At Commerce players start with 40 dollars.

Well, I had been considering posting this story for years on here. I never posted it as I didn't personally see it; but, having read through this thread (yet again), and considering the source, I will post it. I apologize for the length, but I want to post every detail I can.

First, the player who told me this story was a guy I knew for a couple of years at the time, this goes back to about 2004 or so, we will call my friend "Greg". He was an absolute poker enthusiast, had every book written on poker and played anywhere poker was played. I consider him an honest person and not one to exaggerate. We took a few trips together to different casinos and this one particular home game that was advertised on the internet at the time, which is where this story takes place. Basically he sent the guy an email and he said come on by, BYOB and so we did.

I had been to this game about three times, though not on this particular night. Essentially it was a basement home game for small stakes. It would start with a single table sng (usually would get between 7-10 players) and depending on the night, would become a cash game, usually $20-25 max buy in, 50 cent blinds. He was comfortable inviting strangers to the game as he rented the downstairs and some other rowdies rented upstairs and it was advertised as a casual game, coordination to the game was done via email as I recall. On this particular night the guy upstairs was having a loud party.

Anyways, my friend goes to this game and just as they are setting up a new player comes in with a 12 pack of beer for himself, my friend told me he polished that off in less than three hours. I will refer to this guy as "Joe" as I certainly don't remember his name .

They play a fairly quick sng according to my friend and begin to a cash games for the rest of the night. Joe is already drunk and is losing buy in after buy in. It is clear he is out of his league, a newer player who hasn't had a lot of experience. He tells the guys at the table he's from "out East" (which in Canada usually means Newfoundland or New Brunswick) and he admits he doesn't have a lot of experience. One particular hand stands out as he made a "hero" call of some guys all in on the river, the other player had the nuts and Joe turns over Queen high. There was some silence/confusion at the table, and he tells everyone "I didn't think he had anything".

After this particular hand he stumbles to the washroom and Greg and the others look at each other with some amazement. "What kind of call was that? I can imagine he raises there, but calling, with what? You have nothing also". There is a bit of a laugh and Joe comes out of the washroom. asks if there is any other beer around and the host generously gives him one. He tells them not to worry as he took a taxi there, so ok, np, drink up. Greg told me he thinks this guy may have caught the tail end of the conversation and the laughter going on at the table, but he doesn't know for sure.

The game continues and Joe loses buy in after buy in. Eventually he gets some luck, goes on a but of a heater and has about $100 in front of him. He is joking now, laughing it up a bit also, until one particular hand. Joe has AQ of hearts, other unknown player has 88, I don't remember the action preflop, but the flop is all hearts including an 8. Joe flops the nuts, they get it all in and as fortune would have it the board pairs and Joe is rivered for his stack. At first he thinks he won the pot and then the table explains that the river made his opponent a FH, he stares at the board for some time until he eventually gets it.

He sits in silence looking at the chips go to the other guy after this hand. They ask if he wants to reload and he just shakes his head no. Sits in silence for a few more minutes watching the game, finishes his beer and slurs that he is going to head out. Players shake his hand, he shakes the guy who rivered him and tells him "nh". Guy apologizes for his bad luck.

Joe stumbles up the stairs to the door, a few seconds later he stumbles back down the stairs with a couple of pairs of shoes in his hand and asks the players at the table if any of these shoes are theirs, as he is a bit drunk and can't find his. My friend tells him that one of the pairs are his and the guy who rivered him for his stack tells him those shoes are his. Joe nods, "ok thanks, now I know which are mine". Noone pays much attention as they are in the middle of a hand. About two minutes later they hear the door swing open and as Joe is leaving he yells down the stairs "good game guys, thanks for having me". The players respond in kind.

Over the next hour and a half the players keep talking about Joe and his gameplay. Many jokes are told at his expense. Some amazement at how he played. In 2004, most players still play ABC poker, and this guy was definitely loose, passive, bad.

The night eventually winds down and everyone is collecting their stuff to head home. At the doormat as people are putting their shoes on, Greg hears in a loud voice "what the F__K"!? Everyone rushes to his side wondering what would possibly elicit such a yell.

There is this poor guy holding his shoe in his hand, and what appears to be a fairly fresh and noticeable large volume of human feces in it. Appears Joe defecated inside his shoe before he left for the night.


