Aw nads, thanks Diablo. I didn't catch that.

Yeah it's definitely a case-by-case issue. Sure, if someone shows a single pair of something, I see nothing wrong with the dealer pushing out the paired card on the board. Makes the game go quicker assuming the dealer is on top of things. But in other cases it's not so clear. Everyone should know what they have and be able to see what the tabled hand is. I don't want my dealers saying anything unless the 2nd player asks "what does he have?"

In a hi/lo game it's even trickier. Never push the cards forward there.

"Straight" as I push up the board cards that play as part of the winning player's hand.

Extremely stern warning to the guy's friend. One player to a hand.

Why would you give a warning to someone who told his buddy he screwed up after the hand was over? He did the proper thing by not saying anything until then.

I think timing is everything here. QQ never tabled his hand ... and that's the point that the Dealer (and the rest of the table by rule) can step in and make sure that the pot goes to the best hand.

In the case where a hand is already (hopefully fully) mucked then let the 'rail' birds sing any tune they want. GL

My post can be deleted. I completely missed that that example was after everything was post-showdown. Sorry.

No worries at all. Yeah, in my example of KK vs QQ in the hand where the board ran out a straight, nothing was said by anyone until the pot was pushed, the cards were in the shuffler, and the next hand was starting. QQ never tabled his hand and no one said anything to him (not even the guy sitting next to him that he showed his hand to before mucking his cards)

in many or most cardrooms after the next hand has started the last one is forgotten. so that is the best reason to not let the next hand be dealt.

and even in places where they may go back a hand, not having the game moved forward is best for you if needing a decision.

[QUOTE=Suit;52613255]A dealer should absolutely announce each hand as it is tabled at showdown. First tabled hand gets announced. Any tabled hand after that only gets announced if it is better.

As far as pushing up board cards goes, I want my dealers to push up the cards used on the board unless the player is playing the board. In the case where the player holds a card in his hand matching a card on the board I absolutely want the dealer to still push that card up....QUOTE]

Thank you.
Agree with above 1000%. Anything which speeds up the game and reduces mistakes/misunderstandings is a plus, IMO.
"Letting someone know what he has to beat" by reading hands at showdown is fine; "withholding" this "info" at showdown, or forcing everyone to read all hands for themselves, is just silly, wastes time, and leads to problems.

I hope the dealer made a remark in the sense of "that's the whole point sherlock". Can't stand people who think showdown is still part of the game and that it is ok to induce mistakes from their opponent.

If someone misreads his hand then that's on him but it's scummy to knowingly act in a way that makes it more likely to happen. Commenting on a dealer announcing a hand is totally idiotic. Obviously this does not mean other players that are not in the hand should be saying "hey if you have a heart you have a flush" or stuff like that because that is actively helping a player.

I am so tired of people taking forever at showdown, that I would be happy with the rules being written in a way that makes showdown go faster so that we can move on to the next hand more quickly.

The one who shows first gets the pot.

You could make a rule that says everyone in the hand needs to show their cards at showdown, that way it doesn't matter when you show because you won't get to muck your cards anyways. Basically like an all in during a tournament.

Thing is people want to wait until they have seen the other hand. What happens so often is that a normal person just flips over his hand right away, opponent then grabs his cards, takes a good look and only after determining if he is ahead or behind does he flip over his cards. It makes no sense but it's almost exclusively bad players who are doing it so I kind of leave it. If a reg does these shenanigans I will blast him of course.

it is the dealers job to make sure to at least guide everyone to act in turn. even on the end. so it is easy to tell the person who is first to act to declare their hand if they hesitate.

part of poker is acting in turn even on the river at showdown.

If I see a Showdown Staredown™ starting, I turn to the person who is first to show and say "You can show or muck"

I've tried that and am not certain it actually speeds things up. Players who delay here generally ignore the reminder anyway, and sometimes it causes the out of turn player to wait for them instead of just showing right away.

After a showdown, I'll wait about 3 seconds then starting directing the players in turn. More often than not, the guy with the winning hand will just flip it over if he's confident he is winning. If no one cooperates, then I'll start directing.



As for pushing the board, I see nothing wrong with announcing what a player has once he turns over his cards. Even if it's just one person. However, definitely avoid using terminology like "playing the board" or "has the nuts." Just announce the hand, either using the board, stating it, or both [Sometimes depends on my mood which of those 3 options I'll go with].