as I'm trying to build a player profile on him and how he plays.

This.

He didn't want to confirm he had aces in case they got cracked, so he could muck them silently and make everybody think he made a bad call.

Some of you guys need to see the bigger picture.

I argue it's you who needs to see the bigger picture.

What's Player B's range when he calls? How does Player B's range change if Player A binks a set and Player B mucks?

Not a slow roll, yes douchey but it wouldn't be the 'douchiest thing I say today' at any visit I ever made to the poker room.

How are so many responses saying "not a slowroll"?

This is a blatant slowroll. 2 different clowns have done this to me in the past couple of weeks with my KK vs their AA.
They did it 100% for the slowroll effect. I hate slowrolling and I usually at least let them know what I think about it when they do it, even when I'm not in the hand sometimes.
Unfortunately slowrolling seems to be more common in my area than most places .

I would not let folks know how much it bothers me if I were you. Since slow rolling is not something you can stop, some folks might do it to you just to get you off your game.

At what point do you think the player slowrolled?

We have no information about the showdown and before that, there was no reason to "roll" anything. We can agree it's douchey, but it's kinda hard to roll over your cards too slow before you are even supposed to table them.