The host of the game emailed the guy and shared the email with the player who had the unfortunate experience. They never received a response from that address nor heard from him again.

lol wow

Yea as stated earlier commerce 1/2 max buyin is 40$

ty johnny, that story is epic

As for the commerce, I certainly believed you guys, but I had to look it up anyway. 1/2, $40 cap w $3 rake per hand, or 2/3 with 100 cap. I think I'd rather go to Florida and play bingo with my mother.

This is standard in Macau, I've had the dealers flip my 2nd card a few times - they do it as joke with a big smile on their face but nevertheless when the dealer does it themselves periodically, it definitely puts them in a bind from stopping someone else from reaching in and flipping em too. First time was shocked and then I began to understand the muck is not really sacred territory there.

Playing 1-3 NL in Shreveport this weekend at the Horseshoe. I straddle with what turns out to be 43o. A drunk guy calls, and a grinder-ish guy raises to 23 OTB. Small Blind starts asking him, repeatedly, if he's floating. "Are you floating? You floating again? Is this a float? You floating, buddy? Are you floating?" He folds, BB folds, I call (I know), as does drunk guy.
Flop comes 567 rainbow. I check, Drunk Guy bets 75, Grinder calls, I jam for ~300, drunk guy snap calls, Grinder tanks forever but eventually calls. I turn over 43, drunk guy turns over 84 .
Board runs out blanks and grinder guy starts screaming at Drunk Guy ("How could you make that call pre-flop?, etc") and Small Blind ("You influenced the action by asking if I was floating! I wasn't floating!"), drops a few f-bombs, and is finally shut up by the floor threatening to throw him out.
So for my remainder of the time at the table, there was a lot of "floating" going on. "Oh, check to me? I'll float." -- bets $30

Tough beat but good way to put the good player at table on tilt LOL. Might try this next time. "Are you floating?"

I'm about to take two hits of acid and go post up in a 4/8 game. Might have my own weird things in a cardroom moment.

Purpose is simply to have a unique and curious experience.

Its best to microdose when playing poker.

Anyone playing at Aria last night around midnight or 1am? I'm still in disbelief at what I saw go down. This is at the outside corner table near the new burger joint... guy has been putting down cocktail after cocktail, but manages to more or less maintain, until another guy finally manages to goad him into a shot of Fireball. 5 people at the table actually have one.

It was the final straw for him though. Next thing you know his chips are in a big messy pile in front of him, it's his turn in a hand, and he's literally shoveling them into the pot. There is no way whatsoever to discern the chips from the first forward motion from those from the third or fourth. Dealer stops the game, but before any sense can be made, he immediately pulls all of the chips back, but insists that he meant to bet all in. No one heard it...

Next 10-15 minutes are spent waiting for the eye in the sky. They somehow manage to count all those chips and come back and rule his action a bet of $181. Last to act raises all in, drunk calls for his last 100 or 2 with K high. Raiser shows full house.

Drunk is now broke and being booted in no uncertain terms. I honestly thought the manager was going to beat the guy's ass himself. I've honestly never felt so bad for anyone at a poker game, ever, even if he did it to himself. I'm pretty sure I saw him sitting on about $2k an hour or two before this (this is 1/2 BTW). Poor bastard probably won't even remember what happened to it, or why he's banned

Is there an appropriate thread to discuss this yet?

A guy was flossing while playing hands at my table... luckily I wasn't sitting near him but thinking back he was probably still flinging food onto the table.

Shout-out to rude players, thanks for keeping the game unpleasant!

I don't think flossing is that bad

while at the poker table???

My story isn't nearly as funny as most in this thread, but I still thought it was entertaining.

Playing 2/5 at Harrah's Cherokee, there's a young Asian guy with about $3k in chips in front of him. It looked like he was tired and had been there a while. Anyway, a hand gets to the river between him and another young guy, with a possible flush draw completing on the river. It's a significant pot of about $500. The young guy checks, and the Asian guy throws out $250. Young guy tanks and tanks, probably for about 5 minutes. He's asking the Asian guy questions about his hand, and he's just sitting there stoically looking bored. Finally the young guy shoves in the $250, and the Asian guy sighs and says "good call (3 second pause) for me I have the nuts" and flips over the flush.

I thought we might see a beating, but the timing was so good that the entire table just exploded in laughter, including the good sport who lost the hand.

