Can a player ask the dealer during the hand whether or not a straight beats a flush? Or if the nuts are on the board can a player ask if he could be beaten? After all, these questions concern the rules of the game.

Yes, and the dealer should give the correct answer.



No, the dealer is not allowed to "read the board" for a player.

Dealers are responsible but all participants at the table should encouraged to assist if a dealer fails to identify. A floor person should verify. Simular to a situation where you are facing strings. I would speak up.

No cause it is violating rule 109. Table Talk. Cards speaks only when tabled faced up (68. Declarations & 70. Killing Winning Hand). You can only ask what the board reads (example: suit or coat).

Hey joel, I don't know if you're trying to play devil's advocate or what, but these are some very newbie questions and I'd be surprised if you honestly don't know the answers to them with >1,500 posts under your belt.

My point is that just like these situations are questions about rules, I'm sure everyone would agree that the dealer can't answer these. The dealer similarly shouldn't be allowed to answer the question (before the action is on utg) about whether or not the betting is reopened to utg.

I don't think agree means what you think it does. Has a single person, other than you, posted that a dealer shouldn't answer whether a flush beats a straight?

Similarly, when a player asks what's on the board a dealer should answer by naming the cards on the board, but not the strength of the hand that it makes. I imagine not doing so would just be asking for an ADA complaint, but I'm not a lawyer so maybe not?

Yes. See post #30.

But a flush beats a straight in every casino. In some casinos, the betting is reopened to UTG and in others, it is not. I would think that you should be allowed to ask about a house rule that is not uniform across all casinos.

Is this a troll? You made post #30. Of course you would agree with your own post...

Long time ago in michigan c/r were not allowed .. not sure if 3 bets were affected.

As a reg i am always looking out for my best interests and will speak up during most scenario so i know how its going to go down when I am in a hand.

Most of the dealers will not rank the hands during a hand but i dont see an issue with confirming a rule. Dealer .. is there another card coming out? Same question.

The post numbers on the app are apparently not the same as the ones on the computer. The post I was referring to is post #28 on the computer.

Funny situation, and I understand why you could jump to the conclusion you did, but could you really not have given me the benefit of the doubt and poked around just a little to see what I was talking about? The thread is all of 30 something posts.

Not to belabor or derail too much but I work in computers and would be really interested in hearing how your app counts posts.

I dunno. You seem to make purposely obtuse posts pretty routinely to try to make whatever points you're trying to make. I think it's pretty silly to consider a democratic view of rules interpretations in the "He thinks it too!" manner instead of valuing the opinions of more knowledgeable people.


Of course a dealer should answer a question about hand rankings, just the same as clarifying a house rule. Your grouping those together with telling someone whether or not the betting is reopened isn't a fair grouping. I disagree with you, but I can at least see how some might see telling someone if the betting is reopened is a violation of OPTAH...I CANNOT, however, see anyone thinking that telling a player what the rule is (half raise vs full raise) for reraising would be a violation at all.

At least on my phone 2+2 Forums has two blank posts numbered one and two at the start of every thread, so the OP is #3.

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That's hilarious. Thanks for the info.

Spot-on analysis of joel posts. Finding one person who thinks a wrong thing does not make the thing right. You could use that criterium to validate any and every belief. Lots of people think lots of wrong things.

You've never heard of Optah Win Free?

You asked if there was at least one person here who agreed with me and I gave you an answer. That's all there is to it. But that person must be wrong, because he shares my opinion, and other, way more knowledgeable people here disagree.

Reid - obtuse posts? That's very fair and objective. In every thread I am careful to exercise cold logic and analysis, carefully separating the situation from the poster and trying to remain objective in discussing the situation. Other posters, ones apparently more privileged than me, are allowed to make blanket statements about how ******ed I am without providing any justification whatsoever for their reasoning. I haven't given up in that other thread, I'm just gathering my energy before running through that gauntlet again. Hopefully this time I'll be able to get through and break the barrier of dogmatism I constantly face.

I somehow doubt that "everyone would agree"....
Actually, dealers are not only allowed, but required, to answer questions about rules in most casinos. (Though not allowed to give advice. I.E., "Can I raise" = OK; "Should I raise?" = Not OK.)

What's more likely: that you were picked at random as the oblivious victim of some forum-wide conspiracy or that Reid might be on to something.

yeah I never even knew she played poker

I had read that post, and I re-read it when you corrected yourself. I don't think that person is agreeing with you. They gave nearly the same reply I did. Maybe I have reading comprehension problems and the point sailed over my head. Can you try to explain it to me?

I had a situation last week where I was heads up on the river with the board reading 56789. I had a 10 and shipped it. The other player (obviously inexperienced) asked the dealer if he calls what hand does he have. To my surprise the dealer sheepishly said 'well I guess you have a straight'. In any other circumstances I'd interject but in this particular instance I relented and kindly let him educate the guy. I'm nice that way sometimes.

tl;dr
Polite way would be to point out that SB dose indeed have all the options open, floors ruling is regarding the UTG. no violation to optah if this is pointed out.

Correct, it does this for some reason.