the MGM in DC has a pretty juicy 1/3 the Borgata and MD Live have pretty good 1/2 the MGM would be my bet for #1

The thread is about best place in the U.S. The whole point of the thread is to compare any poker room in the country to Vegas, and his description of insane action was lol.

thursday afternoon until 6 pm or so.

For years and years and years I keep reading this on these forums, then I begin to worry, and then I get out there and once again see that everything is still great. Vegas is a dream - you routinely see things out there that you almost never see anywhere else.

I will agree that Florida seems to be a remarkably soft region, but there's nothing like Vegas for the sheer number of amazing opportunities.

I've played in Vegas probably 10 times over the last few years at 1,2 or 1,3. The games have always been extremely good with huge stacks routinely finding their way into the pot. The only nitty game I ever encountered was a daytime game at the Red Rock. Last time I played at Planet Hollywood and 4 drunk friends all sat down at a newly opened table and proceeded to dump a couple of grand over the next two hours. I sat with my back to the dancers which was probably a good decision.

Conversely the most nitty games I've found were at the Seminole Hard Rock in Tampa, FL a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if nitty is the right term because it was passive and limpy pre-flop but basically no action post flop.

You could most def make a living @ Winstar. Free drinks will never happen though for what, if I'm being honest, are native american related reasons. Not to mention everyone has to travel to get there, so free drinks would make I35 a deathtrap in both directions. Nevertheless Oklahoma has many great options Downstream, Tulsa HardRock, Winstar, Choctaw in Durant, Riverwind, Grand Casino.. Poker is in good shape here & needless to say there is money to be made.

The thing is, anyone who knows and is smart wouldn't really want to share the information here for obvious reasons.

As someone who lived full-time in Vegas for three years (2010-2012), spent one year with residences in both Vegas and Miami Beach playing 6 months in Vegas and 6 months in South Florida (2013), and has now spent 3 years living full time in Miami/Miami Beach (2014-2016+) while still visiting Vegas twice a year, I can state categorically, that in my experience, SoFla is much softer than Vegas, especially at the 2/5 level. And especially in the winter when the snowbirds come down.

In theory that would mean no winning players ever posted in the various strat forums on this site. In practice we know that's not the case.

I agree with that statement, but I also doubt that more than 20% of people posting in strat forums are winning. There's some horrendous advice in there. Some would say most of mine is

As far as poker in S. Florida goes, its definitely pretty soft when the snowbirds come. In the summer its a hell of a lot tougher.

Yeah, of course not everyone posting in there is a winning player, and yes reading some of the advice sometimes I question just how much of a winning player some of those considered winning players really are.

But point of my statement was more to point out how rarely people actually adhear to what Carnivore was suggesting.

Not true. Florida is terrible. I just moved down here and I can tell you the games are awful. Stay away.

So translation is 'Games down here in FLA are great, I just don't want any of you coming down here and blowing up my spot.'

shhhhh.

News flash. If you are good at poker, you can make a living anywhere. If you arent, you cant.

hey....shhhhhhhh

It is a corollary of what Carnivore is saying that smart people should post misinformation in the strat forums, which might account for the bad information. Mind = blown.

I don't see how this can be true unless you define "good" to exactly mean being able to beat local poker.

Eh...There may be a tiny bit of that here and there, but if you honestly think the majority of bad advice/information written in the strat forums is being done intentionally to mislead those reading it, well I think you're giving those posters way too much credit for their intelligence, their poker know how or both.

I love Vegas poker. PLO is awesome, and the 1/2 and 2/5 games are great -- you just have to select the right tables. Not really that difficult with all the choices. I am a late night / early morning player, though, which does help.

That said, my favorite room so far is Harrah's NOLA for PLO.

You have to play at the same couple of places so you know the players and can determine which table to transfer to. I can more or less identify every nit and donk who plays at Venetian

FL and CA are the softest games. Followed by MD and Vegas

I only visit LV, and when I do I often play during the day and during the evening. While I certainly follow what you are saying, I think after reading through its clear -- its about picking the right spot. I have certainly seen rooms that offer higher level comps for locals and its obvious regs have every seat locked up and no outsider could ever sit at those games anyway. But rooms that offer modest comps or nearly nothing there is always plenty of room for a visitor/tourist to sit and play. There are of course conventions all the time in Vegas but some are larger than others. Knowing the convention schedule and picking rooms closest to the conference of say - neuro surgeons or medical equipment supply expo and sitting in those rooms on those days = gin. I've made my fair share of winning sessions when WVC is in town (veterinarians). Now I could not imagine trying to keep track of all this if I lived there and attempted to be a poker pro -- but as a hobbyist who visits occasionally, its still primarily a plus.

But, that said, part of the issue is a general attitude shift in the LV casino operator's mentality. In this video highlight from a year or so ago, Shane Schleger discusses his thoughts on why LV is headed downhill.



tl;dw - The hospitality industrial complex of Vegas is shifting from a Gambling-centric model to an entertainment and food centric model which is putting a lot of pressure on poker rooms and other gamble-heavy venues.

There are lots of tourists in the games in Vegas. Some of the posts in this thread surprise me.

Agreed, except that it no longer surprises me - I've been reading this same thing here for years.

Every year fees go up, prices go up, and all the doom and gloom on these forums about the horrible poker makes we wonder whether I should make my next 2x/yr trip. And then, of course, I do, and the games are once again super soft.

I just don't get it.

Its simple. Most of the people posting here, just like most of the population are not good at poker. If you are good, the games seem soft.