Harrah's, 2010 I think, Friday about 2AM, table is skunk drunk, loud, happy and spewy, I'm rock sober. Dude in seat two hammered out of his mind, but catches every hand and has a stack of about 1000 in front of him. I raise with Kings, he's weaving back and forth in his seat, then literally passes out, pushing his stack over the line as he crashes into the table.

I called, lol.

from a thread in NVG by PUSATFH

Thread was: Finding Chips/Bills/Vouchers on the floor in Casinos

can you imagine that? and OFC those chips went right back in play. 100 pee covered, germ infested, little mini urinal cakes themselves/in their own right

Not funny but weird.

Macau 25/50 game,

I raised with flopped top two pair on a dry board and other guy says call but accidentally tossed in a 5k chip. He'd done this twice before by accident (if you play in Macau you know the 5k is not very distinctive so this happens from time to time) so I didn't think he was angling with a set or something. Floor rules it a binding raise. There is already a few hundred in the pot, including my raise of about 2-3 hundred.

Everyone folded around to me, I told him I wanted the few hundred in the pot but not his 5k. I tell him I have a good hand, want the money in the pot and willing to chop my bet and his accidental raise. I am clear that it's his decision, he needs to tell me whether or not he will agree to this offer - otherwise I'm going to treat this as a real hand and proceed as if he intentionally over raised.

Guy agrees, floor witnesses all of this as it came over to rule on the "call", we agree that I will call, we flip our hands over, take back the bets and let the winner take the pot in the middle and shake hands on this. Floor witnesses this, nods head as if they agree with it. Dealer immediately deals both turn and river despite that we both have another 20k+ in chips. Guy had top pair but hit a better two pair on the river. Dealer immediately sweeps up the call I made and shoves it over to him - he looks puzzled, and pushes it back to me immediately. Floor slams hand down and ships it back to him - now we're both very confused. He tries to ship it back to me and again floor yells at him.

Apparently, despite that the floor had witnessed our negotiation and apparently the casino played along as we flipped our cards and they didn't wait for us to check/bet despite neither being close to be all in, they stated that we couldn't decide to chop only portions and players weren't allowed to pass chips around the table. I sit there, now knowing that the guy is apparently off the hook and under no more than a verbal contract to hand me back the 5k, he plays it cool, doesn't make eye contact with me, etc and so I'm starting to get a little nervous.

He then racks up his chips and I'm beginning to get nervous but then as he gets up asks me if I want to smoke a cigarette and I follow him and he paid me the cash outside the casino - absolutely shocked, totally thought I'd be ****ed over in that one - just thought I'd share this one after all these stories of anglers.

Wow, that sounds like a horrible place to play poker. Two bad rulings in the same hand.

I'm glad this worked out, but I have some questions. I'm not asking these questions to discredit your story like most would do in your spot. I believe this all happened as you say it did, but I am curious about a couple things:

1.) If you're flipping the hands over, why would you expect the dealer not to deal the turn and river immediately? From the sounds of it, you guys decided to treat it like there will be no more betting and that you'd just run it out for the pot in the middle. I don't understand what you having chips behind has to do with anything. Were you planning on making bets and getting calls while your hands are both face up?

2.) I thought you said you took back the bets? Did the dealer reach into your stack and take the chips?

What Reid wrote: Given the agreement and the cards being face up, why would the dealer give somebody a chance to bet? Wasn't the agreement that you weren't going to treat it like a real hand?

The places I play have similar rules about passing chips, and it's done in (obvious) secret under the table. Admittedly there are fewer zeroes involved.

For context,

5k HKD = approx $650

Never seen anyone agree on the flop to just cease action and flip them and run out the pot without anyone being all in - didn't even know this was an option. For what it's worth, both me and the other player involved as well as the rest of the table both assumed the dealer was going along with our discussed agreement to basically cancel out our bets and race for the preflop pot.



Instead of saying call made the mistake of putting in the necessary cash needed to call - wasn't really thinking dealer would do anything other than what we had just agreed upon so just followed my normal action.

Dealer acted really fast swooping our chips into the main pot, to be honest was more paying attention to see his cards to know whether or not the nice, seemingly honest guy I'd been very friendly with for hours but didn't really know had set this up as an angle and fake-agreed with a set out of fear I'd fold my hand had he not "agreed" to a chop. Thus I didn't really react to the dealer's actions so much as he was acting while the guy flipped his cards over.